It's a combination. Men actually don't find women who value careers attractive. Women + Career is a detractor to women. I know a lot of "progressive" men on here will try to counter my position saying "no, I find woman + career hot" but that is what you're told and programmed to like but it actually goes against your nature.
The ideal woman is a feminine woman who values men + family above career and in fact does not work. The man provides for her and she looks after family. This is the ideal and it is what works best in nature. Women are at the prime of their lives to start a family at 20. This is the prime at a biological and chemical level. The longer they wait the less successful she will be at providing a family for a man and thus the less attractive to men she becomes.
What women refuse to accept is that careers destroy their feminine side. All women like to maintain that they have a dual identity. Their "personal life" identity and their "career identity". They are competitive and like a man at their career but in their personal life they are feminine. This is false. The careers have a material impact on their personalities and this impact makes them less attractive to men. Men do not find masculine women attractive, they find feminine women attractive. The more a woman works, the less attractive she becomes.
Many men are trying to "adapt" but a lot of men don't want to bother. At the same time women, the more they pursue education + career and delay their child rearing, the less they see any value in men. Women have been programmed to view career success and their economic power as the purpose for their life instead of family which means they don't need men in their life. Then women resent men because men don't find what these women have become valuable at all. These women are trying to find a man who doesn't exist and men are trying to find a woman that doesn't exist.
I'd blame society more than blaming the women. What we need to do is convince women to pull-back from society and assume their traditional roles by convincing them that is better for society as a whole and themselves as well from a well-being perspective.
If a 7yo found their parents gun and killed themselves is it entirely on the 7yo? The parents have responsibility. You can blame the women but at the same time these women have been entirely led astray by their parents and society at large so not all the blame falls on them.
A 7 year old is not the same as a 25 to 44 year old. The 7 year old killing themselves I'd put the blame squarely on the parents. They are your whole world at that age.
But when does personal responsibility come into play? The need for self reflection and honest analysis? Sure from 25 to 30 these girls are misled.
But if you're 35 years old and you haven't figured it out yet then that's YOUR fault. You've been out of your parents house for how long?
Maybe I'm biased.
But every woman I know over 35 who's single (except widows) is completely delusional, has the HIGHEST perception of themselves and harsh judgment on everyone else, and is kind of a rude bitch.
And in spite of all that there are plenty of men who would be happy to settle down with them but they reject them all because they refuse to compromise on anything....with a man. But they will be friends with girls who screw them over all the time.
Society may have influenced them but it's their own fault they haven't seen the light yet. They are forcibly burying their heads in the sand and that takes EFFORT.
The ones I know who are married? They vary widely, lots slept around, one was a stripper, some have careers, some quit them to be housewives, some make more than their husbands, ones a doctor, some run their husband's businesses.
What do they have in common? Emotional Maturity and an ability to realize when you're doing wrong and change.
Is Church not part of society?? Isnt "conventional wisdom" part of society? Classic movies? There are hundreds of years of evidence towards the benefits of traditional roles and femininity.
These women actively chose to reject the "patriarchal" society.
I totally understand your perspective. One problem is that by the time women realize the truth, it is already mostly too late. They missed their peak years and this is a hard pill to swallow. At some level women understand that it's too late for them so they double-down on the wrong path out of resentment for the truth.
And yes, some women never do figure out the truth. The average person is not that smart. Most people just go along with what the forces of the social collective tell them too and they lack the intelligence, experience and knowledge for true introspection.
I don't disagree with anything you said and I don't want to conclude people shouldn't be fully accountable for their actions but there are also forces at play greater than the individual. Just look at the impacts the last 60 years of social change has had on our society. You can't tell me the women today are just worse than the woman before at a natural level? They're all the same women but it's the structure of our society that has shaped them the way they are. Some blame also must be attributed to society itself.
One problem is that by the time women realize the truth, it is already mostly too late.
If they realized the TRUTH they would swallow their ego and marry on their level. An older man. A single dad. A divorced man. Whatever.
But all of them just continue in the same cycle of self pity and never do the real work. There are plenty of men who need a good wife and are dating at all ages, kids are available for adoption but these women can't have their fantasy marriage life anymore so they don't want any marriage at all. They only want to go back to the past and get the guy they could have at 25. They only realize they made a mistake. But they don't try to correct it, just regret it and deny it. Is that truth?
