Wait what are you even talking about here? "Keeping their names", pre-diaspora Hebrew names or something? What does that have to do with blending in or scapegoating "real" Jews?
When someone's talking about the Rothschilds nobody's confusing them with some poor Israeli grocery store worker.
I’m confused on what was asked at this point. I remember somebody asking why keep jewish names if not jewish. The two part answer is many didn’t (at least eventually) and those that did, did so to blend and not stand out as a unique group. That way the latter could also let jews take the fall for whatever nefarious crap they pulled as they hated jews anyway.
Wasn't me that asked it. Before, you said pretty much this and I pointed out the names being called out still belong to them, so they're not blending in or "letting" anyone take the fall.
Henry Kissinger points to Henry Kissinger, Sidney Rittenberg points to Sidney Rittenberg, Emmanuel Celler points to Emmanuel Celler.
At best that theory would just mean they're implicating a lot of other people. But also making themselves easier to persecute. Which doesn't make sense considering the enormous lengths they take to protect those "real jews" they supposedly hate. And they're living in European, Christian civilizations anyway... in practice it's the ones LEAST associated with being jewish that would blend in.
??? At this point I’m not sure when the communication broke down. The original comment IIRC had to do with names. I simply said some did change their names to no longer sound Jewish, while many kept them. Maybe the following will help too?
1.) I was not talking about individuals so much as whole families. Example, Rothschild is not a jewish name AFAIK, but they have jewish ethnic ancestry.
2.) They’ve spent centuries gathering wealth and power, it’s why a high level (but not top) operative like Soros can just do whatever for so long.
3.) Time frame. Your three examples are of people in the “modern” period. Jacob Frank live the later 1700’s. The cult he founded has been around for roughly America’s lifespan. But it’s also very, very likely that this globalist cult had existed long before that. It could be centuries or millennia old. For most of history, most cultures would be glad to blame a whole minority. Post WWII, western people are much less likely to think along those lines, which is the time period you were referencing.
But for most of their existence? Between bribing local officials, operating through agents from outside the country, etc. they could do shit to get local jewish ethnic populations in trouble without endangering or implicating themselves.
Wait what are you even talking about here? "Keeping their names", pre-diaspora Hebrew names or something? What does that have to do with blending in or scapegoating "real" Jews?
When someone's talking about the Rothschilds nobody's confusing them with some poor Israeli grocery store worker.
I’m confused on what was asked at this point. I remember somebody asking why keep jewish names if not jewish. The two part answer is many didn’t (at least eventually) and those that did, did so to blend and not stand out as a unique group. That way the latter could also let jews take the fall for whatever nefarious crap they pulled as they hated jews anyway.
Wasn't me that asked it. Before, you said pretty much this and I pointed out the names being called out still belong to them, so they're not blending in or "letting" anyone take the fall.
Henry Kissinger points to Henry Kissinger, Sidney Rittenberg points to Sidney Rittenberg, Emmanuel Celler points to Emmanuel Celler.
At best that theory would just mean they're implicating a lot of other people. But also making themselves easier to persecute. Which doesn't make sense considering the enormous lengths they take to protect those "real jews" they supposedly hate. And they're living in European, Christian civilizations anyway... in practice it's the ones LEAST associated with being jewish that would blend in.
??? At this point I’m not sure when the communication broke down. The original comment IIRC had to do with names. I simply said some did change their names to no longer sound Jewish, while many kept them. Maybe the following will help too?
1.) I was not talking about individuals so much as whole families. Example, Rothschild is not a jewish name AFAIK, but they have jewish ethnic ancestry.
2.) They’ve spent centuries gathering wealth and power, it’s why a high level (but not top) operative like Soros can just do whatever for so long.
3.) Time frame. Your three examples are of people in the “modern” period. Jacob Frank live the later 1700’s. The cult he founded has been around for roughly America’s lifespan. But it’s also very, very likely that this globalist cult had existed long before that. It could be centuries or millennia old. For most of history, most cultures would be glad to blame a whole minority. Post WWII, western people are much less likely to think along those lines, which is the time period you were referencing.
But for most of their existence? Between bribing local officials, operating through agents from outside the country, etc. they could do shit to get local jewish ethnic populations in trouble without endangering or implicating themselves.