We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness.--That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed, --That whenever any Form of Government becomes destructive of these ends, it is the Right of the People to alter or to abolish it
i used to not really like to see the secession posts, because i was of the mindset of "why do we have to give up our America to these tyrannical degenerates, we should fight to preserve our country not let them take it over etc." But as things have gone on, i've realized that what I wanted to be united to doesn't exist anymore.
After following dozens of local Democrats on social media for almost five years now, I can state unequivocally that I hold no kinship or bond with these people and I have no interest in uniting with them behind any cause or banner. I can also state unequivocally that they feel the same way about us, and they want us dead.
An important thing to remember, is that sovereign states can still cooperate for a common defense, it happens even now.
This was closer to the way these united states were originally conceived as well.
Once one concedes that a single world government is not necessary, then where does one logically stop at the permissibility of separate states? If Canada and the United States can be separate nations without being denounced as in a state of impermissible ‘anarchy’, why may not the South secede from the United States? New York State from the Union? New York City from the state? Why may not Manhattan secede? Each neighbourhood? Each block? Each house? Each person
Correct, this notion that leaving the union means violent civil war is one of the dumbest mindsets to have. However, public schools have lied about mostly everything else, so why not lie about lincoln and the civil war. People also have this backwards thinking in which if a state seceedes or even region leaves, that somehow they cant work with neighboring states or form defense alliances. Insanity. The country is too big to be ruled by DC. There were 13 colonies when we were created and even after 1803 we still had 1/3 of the country's land not owned by the US yet.
Every history class I ever had that covered the Articles of Confederation all mentioned them briefly and them dismissed them as being "too weak" without any real explanation, and that's always felt like proaganda to me
We USED to have commonalities that were...robust...enough to bring us together. Today, the things that unite us feel like only small distractions from the vast divide the media/elite have wedged between us.
Everything US ever stood for is gone, but a memory. The experiment in Democracy that was our Constitution is powerless, won't be enforced by our government.
While Rs are still allowed to hold a majority in State legislatures, we can continue pounding them; the left certainly is organized and active in making their voice heard. "Election integrity" is something they're interested in working on, only for the future.
I consider it vain to hope that there would ever be a real election again, but it's not a waste to continue relationships with State legislators all over the Country.
It's completely vain to think we could take the entire US now that Bidet is installed as CiT. TX would be difficult to defend from the US military PLUS OWG, but it's worth trying.
Secession is a peaceful act.
When tyranny becomes law, rebellion becomes duty. - Thomas Jefferson
Did you know he was the 3rd heterosexual president?
Dats raysys yo.
i used to not really like to see the secession posts, because i was of the mindset of "why do we have to give up our America to these tyrannical degenerates, we should fight to preserve our country not let them take it over etc." But as things have gone on, i've realized that what I wanted to be united to doesn't exist anymore.
After following dozens of local Democrats on social media for almost five years now, I can state unequivocally that I hold no kinship or bond with these people and I have no interest in uniting with them behind any cause or banner. I can also state unequivocally that they feel the same way about us, and they want us dead.
An important thing to remember, is that sovereign states can still cooperate for a common defense, it happens even now.
This was closer to the way these united states were originally conceived as well.
Correct, this notion that leaving the union means violent civil war is one of the dumbest mindsets to have. However, public schools have lied about mostly everything else, so why not lie about lincoln and the civil war. People also have this backwards thinking in which if a state seceedes or even region leaves, that somehow they cant work with neighboring states or form defense alliances. Insanity. The country is too big to be ruled by DC. There were 13 colonies when we were created and even after 1803 we still had 1/3 of the country's land not owned by the US yet.
The first attempt was known as the “articles of confederation”.
Every history class I ever had that covered the Articles of Confederation all mentioned them briefly and them dismissed them as being "too weak" without any real explanation, and that's always felt like proaganda to me
That's weird, I thought it was "We hold these truths to be self-evident. All men and women are created, by the, you know, you know the thing,”
It is surrender. I will not surrender my country.
Unity and Liberty are incompatible concepts.
Why do you want Washington to control your life?
Why do you want to use Washington to control the lives of others?
We USED to have commonalities that were...robust...enough to bring us together. Today, the things that unite us feel like only small distractions from the vast divide the media/elite have wedged between us.
Your first sentence is only true if you qualify it very strictly. E Pluribus Unum has always been the National motto.
Unity is not a bad thing, in theory.
No I want to neuter Washington.
A short while ago I agreed with you.
Everything US ever stood for is gone, but a memory. The experiment in Democracy that was our Constitution is powerless, won't be enforced by our government.
While Rs are still allowed to hold a majority in State legislatures, we can continue pounding them; the left certainly is organized and active in making their voice heard. "Election integrity" is something they're interested in working on, only for the future.
I consider it vain to hope that there would ever be a real election again, but it's not a waste to continue relationships with State legislators all over the Country.
It's completely vain to think we could take the entire US now that Bidet is installed as CiT. TX would be difficult to defend from the US military PLUS OWG, but it's worth trying.
Would never be. It is war.
Secession is a peaceful act.
They will shoot us for attempting it.
Correction: they may shoot at us for attempting it ;)