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alabasterCrown 0 points ago +1 / -1

dude go fuck yourself. do you know ANYTHING about what happened on saeweol? the cult leader w/ ties to the shipping company? how park geun hye was getting plastic surgery instead of doing her job? how the captain of the boat FLED?

she OF COURSE had no role to play w/ ordering a rescue team. the principal fault player is the shipping company and the captain. BUT SHE MADE NO APPEARANCES OR SUPPORTING STATMENTS FOR NEARLY A DAY DURING A NATIONAL TRAGEDY.

what if Bush was busy getting a cosmetic procedure and couldn't be arsed to make a statement on 9/11?

yeah.

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sacrebleu 1 point ago +2 / -1

It's been a long time, so I have forgotten the details, but I think the accident was the result of an accumulation of small faults from a lot of people and bad luck. You know how most people don't follow safety rules and other regulations. Most people are like that, and that is why accidents keep happening, even after Moon became the president. Most people are not monsters but they are lazy and their small everyday faults accumulate, and on some unlucky day, they create a big disaster. But oh no, that kind of explanation is not satisfactory for the mass. The mass needs a scapegoat; a monster to blame the accident for.

So, you tell me to go fuck myself, because I said she was not to be blamed for the accident, but you think my statement is wrong because it took about a day to announce a public statement? Again, I forgot the details, but when it first happened, the mainstream media did not say it was a big accident. Maybe a few tens of casualties, but no one knew that 300 people were dying. So, maybe it took sometime for the administration to judge how grave the situation was and decide what to say. I don't think it was comparable to 911, which was an attack from a foreign country and that people saw large buildings collapsing and people were falling from buildings on a live television. The cruise ship case was, although there were unusually many casualties, an accident that have been happening from time to time, not a terror. Maybe Trump would have used Twitter to say something about such a thing in real time, but not all presidents are like that, and I don't think it is that important or makes difference for the president to say something about an accident within the same day.

For the plastic surgery thing, I have never heard of, so I cannot comment on that. She was taking a surgery on the same day or on the day after the accident? Did her surgery begin after she heard of the accident?

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alabasterCrown 1 point ago +1 / -0

https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2021/01/113_220142.html

she was doing it the day of it happening. She's not responsible for it happening, i am reiterating that, and you're misunderstanding me, like a lefty. look into this before you spout off.

let me be clear: fuck yourself for saying they are "literally democrats" while you are trying to compare them to leftists and Democrats in the USA. you cannot. they are different. Moon's party is 더불어민주당 and just looking at the 민주당 or "democratic" moniker is just missing the point entirely.

i'm not gonna bother with your defense of Park not saying shit,because again, missing the point. as a president, she needs to at least appear responsible and reactive. But again, in Korea, we have a different view of responsibility than Americans. the point, is not to differentiate between accidents and terror. stop leftying it up. the point is our leaders need to be able to be responsive when tragedies happen. very few people consider her to be responsible, so watch what you say about us needing a scapegoat. we don't need one; we know what the story is: "result of an accumulation of small faults" agreed- one of those faults is the captain providing misinformation, fleeing, the shipping company allowing the boat to be over capacity, the owner of the boat/shipping company was literally involved heavily with a CHRISTIAN CULT (http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2014/05/116_157216.html)

that cultist was the chief problem (and the captain). the cultist is dead now.

Surprise surprise, another cult was the shadow leader behind Park geun hye. Korea is sadly full of asshole christians (i see of lot of them on this site) who talk about god and spirits so much but are just blind pigs. this is largely because as Eric Weinstein says, when the institutional narratives throw away bits of truth during events in history, some of these outside groups latch onto that and gain a following, while deriding the main narrative. this gives rise to things like cults and antifa. in korea, you can imagine that decades of japanese occupation and then korean dictatorships made cults quite common because at their core there is a seed of anti-official-narrative truth.

my family was ousted from their home in mokdong during one of the dictatorships after the korean war, and the land was "bought" by the dictatorship government for a pittance, worth millions now. this sort of shit happening en masse on a variety of issues (students getting shot, Gwangju uprising, etc) obviously made koreans very critical of their government and also provided charismatic cult leaders and churches as an outlet.

overall i mean no harm, but i'm just asking you to reality check your perspective on korea and all.

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You_Aint_Black 1 point ago +1 / -0

Don't bother with these people. They're drones cut from the same cloth as the TDS crowd. Nothing you say will ever convince them that pimping out South Korea's industry and real estate which heroes like Junghee Park paid for with their very lives to build from the rubble left by the communist military to the likes of the very same line of communist dictators that destroyed their country in the first place is a greater sin than not making a comment about some stupid cult leader's flimsy boat. Nothing. So don't fucking bother.