And I don't think women are worse naturally now than before. I think they just don't try to go against their nature anymore. They deny everything and idolize themselves. Idk they're hard to pity. They have everything and THAT'S the problem.
Telling these delusional narcissistic women that they are in the position they are in because of anyone but themselves isn't helpful for them. (And we even have them here)
Your rhetoric will be helpful for raising children though and teaching people who aren't already in the trap. But the 32 year old who's still partying and is super stoked on her promotion but got dumped 6 times in the past 5 months and then dumped the one guy who was willing to date her cause he wasn't a 666.......they need a reality check and some acceptance of their role in their own lives, not more coddling.
I think you miss that once she hits the wall and comes off the sex carousel and she can no longer pair bond, it is not a simple issue of trying to settle down. The fact is most guys are just not interested anymore in these women and their toxic thinking.
There are plenty of men who need a good wife and are dating at all ages, kids are available for adoption but these women can't have their fantasy marriage life anymore so they don't want any marriage at all.
Men have a hero complex. A 40 year old woman who's never been married could easily date and find someone who would adore her and love to marry her.
But he's probably older than her. Divorced. Has kids that are probably teenagers.
And she's too good for that. So she just stays alone....
It's all a mindframe issue. Not an opportunity one.
And the problem stays the same. They over value themselves, undervalue others and keep playing the same game.
that's a good point. for sure, there are a LOT of douchy assholes out there. But If a women finds herself limited to that dating pool, there's probably a reason.
Those stats dont paint an accurate picture. One person will be married for 60 years and that counts as 1 relationsbip when someone else will have 5 divorces and ea ch counts as a relationship.
Great summary! Spot on. Women also are taught to ignore their feminine powers. This applies to more attractive women of course but they have powers that are scorned by feminists.
Feminine powers indeed. Whenever a woman complains about being unable to find a man, all she literally has to do is tap into her feminine side. Men are weak to femininity but women refuse to be feminine because they either don't know how because of all the conditioning to stop women from being feminine or they know how but have created a mental block preventing them from acting feminine because they associate weakness + being demeaned if they act feminine to attract a man. They want to find a man who values her masculinity and that will never happen. All a woman has to do to attract men is be feminine but that is a problem for women and that's why there's so many single women.
Nah let's just downvote the person who's giving practical advice and encourage young women to spend 18 years twidling their thumbs, getting into massive amount of debt for a degree they'll barely earn enough to pay off and waiting for a man.
Live with their parents. If women focused on pursuing femininity, they won't have very many problems finding men. We've been around for how long as a civilization and used to have way more kids. You think men are going to not pursue women? If women actually shifted back into pure femininity, they would be irresistible to the men today so used to masculine women.
It's actually a very minor fear in the grand scheme of things.
They are nasty brainwashed liberals that say and do stupid shit that turns men away. They are anti masculine man or traditional roles in a marriage. There is massive amounts of divorce that the women often initiate themselves. They’ve been taught that manly men are evil and they don’t need a man to raise children. Then they were also taught that meanwhile they despise the cuck ass bitch men and wonder why they are unhappy.
young women are corrupted these days. you're right, every good one is pretty much taken at this point. however, thanks to lgbt shit & modern feminism, lots of guys have not wanted to be around women or even would hate them
Fucking nonsense. I know of a number of good women that just couldn't find a guy to marry them. Now they are in their 30s, still single, and probably will be for the rest of their lives. No, the problem is this next generation is full of manboys that value gaming over all else and see women as nothing more than pincushions for their dicks instead of potential wives and mothers of their children.
Fucking nonsense. You’re an old person, you know jack shit about modern women.
In the era you’re describing, years ago, this issue of women being single did not exist. You weren’t around for the social media whore revolution, stupid cunt.
The dude literally responded to ad-hominem himself bud.
At that point its fine to use it to point it out.
The person he responded to implied a negative stereotype (manchild gamers, which is hilarious because all my gamer friends have several kids and are married) which is ad-hominem.
Imagine painting someone a manchild who's married with several kids negatively, while simultaneously saying "my good lady friends found no one" and blamed her lady friends failures on bullshit things on the other gender.
Idk man seems like the women friends were just garbage, most dudes will marry and fuck any decent looking female who captures their interest. Its not rocket science 😂
Lost among the propaganda is that most everyone starts without a pot to piss in. Having a spousal partnership with shared goals is how a family grows and becomes strong and successful.
