This has been brewing for a while but the political stuff was the nail in the coffin for our relationship. It hurts to say it. I love the guy. But I can't be with someone who has zero fight in them and zero patriotism. I mean with as patriotic as I am now I can't believe it lasted this long. Can't wait to get out there and date REAL manly men lol.
Sorry for this post. I'm just a little sad and needed to vent.
Someone doesn't know how unfair the system is to men, then attacks men for not following the system's rules. Dumb
**DING, western women (most) are half of the reason we're in this jam right now. All emotion, no facts or analytics. Voting for libtards and hate of white men. The juice isn't worth the squeeze. They slut it up for 10 yrs and then want the best guy they can find while complaining and not bringing the goods to the table themselves. Again, many not all women. There's shit men out there too,
The difference is, shit men were scolded by society into oblivion. That’s why they’re shit.
Women were shit simply because they chose to be, and did so with the full backing of modern society.
Fuck that, be accountable and hold your fellow man accountable. When men stop putting up with shitty women and demand more of themselves, they'll get what they want.
The rising tide lifts all ships and everyone needs to focus on the one thing they can control; themselves.
It takes 2 to make a relationship work, and the idealistic mentality that you have is in part to blame for the dating mess we're currently in. Hold your fellow man accountable, sure. But also hold your fellow female accountable too, that's my point. Men are already held accountable; women are NOT. Plus, we also have to factor in that weak men and simps will always exist. By saying for men to control themselves, you're ironically pushing for something that cannot be controlled—other people. If you're gonna push for something like that, then you might as well push for it on both genders (side note: there's only 2 genders). Only blaming men will only get us so far. You'll need to change the culture as well so that women follow suit.
Someone doesn't know that divorce shouldn't even be an option and they are living in an artificial construct that is easily ignored by being principled and surrounding yourself with other principled people.
EDIT:
The destruction of the family is Satan's goal. It's the Communist's goal.
-Matthew 19:6
For everyone who would mock religion or God, this is the fruit.
Yeah, my ex-wife said the exact same thing before she took half my stuff and utterly destroyed my life, but okay.
Sad I only have one upvote to give you.
hear hear
Marriage is a religious ceremony and the government should just stay out of it.
Why we still force a default binding contract is beyond me. Outdated and unneeded. We should empower women and break the chains of this contract enforced by the evil patriarchy.
Fucking finally some good common sense!
The government wasn’t in your baptism, and it wasn’t in my bar mitzvah. It shouldn’t be in our marriages.
Because it’s in most cases a massive financial lift to be two people earning together. If you have a good spouse you can be very successful.
Holy Matrimony is a religious ceremony. Marriage is just a joining of two things. Not saying I disagree with the sentiment, but facts are facts. Religious bindings before God had gone out the window long ago. People married before God, yet FOR entitlement and country alliances. Royal arranged marriages for instance. It's a losing battle if you don't have moral servitude towards God.
Because children's rights need to be secured. Empowering women or men at the expensive of security for children is bad for society.
No, it's way more than a ceremony, religious or secular. It is the fundamental social unit which see s the birth and reading of kids. The state has of course screwed things up, but the future of the nation requires men and women bonding and that involves way more than one afternoon at city hall or a beach or church. And yes, nowadays it has to deal with property and progeny if the marriage fails.
I appreciate it man
How did she live her life before she said those things? What was her family like? What were her friends like?
Absolutely!! Every guy thinking about getting married needs to get acquainted with Divorce, Inc before they throw themselves into the trap.
Yeah, buddy, thought I married a Christian conservative chick only to find out she was not who I thought she was, cheated, took thousands of dollars from me, and I only get to see my kids half the time now. Don’t criticize a guy for not wanting to sign up to be screwed over by a woman and the courts.
I'm sorry to hear that man. Sucks when kids are in the mix, and courts always side with the mother. Talk about sexism!
Did you have sex before marriage?
I didnt have sex after marriage, so there's always that to contend with.
