OP is right. Third party would be huge and there wouldn’t be much left of either the R or the D. Everyone would join the center because most human beings are in the center. Notice I say human beings. Not everything that looks like one is one.
AGREE. WE FOR SURE CANNOT LET THE GOP CONTINUE TO USE THE TRUMP NAME TO FUND RAISE. THIS IS DECEPTION ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. IF WE REBRAND OURSELVES AS A NEW TRUMP PARTY, IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO TRICK TRUMP SUPPORTERS INTO GIVING THEM MONEY.
The GOP does not represent the MAGA movement or patriot values. The GOP has shown us their colors by throwing Trump and the people under the bus to protect their own hides and lobbyist dollars.
Do not buy into the Ross Perot third party dilution argument. The people are disgusted and disenchanted with the weak will of the GOP that will not carry the torch to protect the people. There are a few that stand up, but what does the GOP ever do except for make noise? All the GOP has done over the last 4 years is impede Trump. The GOP allowed the election to be stolen.
The people did not come out en masse to vote for the GOP. The people voted for patriotism, nationalism, and Trump's America first message. We cannot forgive or forget that the GOP did not stand up for the American people when we needed it most. As such, they are the enemy of the people.
The reason why the independent parties cannot gain traction is because they back liberal fruitcakes that do not represent America or what Americans want. Americans want nationalism and America first. Most Americans, excluding liberals, want this including Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
I would rather lose a few elections as a member of the Patriot Party than continue to be trick fuk'd by the GOP that sells us all down the river. Every. Single. Time.
The Grand Ole' Party is not an America First party. They've shown that every day for the last 30 years. This is now a generational fight, which, as much as I dislike it, will required a true America First party to rise, and several voting cycles of consolidation before we're a majority. The GOP isn't going to defend the sovereignty of this country.
The "America First Party". Because if you ain't America First, you're America Last.
Perhaps. If GOP Rinos lose enough votes, maybe they'll openly commit to Dems. This leaves the GOP ripe for picking and True Patriots can sweep in and take it. Several Rinos are leaving.
Agree. Some of the people here will never learn. If we had done this 10 years ago when the Tea Party first surfaced, it would have already become a force to be reckoned with. We would have "lost" a few elections at first, but as we see now that doesn't really matter. Instead, they want to keep doing the same exact thing they've been doing and then scratch their heads why we have an utterly treasonous GOP.
Many people think they are smarter than Trump, it’s just so sad. I agree with you kaisgrammy, and we all need to listen to TRUMP. He said NO THIRD PARTY.
NOT NECESSARILY. THIS WAS HIS ORIGINAL STANCE, BUT IT IS NOW APPARENT THAT THE GOP IS CORRUPT BEYOND REPAIR. NEED TO SKIM THE PATRIOTS THAT REMAIN IN THE GOP INTO THE PARTY LED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP. THEN REBRAND TO UNDERSCORE THAT THE PARTY OF TRUMP IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH THE HOLLOW SHELL OF THE FORMER GOP. THEY ARE LESS THAN NOTHING WITHOUT TRUMP. WITHOUT HIM THEY WILL QUICKLY DISAPPEAR.
As I recall, Trump considered a third party, but now, currently does not want 3rd party. If he changes his mind again , please LMK! I’m sure the whole .win community would like to know. but for now, no 3rd party per TRUMP’s wishes. Thank you.
SINCE WHEN HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP HIRED YOU AS HIS OFFICIAL SPOKESMODEL? WHILE HE MAY HAVE FELT DIFFERENTLY IN THE PAST, THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED WITH THE EVENTS OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HE IS FIRMLY IN FAVOR OF A THIRD PARTY. HE KNOWS THAT ONCE THE DECENT PEOPLE MOVE FROM THE OTHER TWO PARTIES INTO THE TRUMP PARTY, THERE WILL EFFECTIVELY BE ONLY ONE PARTY LEFT. THE OTHER TWO WILL BE MOSTLY EMPTY SHELLS.