Men don't really gain their full 'market value' until their 30's. If he focuses on his career, health, and stays in shape? He can get his pick of 20-something women if he can keep his looks, physique, and has a solid-paying career at 35, when men reach their peak of attractiveness to women.
I'm not making excuses for your son, but times have changed. Millennials were graduating from high school and college into a recession. Job markets were tight in 2008-2016. A lack of financial stability is likely to result in a lack of confidence in relationships. Also, the cost of buying a house compared to average income has also changed as the supply of houses has grown at a snail's pace compared to demand.
I feel like I'm going to be screwed out of ever retiring due to a bad start in adult life, and bad economic policies in government through most of my career. Biden's policies are likely to create a massive amount of inflation which will wipe out almost all of my savings' value. Aside from a few lucky individuals, the millennial generation is mostly experiencing the same thing, plus massive college debt due to government interference in college pricing.
If your son is 32 and you were 28 when he was born, that puts you at 60 years old. You are part of the Boomer generation, which is said to be the wealthiest generation America has seen. You should just consider yourself fortunate and appreciate your success in life. The expectation of all who follow you matching your success is not realistic.
I'm all for personal responsibility when it comes to decisions made in a person's life. However, that doesn't provide a good picture of the group or generation they belong to. A lot of key financial markers show the Millennial generation is in a terrible state. A recent article stated Millennials hold 3% of the US wealth, when Gen X held 6% of the country's wealth at the same age in 2006. Their debt is higher, housing costs are higher, and earnings are lower than previous generations. In short, Millennials are the first generation to fall behind their parents' standard of living.
I don't know what the answer is to fix an entire generation, but it can't be as simple as "work hard" or "get the right job". More Millennials than you know have been doing that, and they still aren't where they should be, financially.
Ive given up on trying to find someone. Feminism amongst other things have turned women into different creatures. None of them will give me the time of day, much less go on a date. Hookup culture doesnt help things either, and I cant even get traction there.
I work and bust ass, trying to get to a more stable financial setting, Im working on trying to get a place of my own, trying to better myself, etc. Doesnt mean fuck all to women. Oh well, such as life.
I tried the "stop looking" thing. I hasn't worked for me after 10+ years of not looking. I'm getting to the point where a relationship isn't worth my time. I have so much freedom as a single man and don't want to give that up. My brothers and friends who did get married have all been divorced and it wrecked their lives. I think I made the wiser choice.
Many bought into the lie that they can "have it all" - the career at 20-30, and the hubby+kids at 30-40.
Problem is, most discover to their horror that their attractiveness and fertility both start dropping at around 30-35. Then they discover that the 30-35 y/o men who are attractive and have their shit together are chasing and getting 20-something girls.
By the time she's 35, she's either hoping for a rich 50-60 y/o guy, or looking for a simp to settle down with (or desperately chasing guys who want nothing to do with them, or going full feminazi, or becoming so easy that she no longer has any standards...)
Either way, ladies, if you're in your 20s, now is the time to get your best man, and not ride the carousel, yanno?
Biologically, humans were meant to start reproducing in their mid to late teens... and that's what we did up until the 1900's. By 20, the ovaries are sending in the B-squad, and by 30, it's the D-squad. Women waste their best reproductive years being indoctrinated in universities by leftists and feminists, and by the time they get around to actually wanting to have a family, they're at the point that they need fertility drugs to do it. It's no wonder that society now produces weak men, bad women, and the autistic rates are through the roof. We've done this to ourselves.
A woman wants a man who earns as much money or more than she does. Same with prestige. Meanwhile, women are displacing many men from high powered positions reducing the desirable pool of men. It’s a shame because women would prefer to marry a successful man than be a very successful woman, even if they won’t admit it out loud.
As someone who married and divorced a career-minded woman I can tell you that a primary contributor was that I saw zero value in the relationship. She worked all the time so she never cooked and rarely cleaned. We were always dealing with scheduling issues because we both worked a lot. Her job paid like shit compared to mine because it was liberal progressive policy job.
I realized one day there was no reason to be married to someone that literally did nothing to make my life easier and cost me tens of thousands of dollars a year.
If women don't want to be homemakers and want to chase their career, that's fine, but if you're not the breadwinner you need to understand you're bringing nothing to the table. Men are judged based on their ability to provide, and career-minded women are judged by that same standard.
