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iamherefortheluls 10 points ago +10 / -0

at what point do we just say 'the West' deserves it for being so pathetic and weak willed?

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PurestEvil 8 points ago +9 / -1

Yeah, "the West" is not one entity. Neither of us here deserve what is happening. And the greatest failure of the West is to maintain the values that are inherently good.

Fighting the government is always an uphill battle, so over time we all continue to lose ground.

Oh and don't even think China is fine either - they fuck their own people too. It's still a totalitarian dictatorship and pretty close to a life in hell as a slave.