I wish those advocating for starting a third party would realize that a "party" is not a physical thing, it is a bunch of PEOPLE. Instead of wanting to join a third party (and do what; vote every 4 years?), GET INVOLVED and fix the one that already exists!
"Third party" also conveniently overlooks the fact that there are MORE than 3 parties, and that none of the other parties has ever amounted to anything. The way the system is set up, they never will!
The D and R parties were designed to provide the illusion of opposition, and the only way to effect meaningful change for PATRIOTS to REPLACE the RINOs.
THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN UNLESS WE THE PEOPLE DO IT!
Get involved in the Republican party and change it from the inside by bringing in more like minded people and vetting better candidates. I've done it. A third party will ensure Dems stay in power forever.
Divides the vote.
Making it harder for dominion to cheat.
Silent majority could just win with a different party.
Or we could just keep doing the same thing and wonder why its not working.
What more do you need to see that the rnc is not representing you maybe if they just come out and say fuck you assholes and thank you for your vote.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE GOP, MINUS RINOS. THEY ARE NOTHING WITHOUT HIM. THEY ARE IN DENIAL BUT THE TRUTH WILL SOON SMACK THEM RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES. AGREE THAT PARTY SHOULD BE REBRANDED TO DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THE SOON TO BE HOLLOW SHELL OF THE FORMER GOP.
We all are now RINO. Stop funding the Republican Party. Send your money and support to MAGA candidates directly. They'll start listening when the money leaves the party.
I agree. People saying, "a 3rd pArTy WiLL bE liKe dA BuLL mOoSe fAiL!" aren't realizing the mold has seriously been broken. Just because another party hasn't recently been successful, doesn't mean it's impossible. Besides, the show is rigged, we either try or die.
No, we need to stay united. We can take over the GOP from within. If Trump starts a new party then fine, we all move there and destroy the GOP from outside. But until then, we need to primary the RINOs out.
Some of y'all don't get it, so I'm gonna explain it.
Sure it'll divide the vote. It'll also get eyes on the problem. If a GOP senator loses their seat to a 3rd party, even just one, it'll scare them.
If we get more than one, It might even force the Dems to run Defense for the GOP.
If a Dem loses their seat to a 3rd party, imagine the blowback.
It's not about winning 2022, or 2024. It's about setting a stage for a better tomorrow.
The GOP is dead. It's time to bury them in their cowardice.
Matt Gaetz and MTG are like panicked CPR on a dead man.
It won't "divide the vote" horse shit.
If you vote with your brain you won't have a political party thinking for you.
Political parties are COMPLETELY USELESS.
All they do is make people not use their own brain.
Why do we need them dividing Americans against themselves?
NOBODY WANTS CIVIL WAR. The political party uniparty divides us against ourselves and PUSHES CIVIL WAR FROM ALL SPECTRUMS
tldr; think for yourself.
edit: and vote with your wallet
OP is right. Third party would be huge and there wouldn’t be much left of either the R or the D. Everyone would join the center because most human beings are in the center. Notice I say human beings. Not everything that looks like one is one.
ONLY if the media is stopped. If they’re allowed to openly spew propaganda they will slander the party to normies endlessly
AGREE. WE FOR SURE CANNOT LET THE GOP CONTINUE TO USE THE TRUMP NAME TO FUND RAISE. THIS IS DECEPTION ON SO MANY DIFFERENT LEVELS. IF WE REBRAND OURSELVES AS A NEW TRUMP PARTY, IT WILL BE ILLEGAL FOR THEM TO TRICK TRUMP SUPPORTERS INTO GIVING THEM MONEY.
The GOP does not represent the MAGA movement or patriot values. The GOP has shown us their colors by throwing Trump and the people under the bus to protect their own hides and lobbyist dollars.
Do not buy into the Ross Perot third party dilution argument. The people are disgusted and disenchanted with the weak will of the GOP that will not carry the torch to protect the people. There are a few that stand up, but what does the GOP ever do except for make noise? All the GOP has done over the last 4 years is impede Trump. The GOP allowed the election to be stolen.
