I can't travel down to AZ right now. If I could I would. Was there any people out there today? Yeah I figured the Officials in MI not supporting the audit or you guys at all really hurt. If the State legislators stand by the results of the audit that should be huge. So after they are held in contempt what happens?
I was only at the MCTEC building for about an hour, they had a large security presence, I didn’t see anyone around besides 2 local news affiliates before I had to attend to other matters with a certain legislature.
And yeah, absolutely NO ONE supported us in MI, nobody, and there’s a few republicans up there. DePerno is still facing the proverbial barrel of a gun or literally dozens of lawyers, the SoS, her goons, legal complaints, list goes on and on. Here, we are backed by the ENTIRE legislature, all 16. I will admit out of the 16 some are more strong than others, but none of them are backing down. Guys like Sonny B. are absolute patriotic pit bulls.
I’ll just say before the Monday deadline hits, I think there’s a higher probability of the entire BoS all resigning than actually facing that, because it’s not a joke or empty threat, and they’re basically all being recalled anyway. If that happens- I have no clue what then occurs, I do know the legislature hold all the power. It’s like a principal of a school saying, “I want all the tests audited from last week, I think there was cheating. Hey, Bill, get the tests for me,” and Bill the janitor going, “Sorry, I’m not getting the tests, I locked them in my broom closet, nobodies getting them!”.
If they really just sit there and say no up to the Monday deadline, the legislature go to the attorney general (who is the only possible get of jail free card for them, literally). Why I am not too worried about Mark Brnovich, who is the AG of AZ, is this type of action, against republicans by himself, a Republican, is not unprecedented. Apparently he himself had a dispute over conflict of interest against a Republican Corporations Commissioner, he filed a lawsuit to remove this person, and they resigned voluntarily. Brnovich also supports the legislatures power, BUT, he is against Trump and an election fraud denier, so as a general assessment of him, I’d say at worst he may not like it, but he has affirmed the legislatures power. I don’t think the Gov. (Ducey) has any ability to get involved, but he’s a never Trumper full on enemy, so there’s that.
But back to what happens. The BoS get charged with a Class 2 Misdemeanor on Monday, or we go back to court yet again, which will tie this up for quite some time, which is why the legislature aren’t considering going back to court as I’m aware- because it’s asking a judge to re-litigate a clear and concise order to the BoS, you don’t get tried for murder, judge gives you life, and you just say “that doesn’t work for me, chief”. You can appeal it, but I don’t believe the BoS can appeal it, again going back to, they don’t have the powers to do any of this.
What happens with the class 2 misdemeanor? They face 10 years in jail. Of course that will not happen, we’re looking at 1 of 3 things occurring, they let the audit happen, they go to jail, they resign. Only possible 4th would be the AG refusing the legislatures request to hold them in contempt, and that I don’t know where it goes from there.
We aren’t leaving AZ though, we’re not stopping. The legislature /
Fann aren’t stopping. Kelli Ward backs us 1000%. We may have a corrupt BoS, Governor, and possibly an AG, but the power is in the hands of the legislature 1 million percent.
Okay I guess my comment didnt post. Anyway, Hopefully they resign. I'm glad the legislature is on your side! Hopefully you guys can get started soon on the audit. I was hoping something could be found before the impeachment trial is over. Trump is still standing by his claims of election fraud and it would be a big plus if AZ was proven to have massive fraud right now. Also someone posted this https://patriots.win/p/12hR2p03GT/wisconsins-agreed-upon-procedure/
Hey I wanted to ask a question its more theory based. Why do you think Trump backed away from the dominion thing at least case wise? Even in his call to the SOS in GA. His lawyer says dominion isn't a part of our case because we couldn't find a way...Trump then cuts her off and says otherwise but says we don't need it. I'm really conflicted because if the election was stolen the way we believe it was. It would be a national security issue, right? It just bugs me that the DOD seemed to not have any evidence or maybe Trump didn't have enough time? Or people loyal to him. He made a lot of changes to the DOD after the election. I always thought it was so he could have access to intelligence from people he trusted. But nothing...do you think its because he never had access to the machines? Might seem random but just want to know what you think...
That Wisconsin stuff is bullshit, not in that it’s factually wrong, everything there did happen, but they just want election officials in Wisconsin to “audit”. They don’t know cyber security and all that. It’s like asking the guy taking your order at McDonald’s to build a Tesla.
And the Trump team that handled everything were flying by the seats of their pants into a mess that could NEVER be fixed in 2-3 months. They were just trying to get things done as fast as possible because they were confident both roads led to a Trump win, and to go after ballots because Dominion was getting involved in machine audits. They just were being advised by too many different people to do too many different things.
And I can tell you nobody has ever truly audited a Dominion machine besides in Antrim Co. via ASOG. DePerno was a damned machine for Bailey, his client, to get that done. It actually wasn’t even for the election, it was for a marijuana referendum being contested, that we got in the door.
Okay that makes sense. I feel like everything thats happened has been a complete crap show. I'm rooting for you guys! The BoS are complete pieces of shit. They want to claim no fraud but don't want to allow the audit. I hate that this is being pushed off until Monday. But if you guys can get started next week for sure that would be awesome. The tick tock is killing me. Trump's impeachment trial is coming up. He's not denying the fraud. So it would be awesome if you guys found something during the trial.
