Please HELP!!! We are growing RAPIDLY and for starters need GREETER help in the main chat/help desk - Patriots need to roll in get up to speed head to their groups and start working on bringing more people in. YOUR local town/county needs it's patriots ORGANIZED and TRAINED to handle CONSTITUTIONAL EMERGENCIES. All state groups should be directing traffic through the main chat where there is USUALLY someone there to answer questions and cue them in on THE PLAN - which is ONE PAGE - 5 minute read and EASILY duplicatable. https://odysee.com/@vinceableworld:a/OathEnforcersThePlanPDF:b
We want to supply you with patriots for whatever you need to get done in your LOCAL COMMUNITY where it counts. It's time to start managing our own back yards patriots - and stop focusing on the show.
TY in advance for your UPVOTE and God Bless the Patriots!!!
P.S. Please consider passing around this patriots.win post so we can get it noticed here. Your rights probably depend on it.
Our organization will make politicians and attorneys obsolete. You only need the attorney for example, because the cop violated his oath. The politician can't effect you with unconstitutional legislation if the cop isn't willing to carry out the unlawful orders. This organization will effectively nullify bad government.
I'm talking about multiple legal layers. The group is talking about enforcing the constitution but disregarding the corrupt laws that twist the constitution. To keep the group from destroying themselves I think they need to be well informed about what is in the constitution. If I'm reading this right then the group wants to uphold constitutional laws and not create anarchy. Not everyone knows the constitution inside and out.
Are you an ATTORNEY sir? It sounds like you are just an attorney threatened by something that is going to effect his bottom line. I addressed these concerns in the previous comment. There's not going to be any "legal layers" bro... sorry. The reason I ask if you are an attorney is because this sounds like the typical "You're stupid and you don't know what your rights are" schpeel.
Absolutely not. I'm worse. One of the normal 'middle of the road' people that you would need to convince to join a group like this. Consider my replies as 'wimpy' but constructive criticism. I think more people would need a lot more information before putting their families in immediate danger. If the movement is truly about being well informed and intelligent then I would think it would need to be able to back up it's claims better. A good example would be a list of laws that are twisting what parts of the constitution and why it's wrong. In lay man's terms. I think you would convince more people to join your movement that way than just basing the plan off of rage and being pissed off that the election was stolen. A constitutional lawyer would be helpful in understand the constitution and correct laws that should be in place and not for working within the current legal system that is failing us. It's not 1776. You're not fighting a king. You're not creating a new constitution. You're talking about repairing what is being destroyed. I would bet that more people would be willing to put themselves at risk if they knew where the line was drawn constitutionally. I believe even the forefathers created justification for what they were doing.
POINT BLANK my brother anyone who stands up for their rights in this day and age is taking a risk. Cowards definitely need not apply. I'm a three time police brutality victim. I've spent over a year in jail and I've done nothing wrong. I'm not going to sit here and say nothing we do will be risky and experimental. I can tell you though that I'm willing to do all of those things myself and set the example.
How exactly are you putting your family in danger man? That's just fear porn. You're not helping with your comment. Nothing you say in here should prevent patriots from organizing into groups in their local communities. Initially that is all that we are doing. The first task for a group (of at least 12) will be to hit the PD, court and town hall and make sure everyone gets a constitution, your local flyer or our main one... and they are put on notice that you'll be holding them accountable.
Any group referenced on this site would not be considered just a grounp. It would be targeted as radicals. It's just as niave to think there is not risk to your family. Just like Jan 6th. If you're going to put cops on notice then you definitely need to understand exactly what you are doing , how to defend your family, and why.
They are gonna be rounding us up soon. You might wanna pick a side and stick your neck out before it gets chopped off by a guillotine. Otherwise - stay off this thread and pray some real Patriots step up to save your ass before the New World Order puts the final pieces in place.
In the current environment, where the govt is talking about making us terrorists, someone pops online with feel good post of about joining a group, people are going to have questions. They're going to want specifics. Honestly, this isn't that hard to understand.
Don't we have the right to confront our ACCUSER in court? Where is the accuser? Is it the cop? No that's just a witness for the state. WHO is the state sir. Please tell me WHO is the accuser when the STATE is listed as the plaintiff?