Medical issue, I'm not happy with it, but happy with her. 10 years now
I think this is one of the biggest issues we have to fix as men for the next generation.
BASED!
More people know your right. I'm glad you ssid this
You can never marry if that’s your choice but you have to shit or get off the pot.
I'm not talking about me, we couldn't be happier, we both got lucky early.
But many friends have had their lives destroyed by women that watch the TV and think it's real life and go to destroy their own life and those of their men
I have several friends that are in long term loving relationships, shared home ownership, planning their retirement together. Some of them have kids.
They haven't got married. They don't need an aritficial contrived contract to tell them they love each other.
This. Marriage doesn't actually mean shit. From the man's perspective it's literally everything to lose and nothing to gain. Worst deal in the history of deals, possibly ever.
Why not shit until she gets off the pot?
System is definitely skewed to favor women, but get a fucking prenup and then sack up and commit. If she refuses, then she isn't willing to commit either.
Prenups are written on toilet paper. They often times have zero standing. Search the interwebs and you will see.
Not sure if that works anymore tbh. Not talking about myself anyway.
If you want to marry a decent female get a European female, Americans are to poisoned
They don't. A guys only real smart play anymore is to marry a women who makes a good income. She will have skin in the game to make things work. If they don't she makes good money so she won't take you to the cleaners.
Women will never ever marry men that make less than them. It just doesn’t happen. That’s extremely rare. The best play is to not get married at all. Get her a ring, call her your wife maybe, but do not sign those God-forsaken papers.
Every European except Eastern Europeans is retarded.
Have you been to europe?
I am a guy, and the it is all stacked hugely in our favor. Women that want families have a pretty small window to make that happen, all the while having to deal with man-boys that just want to fuck them and not marry them, and before they know it, it's too late. One of her great life goals flushed down the toilet because she fell in love with the wrong guy.
Yeah get married to the wrong woman and watch everything you value get destroyed. I've seen it enough times.
You sound like a white knight with little to no experience with women. You sure yo have the wrong forum? Guess what, if a woman starts dating at 18 she has plenty of time to figure out who the smart marriage material guys are. Unless she's dumb enough to date the same guy for 17+ years. The women who find out it's too late are generally leftist libtards who ride the caulk carousel for a good decade and a half and then try and find a quality guy. The problem is that the quality guys are taken and the ones left know they're ho's and trash.
You sound like these very women. Making idiotic excuses.
Lol. Caulk carousel.
If she’s gonna ride it may as well be yours
Difference is she isn't on the hook to lose everything she owns.
On the flip side, men have to deal with women wanting a family in the small window they have available, whether the man wants it or not. If she thinks he can pay, she'll have the child.
Then there are the men that want a family, find a woman that wants a family, have a family then.. she drops him. No more access to the kids, but fuck yes he's going to have to pay for them.
Sure, there are also the men that pump & dump. There are also laws requiring them to pay for the children they've created. Good luck finding the laws against paternity fraud, let alone a DA willing to prosecute it.
That is a peril, and you need to be mindful of that. My advice would be to only date women who don't want to have kids if you are anti-family. Leave those who do to find guys that will give them that family. Keep her trapped with you, she will either trap you back with an unwanted child that will likely drive you apart, or, as I pointed out originally, you will deprive her of something deeply important to her, as once she is over 30, that window is basically shut.
What woman today has a life goal of becoming a mother and house wife? NONE.
Why do you think millions of babies are killed every year?
If none of them have that goal, then why do millions of them get married and have kids every year? I would say of the women I know, most want that. But that is all beside the point. My statement was directed towards men, not women. If you are with a woman in her 20s and you know she wants a family and you don't, then let her go so she can find someone who can give her what she wants before its too late for her. To not do it is just cruel.
You should also spend time thinking about what you really want from life, and where you see yourself in five, ten, twenty years. Are you planning to be that 50 year old guy in the nightclub chasing 20-year old tail, or do you see yourself with a family of your own? What about when you are 70?