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posted ago by redpillsrus ago by redpillsrus +145 / -5

MODS: Please sticky. Patriots.win users could be paying money to a scam, and it could hurt our cause.

Let me preface this by saying I do think the election was stolen, and I do think there is a chance Scorecard+Hammer might exist. I'm pretty sure Mike Lindell is genuine and not knowingly involved in any scam. Most of the allegations and guests he had on his "Absolute Truth" video I actually believe. EXCEPT for Mary Fanning and her spreadsheet. As an IT guy, that thing smells. Anybody can make a spreadsheet, and for that to be what it claims, I'm going to need more information about the source, methods, etc. used to make that spreadsheet. So technically, that's suspect.

BUT, add to that, that Mary Fanning has had this on http://TheAmericanReport.org for a while. That site lists the source as https://blxware.org/, which mentions it has data from Edra Blixseth's Federal and State sources. https://www.electionrecords.com/scorecard/index.html I'm going to set aside the fact that the sites just look highly unprofessional - maybe somebody just slapped them up. But on electionrecords.com, there is a donate button. Donations go to https://givesendgo.com/GXBZ , which lists Dennis Montgomery as the recipient, personally. Here is wikipedia for Dennis Montgomery, which outlines several scams going back to the 90s: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_L._Montgomery

Now, I'm not one to trust wikipedia implicitly. Maybe Dennis has been set up and really in the right in all these scams going back to 1998. OR maybe the easy explanation is true: he's a scammer and is running another scam here. The easy way for him to prove he is legit is to publicly post the data, sources, and methodology used for the claims on his site. Instead we see a video of some map, and video of a spreadsheet and some shitty websites.

IF it is a scam, you know how MSM will spin it. Not just this scam, but also the other claims of fraud will be lumped into a "money making scheme". Dennis will be in jail, Mike will be ridiculed, and that will be that.

Bottom line is I would not pay any money to Dennis Montgomery or believe those particular Mary Fanning claims without way more evidence than what is presented.

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RedditIsCommunist 5 points ago +5 / -0

Yea, there’s a serious problem with misinformation campaigns being used to cover up and smokescreen other things. That’s why people need to be careful.

Here’s how the tactic works.

Assume for the sake of argument that the Comet Ping Pong owner really is involved in some sort of organized crime, so you want to cover that up. What you do is spread a bunch of false and increasingly crazy information about him and his restaurant. Then some incident happens (possibly staged) and you get the police to investigate the fake information and they find out that it’s fake, tell the press, the press reports the fake information as fake and says the accused is totally innocent of everything because it’s all a hoax.

But if the accused really is involved in something or the other then all of that never gets investigated and they just continue on as usual. Any evidence that isn’t fake is missed because the distraction/misdirection has succeeded.

Something like this tactic seems to have been going on with several different issues including the election fraud situation. People have not been careful enough about which evidence is credible.