140
posted ago by redpillsrus ago by redpillsrus +145 / -5

MODS: Please sticky. Patriots.win users could be paying money to a scam, and it could hurt our cause.

Let me preface this by saying I do think the election was stolen, and I do think there is a chance Scorecard+Hammer might exist. I'm pretty sure Mike Lindell is genuine and not knowingly involved in any scam. Most of the allegations and guests he had on his "Absolute Truth" video I actually believe. EXCEPT for Mary Fanning and her spreadsheet. As an IT guy, that thing smells. Anybody can make a spreadsheet, and for that to be what it claims, I'm going to need more information about the source, methods, etc. used to make that spreadsheet. So technically, that's suspect.

BUT, add to that, that Mary Fanning has had this on http://TheAmericanReport.org for a while. That site lists the source as https://blxware.org/, which mentions it has data from Edra Blixseth's Federal and State sources. https://www.electionrecords.com/scorecard/index.html I'm going to set aside the fact that the sites just look highly unprofessional - maybe somebody just slapped them up. But on electionrecords.com, there is a donate button. Donations go to https://givesendgo.com/GXBZ , which lists Dennis Montgomery as the recipient, personally. Here is wikipedia for Dennis Montgomery, which outlines several scams going back to the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_L._Montgomery

Now, I'm not one to trust wikipedia implicitly. Maybe Dennis has been set up and really in the right in all these scams going back to 1998. OR maybe the easy explanation is true: he's a scammer and is running another scam here. The easy way for him to prove he is legit is to publicly post the data, sources, and methodology used for the claims on his site. Instead we see a video of some map, and video of a spreadsheet and some shitty websites.

IF it is a scam, you know how MSM will spin it. Not just this scam, but also the other claims of fraud will be lumped into a "money making scheme". Dennis will be in jail, Mike will be ridiculed, and that will be that.

Bottom line is I would not pay any money to Dennis Montgomery or believe those particular Mary Fanning claims without way more evidence than what is presented.

Comments (82)
sorted by:
You're viewing a single comment thread. View all comments, or full comment thread.
9
cuhboose 9 points ago +9 / -0

Even if it's a LARP or not, it should be enough to get a court to actually do discovery on the claims, which then means collection of data.

I mean it should be really easy to be show all of the Biden ballots, all the adjugated ballots, their originals and their corrections.

Or even a more simple mindset to think about it:

"HEY we have proof your machines were hacked and ballots were changed." "No they weren't." "Cool refute our evidence with your own proof that we are wrong."

Even if it's a larp, the fact that it was put together in a manner to suggest of a cyber attack would remain on the defendant, in this case Dominion, to prove or validate it wasn't the case. Which then would allow discovery to be done on the machines themselves.

Also a final note, you don't show your entire hand until the court date is there. This gives them a chance to cover up their tracks, I wouldn't disclose any of my white hat methods until an agreement or a judge was present.

5
deleted 5 points ago +6 / -1
3
Frustrated123 3 points ago +4 / -1

I'm so pissed off that these people are scamming Mike.

3
deleted 3 points ago +3 / -0
3
cuhboose 3 points ago +3 / -0

Fair, but it still forces them to explain one way or the other. The real challenge is that the average American is an idiot who can't apply critical thinking to any level.

How many people can even understand what a cyber attack really is? I mean I agree the evidence is quite shit, anyone can use a VPN or Proxy chain to make it look like they are coming from China. The solid evidence would be if they could prove that a Dominion machine's MAC address was holding one of the IPs that was "targeted" and touched by a foreign actor.

1
deleted 1 point ago +1 / -0