I can't travel down to AZ right now. If I could I would. Was there any people out there today? Yeah I figured the Officials in MI not supporting the audit or you guys at all really hurt. If the State legislators stand by the results of the audit that should be huge. So after they are held in contempt what happens?
I was only at the MCTEC building for about an hour, they had a large security presence, I didn’t see anyone around besides 2 local news affiliates before I had to attend to other matters with a certain legislature.
And yeah, absolutely NO ONE supported us in MI, nobody, and there’s a few republicans up there. DePerno is still facing the proverbial barrel of a gun or literally dozens of lawyers, the SoS, her goons, legal complaints, list goes on and on. Here, we are backed by the ENTIRE legislature, all 16. I will admit out of the 16 some are more strong than others, but none of them are backing down. Guys like Sonny B. are absolute patriotic pit bulls.
I’ll just say before the Monday deadline hits, I think there’s a higher probability of the entire BoS all resigning than actually facing that, because it’s not a joke or empty threat, and they’re basically all being recalled anyway. If that happens- I have no clue what then occurs, I do know the legislature hold all the power. It’s like a principal of a school saying, “I want all the tests audited from last week, I think there was cheating. Hey, Bill, get the tests for me,” and Bill the janitor going, “Sorry, I’m not getting the tests, I locked them in my broom closet, nobodies getting them!”.
If they really just sit there and say no up to the Monday deadline, the legislature go to the attorney general (who is the only possible get of jail free card for them, literally). Why I am not too worried about Mark Brnovich, who is the AG of AZ, is this type of action, against republicans by himself, a Republican, is not unprecedented. Apparently he himself had a dispute over conflict of interest against a Republican Corporations Commissioner, he filed a lawsuit to remove this person, and they resigned voluntarily. Brnovich also supports the legislatures power, BUT, he is against Trump and an election fraud denier, so as a general assessment of him, I’d say at worst he may not like it, but he has affirmed the legislatures power. I don’t think the Gov. (Ducey) has any ability to get involved, but he’s a never Trumper full on enemy, so there’s that.
But back to what happens. The BoS get charged with a Class 2 Misdemeanor on Monday, or we go back to court yet again, which will tie this up for quite some time, which is why the legislature aren’t considering going back to court as I’m aware- because it’s asking a judge to re-litigate a clear and concise order to the BoS, you don’t get tried for murder, judge gives you life, and you just say “that doesn’t work for me, chief”. You can appeal it, but I don’t believe the BoS can appeal it, again going back to, they don’t have the powers to do any of this.
What happens with the class 2 misdemeanor? They face 10 years in jail. Of course that will not happen, we’re looking at 1 of 3 things occurring, they let the audit happen, they go to jail, they resign. Only possible 4th would be the AG refusing the legislatures request to hold them in contempt, and that I don’t know where it goes from there.
We aren’t leaving AZ though, we’re not stopping. The legislature / Fann aren’t stopping. Kelli Ward backs us 1000%. We may have a corrupt BoS, Governor, and possibly an AG, but the power is in the hands of the legislature 1 million percent.
Okay I guess my comment didnt post. Anyway, Hopefully they resign. I'm glad the legislature is on your side! Hopefully you guys can get started soon on the audit. I was hoping something could be found before the impeachment trial is over. Trump is still standing by his claims of election fraud and it would be a big plus if AZ was proven to have massive fraud right now. Also someone posted this https://patriots.win/p/12hR2p03GT/wisconsins-agreed-upon-procedure/
Hey I wanted to ask a question its more theory based. Why do you think Trump backed away from the dominion thing at least case wise? Even in his call to the SOS in GA. His lawyer says dominion isn't a part of our case because we couldn't find a way...Trump then cuts her off and says otherwise but says we don't need it. I'm really conflicted because if the election was stolen the way we believe it was. It would be a national security issue, right? It just bugs me that the DOD seemed to not have any evidence or maybe Trump didn't have enough time? Or people loyal to him. He made a lot of changes to the DOD after the election. I always thought it was so he could have access to intelligence from people he trusted. But nothing...do you think its because he never had access to the machines? Might seem random but just want to know what you think...
That Wisconsin stuff is bullshit, not in that it’s factually wrong, everything there did happen, but they just want election officials in Wisconsin to “audit”. They don’t know cyber security and all that. It’s like asking the guy taking your order at McDonald’s to build a Tesla.
And the Trump team that handled everything were flying by the seats of their pants into a mess that could NEVER be fixed in 2-3 months. They were just trying to get things done as fast as possible because they were confident both roads led to a Trump win, and to go after ballots because Dominion was getting involved in machine audits. They just were being advised by too many different people to do too many different things.
And I can tell you nobody has ever truly audited a Dominion machine besides in Antrim Co. via ASOG. DePerno was a damned machine for Bailey, his client, to get that done. It actually wasn’t even for the election, it was for a marijuana referendum being contested, that we got in the door.
Okay that makes sense. I feel like everything thats happened has been a complete crap show. I'm rooting for you guys! The BoS are complete pieces of shit. They want to claim no fraud but don't want to allow the audit. I hate that this is being pushed off until Monday. But if you guys can get started next week for sure that would be awesome. The tick tock is killing me. Trump's impeachment trial is coming up. He's not denying the fraud. So it would be awesome if you guys found something during the trial.