Men want to be needed, it’s a base instinct and desire. So a woman who proves that “she don’t need no man” finds that she never actually gets one. The men all nope the fuck out.
Most american women now "screw" around until their market value is at rock bottom or they are 35 and hit the fertility wall, or have 2-4 kids by who knows who, and who "always come first". They think a 2-3 year older king would risk 50% of his assets to "put a ring on it" and save them.
This has absolutely nothing to do with "having a career".
It has to do with "no fault divorce" which allows everyone to violate a signed contract without the violator being held accountable.
Ask a therapist and they will tell you most of their clients are single 30+ women who are drinking themselves to death. Social media was the crack epidemic for white people.
Why would I, a single male, 6+ figs a year want to marry a chick with 4 kids that works at a dollar store or a professional that is a brain washed cunt. Because CCP made it this way.
It's definitely a combination. Women want to focus on their careers before settling down with a family, and men are tired of feminist bullshit. Men don't want toxic women, they want more feminine, friendly women instead. So there definitely are men walking away.
The family and divorce court system, along with the laws giving women preference over men have basically made it illegal to be a man. Until the system fixes that, women are going to remain single. Not to mention they ruined the economy, making it 10 more difficult for a man to be a provider.
Getting woman educated and into the workforce has been the priority from the intelligentsia since probably about th mid 90's. College admissions plus diversity programs have catered to woman; this is a natural result. There are other factors too.
i dont find a "career woman" attractive at all! i find a woman who is feminine , but knows how to get shit done, and has a stable job, attractive. fuck this "boss babe" shit. that's an insta boner killer to me.
btw, the lady in the article has nasty ass feet lol.
I've gone solitary monk and I used to be slut maker supreme. Once I realized what was happening, what I was doing, what it had done to me, and what it was doing to society... such is the fallen state.
Its so funny right? Hilarious. Just so fucking funny.
People don't understand.
This countries history is puritanical authority after another, save the founders. Each era had its owns rigid morality. Each era created their own enemies in the next, restricting rights of the individual, by gov or social structure. Conform or you can't play has been the standard. Last gens moral hacks created this gens rebellious hippies, and both want undue authority.
That's why this happened. Not enough people in this country want liberty. Every time there is a societal issue or disagreement, the gov is always asked to rule. Music, clothing, credes, media, religions, etc. Everyone wants something banned. No one wants to accept what they are to move passed it.
Such is the fallen state.
Those in the risen state, are excluded from my synopsis.
Boomers focused all their energy for the past 20 years or so pumping girls up to be independent and have careers, while letting boys “figure it out.” Well they didn’t, and if you’re white and a boy you were taught that you have to take a back seat to everyone else.
And they make this into a “poor women :(“ issue as always, but they could easily start relationships with the dirtbags they fuck on Tinder, they want their husbands to be rich though. No wonder so many men are becoming trannies, but yeah the women with good jobs are the victims haha
Women, for the health of the child, should have their kids in their 20s. By their 30s good men are either married or burned in a divorce... the burned guys are not going to remarry. By 39 it is pretty much over for women. No men interested or available. Not going to have kids...
I am a woman who has spent the last 10 years saving herself. And I will admit. I am jaded. absolutely. I am not anti man. I am anti soy boy. Be the brawny paper towel man.
I have maintained myself. I do my make up. I do my hair I take time for me. But I have lived my life on my own. I don't NEED anyone. I WANT someone. and people do not seem to understand the difference.
I am asking for a person who can say the same... And it seems like the two pools I get to swim in are: 1. men who have not bothered to maintain themselves and think I should simply be happy to be addressed by their presence. or 2. so socially inept and scorned by OTHER women they have no idea how to actually interact with a lady.
The last soul who had the confidence to ask me out had not yet bothered to introduce themselves. and I'm sorry..but who are you?
so socially inept and scorned by OTHER women they have no idea how to actually interact with a lady
Can you really blame them when society has warped romance, dating, and sex into some game of swiping left and right? The few who are successful at the game stop playing by their mid-late 20s because they know their shallow physical attractiveness degrades past that. That leaves the two categories you mentioned, and both are "losers" at playing the game.
Best of luck to you. I hope you find what you are looking for.
lol women created soyboys, reap what you fucking sow you miserable cunts. The majority of women destroyed masculinity for the sake of feminist bullshit, no more “boys will be boys”
You created this mess, and most men are satisfied being porn addicted losers, since women are ultimately not much more than masturbation machines in the age of no families.
