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ShadowyMrBlank -3 points ago +3 / -6

Voting doesn't matter. That needs to repeated over and over and over. Voting does not matter on any level from national to local. None. It is all rigged. Candidates are selected, not elected. Anyone who thinks that we can work within the system through voting is an absolute fool.

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theglynn 7 points ago +7 / -0

Get to work and find out how to get rid of those machines at the state level.

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Awakened 6 points ago +6 / -0

This mutherfucker gets it. There are still many people here yapping about getting ‘better’ machines. There is no such thing.

Remember Pedes, you don’t need machines for a free and fair election, but you do need them for massive coordinated voter fraud.

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theglynn 1 point ago +1 / -0

Oh come on....we only need tabulators, no internet access,, chain of custody on ballots. May be more to list but watching a program move votes from one candidate to the other and assigning needed votes to those who have not voted according to need, fractional voting, etc. is NOT honoring the voter.

Yes he does get it.

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Awakened 4 points ago +4 / -0

No fucking computers. If you mean the old fashioned mechanical tabulators that accountants use to use, then that’s a conversation. But nothing electronic. So easy to sneak a full PC inside since the electronics can be smaller than your pinky nail and use the display to feed the fraud.

The only internet access should be for the webcams watching down on the counters so you can follow along as they count. These videos should be stored for no less than a thousand years. Any attempt at interfering with the feed or deleting the videos should be treated as treason.

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theglynn 1 point ago +1 / -0

Honoring one vote per person that is correctly tabulated to the candidates is a basic requirement. You cannot ignore that they have figured put how to steal a national election, which is a whole new level. It has to be addressed at every turn, as a necessary quality control measure. It cannot be ignored.

People bring various skills to the table

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Knight1_of_Sunset 2 points ago +4 / -2

So what's the plan then? Raise our arms in surrender and prepare for ass rape?

No one says that this will be easy. If you're going to quit like that, then get out. Black pilling demoralized faggots like you will be the death of all of us.

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ShadowyMrBlank 6 points ago +6 / -0

There are two things we can do. Either a bunch of states become sanctuary states that do not recognize the federal government anymore, given that it's illegitimate, or we go straight secession.

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Awakened 5 points ago +5 / -0

I honestly don’t know his point, but accepting where we are is the only hope in making real change. The definition of insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting change. That’s what a lot of us have been saying about voting for decades.

Once we all accept that the game is rigged and we want better for our children then we can organize around voter integrity. If enough of us would have known this at the last election then a lot more would have shown up at the dirty precincts and wouldn’t have backed down when they told us to leave or when they tried pushing us back to where we couldn’t see.

That may be the first thing. Wouldn’t even require guns.

There are other things that don’t involve shooting people, but we’ve got to accept our current position and be honest if we want real change.

Obviously, like he pointed out, repeating the past will not fix a good goddamn thing.