The people did not come out en masse to vote for the GOP. The people voted for patriotism, nationalism, and Trump's America first message. We cannot forgive or forget that the GOP did not stand up for the American people when we needed it most. As such, they are the enemy of the people.
The reason why the independent parties cannot gain traction is because they back liberal fruitcakes that do not represent America or what Americans want. Americans want nationalism and America first. Most Americans, excluding liberals, want this including Democrats, Republicans, and Independents.
I would rather lose a few elections as a member of the Patriot Party than continue to be trick fuk'd by the GOP that sells us all down the river. Every. Single. Time.
The Grand Ole' Party is not an America First party. They've shown that every day for the last 30 years. This is now a generational fight, which, as much as I dislike it, will required a true America First party to rise, and several voting cycles of consolidation before we're a majority. The GOP isn't going to defend the sovereignty of this country.
The "America First Party". Because if you ain't America First, you're America Last.
We tried the tea party, the contract with america, etc etc
The republican party is dead. I'd sooner vote for a demonrat than another republican
3 parties just divides up the vote
Ross ????
We need to eradicate the poeple and the systems they put into place. ONLY SOLUTION.
lol muh divide the vote. Where has unity got us? Literally EVERY SINGLE INSTITUTION in the country is controlled by the left.
EXACTLY. People that say no 3rd party act like using the GOP has done a fucking thing for us the past few decades.
There is only 1 party.
Perhaps. If GOP Rinos lose enough votes, maybe they'll openly commit to Dems. This leaves the GOP ripe for picking and True Patriots can sweep in and take it. Several Rinos are leaving.
I am with you Subaru, and I am also with TRUMP. Trump said it himself, NO 3rd party! WE MUST LISTEN TO TRUMP!
The key is to HIJACK the Republican Party with MAGA candidates, and then fuck ‘em later. Eyes on the prize: listen to TRUMP.
Agree. Some of the people here will never learn. If we had done this 10 years ago when the Tea Party first surfaced, it would have already become a force to be reckoned with. We would have "lost" a few elections at first, but as we see now that doesn't really matter. Instead, they want to keep doing the same exact thing they've been doing and then scratch their heads why we have an utterly treasonous GOP.
Those 3rd parties were intended to calm people and were filled with loonies
They have a guy that wants to give everyone a pony that will work as a work program
Count me in
Sorry. Do not agree with this at all. Not even a little bit.
Many people think they are smarter than Trump, it’s just so sad. I agree with you kaisgrammy, and we all need to listen to TRUMP. He said NO THIRD PARTY.
I'm for 3rd party but see a problem getting quality Patriots willing to run. Don't see Trump going in on it till after 2022. Hope I'm wrong
Good luck. The system is rigged against third parties. Just getting on the ballot is gonna take more fighting then anything else.
Agreed , TRUMP HAS DISAVOWED A THIRD PARTY. Listen to Trump!
NOT NECESSARILY. THIS WAS HIS ORIGINAL STANCE, BUT IT IS NOW APPARENT THAT THE GOP IS CORRUPT BEYOND REPAIR. NEED TO SKIM THE PATRIOTS THAT REMAIN IN THE GOP INTO THE PARTY LED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP. THEN REBRAND TO UNDERSCORE THAT THE PARTY OF TRUMP IS NO LONGER AFFILIATED WITH THE HOLLOW SHELL OF THE FORMER GOP. THEY ARE LESS THAN NOTHING WITHOUT TRUMP. WITHOUT HIM THEY WILL QUICKLY DISAPPEAR.
As I recall, Trump considered a third party, but now, currently does not want 3rd party. If he changes his mind again , please LMK! I’m sure the whole .win community would like to know. but for now, no 3rd party per TRUMP’s wishes. Thank you.
