MODS: Please sticky. Patriots.win users could be paying money to a scam, and it could hurt our cause.
Let me preface this by saying I do think the election was stolen, and I do think there is a chance Scorecard+Hammer might exist. I'm pretty sure Mike Lindell is genuine and not knowingly involved in any scam. Most of the allegations and guests he had on his "Absolute Truth" video I actually believe. EXCEPT for Mary Fanning and her spreadsheet. As an IT guy, that thing smells. Anybody can make a spreadsheet, and for that to be what it claims, I'm going to need more information about the source, methods, etc. used to make that spreadsheet. So technically, that's suspect.
BUT, add to that, that Mary Fanning has had this on http://TheAmericanReport.org for a while. That site lists the source as https://blxware.org/, which mentions it has data from Edra Blixseth's Federal and State sources. https://www.electionrecords.com/scorecard/index.html I'm going to set aside the fact that the sites just look highly unprofessional - maybe somebody just slapped them up. But on electionrecords.com, there is a donate button. Donations go to https://givesendgo.com/GXBZ , which lists Dennis Montgomery as the recipient, personally. Here is wikipedia for Dennis Montgomery, which outlines several scams going back to the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_L._Montgomery
Now, I'm not one to trust wikipedia implicitly. Maybe Dennis has been set up and really in the right in all these scams going back to 1998. OR maybe the easy explanation is true: he's a scammer and is running another scam here. The easy way for him to prove he is legit is to publicly post the data, sources, and methodology used for the claims on his site. Instead we see a video of some map, and video of a spreadsheet and some shitty websites.
IF it is a scam, you know how MSM will spin it. Not just this scam, but also the other claims of fraud will be lumped into a "money making scheme". Dennis will be in jail, Mike will be ridiculed, and that will be that.
Bottom line is I would not pay any money to Dennis Montgomery or believe those particular Mary Fanning claims without way more evidence than what is presented.
a couple days ago you were casting doubt on mike, now mary... what are you up to?
Read the posts from a couple days ago. I say the same thing. I think Mike is being fooled by blxware.org. Now I'm saying either Mary is fooled as well or is doing the fooling, and providing additional info.
Unfortunately, it benefits the democrats to get someone into mike, get him spewing nonsense then use that to discredit him and anything about election fraud.
With the stakes this high, it's a no brainer to target someone with visibility like this.
Considering the systems were run by corrupt groups, I don't think they'd want to give network access to anyone to monitor. which means you'd have to be hacking the elections networks to monitor. That's something the FBI would be on right now if it were true.
Well, NSA or other nations could in theory monitor this traffic. Or Dominion/scytl/etc. I just don’t think Dennis is that guy, or that it would leak in such a crappy site. I have thought about the idea that this is an intentional psyop. If I were to organize ballot stuffing, mail in fraud etc., “leaking” a few crazy theories to some key players would be a good way to cover my tracks. I could lump claims of ballot stuffing with my leaked conspiracies etc. to hide the truth. Still the simplest explanation is just that Dennis is running a scam
so then your theory is that blxware created the entire dominion narrative, the germany servers, the spreadsheets, the videos of people showing how easy it is to swap votes on the machine, the cnn videos talking about dominion's shady ties to venezuela and their ability to manipulate votes, etc all to get donations? I've never even heard of them until now that everyone is trying to discredit mike, and definitely don't know about anyone donating to them.
No. Dominion is shady, the videos of adjudication, the Antrim report and plenty of other things show real evidence of fraud.
Mary showed a video of a spreadsheet and a map. Mary runs AmericanReport.org, who did show the source of this data as blxware and electionrecords. Those have the same map video (which is meaningless) and a link to a donation page for someone who may be a scammer. Just because the election fraud was real doesn't mean there can't be people taking advantage of the reports of fraud to peddle fake theories and/or earn a quick buck. Dude has raised 67k just from a dinky website with zero actual evidence on it.
fair enough, and I'm sure there are a few errors in mike's video, he's not an intelligence community. and this is the problem, that nobody has investigated any of this. I don't think 1 error in this 2 hour video would throw this thing off the tracks any more than it has been.
Info wars
YEP. OP IS LARPING IN AN EFFORT TO DISCREDIT BOTH MIKE AND MARY. WE SEE YOU OP. TAKE YOUR BS AND GO SPEW IT ON SOME LOW INFORMATION AUDIENCE THAT IS STUPID ENOUGH TO BELIEVE IT.
Everything this pede has said is true*, and it takes you three minutes to verify it. Frens, please understand that bad information hurts our cause, and we should welcome pedes like OP who do the due diligence for us with healthy skepticism.
* With the one exception that americanreport.org is not the accurate URL where this data has been published before, it's theamericanreport.org.
fixed the link. thanks.
So you're telling me you go to https://www.electionrecords.com/scorecard/index.html and click on the donate button and your first thought is "this is completely legitimate"
KINDA LIKE PATRIOTS.WIN NOW TAKING DONATIONS.
No. Patriots.win is providing a legit service and lots of content that people can evaluate and discuss themselves. Look at electionrecords.com and patriots.win and tell me which site you think is more deserving of donations. Which has more sources and detailed explanations of their claims? Which allows you to interact with the site owner directly and publicly? Which looks like a modern site vs something the 90s threw up?
So no it’s not kinda like that at all. Also, I think your caps lock is stuck.