Literally the state is your accuser. Your “right to face your accuser” is satisfied through your opportunity to impeach evidence of your criminality at trial.
The state passes criminal codes. The state represents the public at large when you break such laws. That is from the Police Powers clause of the 10th amendment to the constitution.
If you got up in front of a judge and said what you just posted, you would be laughed out of the courtroom and directly into a jail cell.
Sovereign citizens (which I assume you are) have literally never won a case, in ever
Sorry the state can't be an accuser. The state is a WHAT not a who. Only idiots make assumptions. "Sovereign citizen" is a term pushed out by the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center - a group of rabid "hate speech" attorneys) in order to demonize "sovereigns" which are actually we the people of the united states of America. No sovereign ever won a case as far as I know you are correct. We're not trying to win the case though. We just want to keep you out of court and if you're in court - we want to get you out. Your BAR CARD will not allow you to accept any solution that doesn't pad your bank account so I don't expect you'll be agreeing with me no matter how long this conversation lasts.
I noticed you put "accuse you" in quotes. No in fact the state cannot be an accuser, but nobody ever calls them out on it. Oh and by the way you've been reduced to petty insults so I win. You must not be a very good attorney.
Besides... the system is rigged against whoever can't afford your retainer. We need a REAL guarantee of our rights not this BS legal system that only grants justice to the rich and connected.
Please HELP!!! We are growing RAPIDLY and for starters need GREETER help in the main chat/help desk - Patriots need to roll in get up to speed head to their groups and start working on bringing more people in. YOUR local town/county needs it's patriots ORGANIZED and TRAINED to handle CONSTITUTIONAL EMERGENCIES. All state groups should be directing traffic through the main chat where there is USUALLY someone there to answer questions and cue them in on THE PLAN - which is ONE PAGE - 5 minute read and EASILY duplicatable. https://odysee.com/@vinceableworld:a/OathEnforcersThePlanPDF:b
If you have issue with that pdf (scroll bar in a page thing) the plan is also detailed in this video which is SWITCHING PATRIOTS ON (vote up this comment if you agree). https://odysee.com/@vinceableworld:a/operation-information-warfare-has:d
We want to supply you with patriots for whatever you need to get done in your LOCAL COMMUNITY where it counts. It's time to start managing our own back yards patriots - and stop focusing on the show. TY in advance for your UPVOTE and God Bless the Patriots!!!
P.S. Please consider passing around this patriots.win post so we can get it noticed here. Your rights probably depend on it.
be wary if they ask for personal information ONLINE.
We don't ask for personal info, but thanks for your concern and warning. 😀👍
You love fly over country do you? Why do you call it fly over country?
Are constitutional lawyer availible to the groups?
Our organization will make politicians and attorneys obsolete. You only need the attorney for example, because the cop violated his oath. The politician can't effect you with unconstitutional legislation if the cop isn't willing to carry out the unlawful orders. This organization will effectively nullify bad government.
I'm talking about multiple legal layers. The group is talking about enforcing the constitution but disregarding the corrupt laws that twist the constitution. To keep the group from destroying themselves I think they need to be well informed about what is in the constitution. If I'm reading this right then the group wants to uphold constitutional laws and not create anarchy. Not everyone knows the constitution inside and out.
Are you an ATTORNEY sir? It sounds like you are just an attorney threatened by something that is going to effect his bottom line. I addressed these concerns in the previous comment. There's not going to be any "legal layers" bro... sorry. The reason I ask if you are an attorney is because this sounds like the typical "You're stupid and you don't know what your rights are" schpeel.
Absolutely not. I'm worse. One of the normal 'middle of the road' people that you would need to convince to join a group like this. Consider my replies as 'wimpy' but constructive criticism. I think more people would need a lot more information before putting their families in immediate danger. If the movement is truly about being well informed and intelligent then I would think it would need to be able to back up it's claims better. A good example would be a list of laws that are twisting what parts of the constitution and why it's wrong. In lay man's terms. I think you would convince more people to join your movement that way than just basing the plan off of rage and being pissed off that the election was stolen. A constitutional lawyer would be helpful in understand the constitution and correct laws that should be in place and not for working within the current legal system that is failing us. It's not 1776. You're not fighting a king. You're not creating a new constitution. You're talking about repairing what is being destroyed. I would bet that more people would be willing to put themselves at risk if they knew where the line was drawn constitutionally. I believe even the forefathers created justification for what they were doing.