SINCE WHEN HAS PRESIDENT TRUMP HIRED YOU AS HIS OFFICIAL SPOKESMODEL? WHILE HE MAY HAVE FELT DIFFERENTLY IN THE PAST, THE CIRCUMSTANCES HAVE CHANGED WITH THE EVENTS OF THE LAST FEW MONTHS. I KNOW FOR A FACT THAT HE IS FIRMLY IN FAVOR OF A THIRD PARTY. HE KNOWS THAT ONCE THE DECENT PEOPLE MOVE FROM THE OTHER TWO PARTIES INTO THE TRUMP PARTY, THERE WILL EFFECTIVELY BE ONLY ONE PARTY LEFT. THE OTHER TWO WILL BE MOSTLY EMPTY SHELLS.
Stop with the caps. Read the latest news. As soon as Trump decides to go third party, I will be right behind him.
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=trump+third+party+patriot
I would like to see the MAGA Politicians label themselves as Patriots but stay in the Republican Party until we vote in 100% Patriots.
YES!!! This is exactly Trump plan, hijack the Republican Party with MAGA candidates.
This ...
I wish those advocating for starting a third party would realize that a "party" is not a physical thing, it is a bunch of PEOPLE. Instead of wanting to join a third party (and do what; vote every 4 years?), GET INVOLVED and fix the one that already exists!
"Third party" also conveniently overlooks the fact that there are MORE than 3 parties, and that none of the other parties has ever amounted to anything. The way the system is set up, they never will!
The D and R parties were designed to provide the illusion of opposition, and the only way to effect meaningful change for PATRIOTS to REPLACE the RINOs.
THAT AIN'T GONNA HAPPEN UNLESS WE THE PEOPLE DO IT!
Fix the PROBLEM, not the BLAME
There's only one party right now. Trump came in and they had to rig an election to get the power back on the hands of that one singular party.
We need honest elections.
Get involved in the Republican party and change it from the inside by bringing in more like minded people and vetting better candidates. I've done it. A third party will ensure Dems stay in power forever.
Lol, get involved in the Dems party, problem solved.
I like the sentiment. But I don't think it would work. We'd just split our vote and Dems would run all over us.
Patriots need to continue takeover of the GOP. Dems have abandoned the working class. We also need to keep pushing the WalkAway movement.
Dems already walk over us, even with the GOP in power
Those strongly worded letters don't really do much
This ^^^^... I've been unaffiliated since 2003... never looked back. Its the only answer. The 2 party system has run it's course.
I’m staying R to primary out the RINO’s. Third party will just funnel off the votes and we will lose.
Divides the vote. Making it harder for dominion to cheat. Silent majority could just win with a different party. Or we could just keep doing the same thing and wonder why its not working. What more do you need to see that the rnc is not representing you maybe if they just come out and say fuck you assholes and thank you for your vote.
Why not both?
Start creating a 3rd party and continue our ongoing efforts to reclaim the GOP.
PRESIDENT TRUMP IS THE GOP, MINUS RINOS. THEY ARE NOTHING WITHOUT HIM. THEY ARE IN DENIAL BUT THE TRUTH WILL SOON SMACK THEM RIGHT BETWEEN THE EYES. AGREE THAT PARTY SHOULD BE REBRANDED TO DISTANCE OURSELVES FROM THE SOON TO BE HOLLOW SHELL OF THE FORMER GOP.
We all are now RINO. Stop funding the Republican Party. Send your money and support to MAGA candidates directly. They'll start listening when the money leaves the party.
I'll never vote for GOP again.
Any R that didn't back Trump and cucked will feel the wraith.
Fuckem all split the vote and tank the GOP
I agree. People saying, "a 3rd pArTy WiLL bE liKe dA BuLL mOoSe fAiL!" aren't realizing the mold has seriously been broken. Just because another party hasn't recently been successful, doesn't mean it's impossible. Besides, the show is rigged, we either try or die.
I joined the Republican party.....I'm doing my part ARE YOU!
I left the RINO Party. I've done my part for four decades. And look where we are...sEcReT vOtEs.
It's long passed time to move on to bigger and better.
No, we need to stay united. We can take over the GOP from within. If Trump starts a new party then fine, we all move there and destroy the GOP from outside. But until then, we need to primary the RINOs out.
YES!!
The uniparty would love nothing more than for a third party to soak up patriot votes.
As nice as that sounds. The system in the u.s is a 2party system