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posted ago by JeanGrey ago by JeanGrey +3309 / -2

This has been brewing for a while but the political stuff was the nail in the coffin for our relationship. It hurts to say it. I love the guy. But I can't be with someone who has zero fight in them and zero patriotism. I mean with as patriotic as I am now I can't believe it lasted this long. Can't wait to get out there and date REAL manly men lol.

Sorry for this post. I'm just a little sad and needed to vent.

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Heavy_Metal_Patriot 7 points ago +7 / -0

Absolutely!! Every guy thinking about getting married needs to get acquainted with Divorce, Inc before they throw themselves into the trap.

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I_Used_to_be_me 2 points ago +2 / -0

How does one protect themselves from this pre-marriage (other than never getting married)?

Fwiw, I've got some experience and background knowledge with all of this, just from my parents' divorce when I was around 14, and my uncle having once being a family court judge. I know both ends (an "easy," divorce and a hard divorce, from both of these examples). My parents were as easy and cordial as it got. Still burnt my dad financially, since my mom was a housewife. So she got to stay in the house, he moved to a tiny apartment. She owns half the house now, etc. But everything was split pretty fairly, all agreed upon by my parents beforehand, no custody battles over the kids (just me really since my brother was already 18), it was over really quick, and my parents, almost 20 years later, are still friends.

My fiancee's parents was kind of the opposite from what she's told me and pretty rough on her and her siblings. Still, I think both of our experiences made us both a lot more careful, and changed our attitudes about marriage. I think we're less likely to get divorced because of that, but that doesn't mean we're immune... things change. But we've also taken things slow, been together 7 years or so now, engaged for over 2, etc, so we both feel pretty comfortable with our decision to get married... but... yea, the thought of divorce still terrifies me. Even with us both making exactly the same amount riight now, I know that I'd still be the one to get shafted if it were ever to come to divorce. Not sure why we ever had to bring the government into marriage, makes no fucking sense.

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Angerisagift 0 points ago +1 / -1

When mom and dad split up it's the kids who usually suffer most. And while we like to pretend it's so unfair to men, if not for disincentives to divorce we might have even more irresponsibility and the state providing a shifty substitute for a dad still at least kicking in for his own kids. Look at Steve Jobs slandering the mother of his first child and refusing support and involvement, took court ordered paternity test to start to get that guy to step up.

And in most cases the kids don't want to be put in the spot of picking a parent so we flawed as family court is it does at least provide some structure. And in general women are more nurturing and patient with daily childcare duties.

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zedrexvsyrex 1 point ago +1 / -0

Sorry bro but this is so extremely flawed, you have no idea. Stories about boxers and fighters getting their champion title belts taken away from them make me want to hurl. That’s not fair. No matter how you spin it, that is not fair. Child support is raised exponentially to screw the man far more than the woman. Why should a man be paying $7,000 a month for 1 child when said child doesn’t even cost HALF of that?

I’ll tell you why—it’s because these laws are gynocentric bullshit.

Also, women are NOT more nurturing and patient with childcare duties, that’s another bullshit societal trope that is completely false. Women commit filicide more often than men do. That alone destroys the wOmYn aRe mOrE nUrTuRiNg narrative.