POINT BLANK my brother anyone who stands up for their rights in this day and age is taking a risk. Cowards definitely need not apply. I'm a three time police brutality victim. I've spent over a year in jail and I've done nothing wrong. I'm not going to sit here and say nothing we do will be risky and experimental. I can tell you though that I'm willing to do all of those things myself and set the example.
How exactly are you putting your family in danger man? That's just fear porn. You're not helping with your comment. Nothing you say in here should prevent patriots from organizing into groups in their local communities. Initially that is all that we are doing. The first task for a group (of at least 12) will be to hit the PD, court and town hall and make sure everyone gets a constitution, your local flyer or our main one... and they are put on notice that you'll be holding them accountable.
Any group referenced on this site would not be considered just a grounp. It would be targeted as radicals. It's just as niave to think there is not risk to your family. Just like Jan 6th. If you're going to put cops on notice then you definitely need to understand exactly what you are doing , how to defend your family, and why.
They are gonna be rounding us up soon. You might wanna pick a side and stick your neck out before it gets chopped off by a guillotine. Otherwise - stay off this thread and pray some real Patriots step up to save your ass before the New World Order puts the final pieces in place.
My rights end where yours begin. That's what we'll be enforcing.
Guy asks an honest question and you attack him.
His so-called honest question was loaded with fear porn. How can he even know what a group is about until he finds out what a group is about?
That's why he asked the question.
In the current environment, where the govt is talking about making us terrorists, someone pops online with feel good post of about joining a group, people are going to have questions. They're going to want specifics. Honestly, this isn't that hard to understand.
Thanks for the backup.
Lawyer here: good luck proving the “officer violated his oath” and your arrest was unconstitutional without a lawyer.
Pro se litigants have a 0.0% chance of correctly or adequately defending themselves in a criminal proceeding.
Don't we have the right to confront our ACCUSER in court? Where is the accuser? Is it the cop? No that's just a witness for the state. WHO is the state sir. Please tell me WHO is the accuser when the STATE is listed as the plaintiff?
Literally the state is your accuser. Your “right to face your accuser” is satisfied through your opportunity to impeach evidence of your criminality at trial.
The state passes criminal codes. The state represents the public at large when you break such laws. That is from the Police Powers clause of the 10th amendment to the constitution.
If you got up in front of a judge and said what you just posted, you would be laughed out of the courtroom and directly into a jail cell.
Sovereign citizens (which I assume you are) have literally never won a case, in ever
Sorry the state can't be an accuser. The state is a WHAT not a who. Only idiots make assumptions. "Sovereign citizen" is a term pushed out by the SPLC (Southern Poverty Law Center - a group of rabid "hate speech" attorneys) in order to demonize "sovereigns" which are actually we the people of the united states of America. No sovereign ever won a case as far as I know you are correct. We're not trying to win the case though. We just want to keep you out of court and if you're in court - we want to get you out. Your BAR CARD will not allow you to accept any solution that doesn't pad your bank account so I don't expect you'll be agreeing with me no matter how long this conversation lasts.
The state can 100% “accuse you” as evidenced by the millions of successful criminal prosecutions by said state in this country’s history.
Sovereign iditozen confirmed
I noticed you put "accuse you" in quotes. No in fact the state cannot be an accuser, but nobody ever calls them out on it. Oh and by the way you've been reduced to petty insults so I win. You must not be a very good attorney.
Besides... the system is rigged against whoever can't afford your retainer. We need a REAL guarantee of our rights not this BS legal system that only grants justice to the rich and connected.
Do you want a HOTLINE to call when your RIGHTS are being violated?
Our rights are GUARANTEED by the constitution right?
Where is the 800 number that I can put in a claim on my guarantee?
How can we be the "land of the free" if our rights are not guaranteed?