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posted ago by UnemployedMarx ago by UnemployedMarx +18 / -2

If your wife agrees to say the traditional wedding vows of: "Will you obey him, and serve him, love, honor, and keep him in sickness and in health? And forsaking all others keep yourself only to him, so long as you both shall live?"

If your fiancee agrees to these wedding vows, your marriage will last. If she doesn't agree to those vows, your wedding won't last. It's simple stuff.

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UnemployedMarx [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

That's exactly what it is. The women preoccupied with 50/50 everything such that they interpret obey+serve as slavery/property/demeaning tend to be overly focused on the wrong things IMO. It says right in his vows to love, comfort and honour her... does a man do this to his slaves? People need to open their eyes a little to traditional relationships and pull the blinders off as far as I'm concerned. A lot of what people have been told to interpret the traditional ways is subversion and entirely wrong. Did some men abuse their wives? Yes and men still do today, just like women abuse their husbands too. It didn't mean that was every single relationship.