Some of both, but I would blame men more than women. Due to wages staying flat for decades, and ever increasing taxes, it is difficult to support a family on one income and has been for a while, so women having jobs isn't necessarily the reason. While some women want a career over family, they are in the minority. Most want a family. I think it is more an issue with this generation of young men being skittish of marriage for a variety of reasons. Perhaps they don't feel they have the maturity to be a husband or father, or perhaps since they can get the sex without the ring, why take on all of that extra red tape? Probably one of our big challenges as a society is to get this next generation to see the value in marriage and family.
"wage staying flat for decades" is such bs. purchasing power has consistently gone up, with the only difference being that now people buy a lot more junk. you dont need an iphone every year, you don't need a new dress for every occasion, you dont need a decorative bookshelf with decorative books and decorative fake plants etc, etc. having a family will always be a sacrifice. the reason people used to make that sacrifice is because children would entertain them, but now that everyone is glued to their screens they no longer need the entertainment of children.
also, increasing taxes is the fault of women. men are innately more conservative, and thus are against things like welfare that increase taxes enormously, while women are the opposite. women got the vote, and used it to raise taxes.
agree about fear of marriage. divorce rate is enormous, so it's hardly surprising.
'maturity' is too subjective to argue either way about it, but the rise of technology is certainly wiring brains for short-term rewards over long-term rewards
men have always wanted to bang every woman they see since the beginning of time. evolutionarily, it is the male's role to impress the female, and the female's role to deny or accept the man.
"agree about fear of marriage. divorce rate is enormous"
I was suggesting they were afraid of marriage because the responsibility terrified them, not the fear of divorce. Speaking of divorce though, the divorce rate in the U.S. is declining (see link below). Also, you seem to think that if it is somewhat high overall, that it will be high for you. Nonsense. You have control over your destiny, and if you want a marriage to succeed, you put in the work to find a good woman, to be a good husband, a good father, and your chances of a successful marriage are much higher than average.
Having said that, marriage isn't for everyone, and maybe it isn't for you. It can be hard, and plenty of guys out there that couldn't do it even if they wanted to.
yes. ask yourself, why do third world countries have enormous birth rates while western countries dont even have enough to maintain the population number. humans are biologically wired to get hits of dopamine by having children. if that wasn't the case, humans would have died out long ago. the internet provides more dopamine than having children ever can.
'responsibility' is another buzzword; its subjective. it doesn't mean anything if you dont go into detail. one could say they have enough responsibility to not get married.
also, its utterly ridiculous to say a 15% divorce rate shouldnt be seriously considered when deciding whether to get married. its a very high number !! divorces fuck up peoples lives immensely. would you jump out of a plane if you had a 15% chance of dying?
It's a combination. Men actually don't find women who value careers attractive. Women + Career is a detractor to women. I know a lot of "progressive" men on here will try to counter my position saying "no, I find woman + career hot" but that is what you're told and programmed to like but it actually goes against your nature.
The ideal woman is a feminine woman who values men + family above career and in fact does not work. The man provides for her and she looks after family. This is the ideal and it is what works best in nature. Women are at the prime of their lives to start a family at 20. This is the prime at a biological and chemical level. The longer they wait the less successful she will be at providing a family for a man and thus the less attractive to men she becomes.
What women refuse to accept is that careers destroy their feminine side. All women like to maintain that they have a dual identity. Their "personal life" identity and their "career identity". They are competitive and like a man at their career but in their personal life they are feminine. This is false. The careers have a material impact on their personalities and this impact makes them less attractive to men. Men do not find masculine women attractive, they find feminine women attractive. The more a woman works, the less attractive she becomes.
Many men are trying to "adapt" but a lot of men don't want to bother. At the same time women, the more they pursue education + career and delay their child rearing, the less they see any value in men. Women have been programmed to view career success and their economic power as the purpose for their life instead of family which means they don't need men in their life. Then women resent men because men don't find what these women have become valuable at all. These women are trying to find a man who doesn't exist and men are trying to find a woman that doesn't exist.
You're not wrong with any of your statements.
But the 45% of women who are single did it to themselves.
Good women have no trouble finding a good man.
I'd blame society more than blaming the women. What we need to do is convince women to pull-back from society and assume their traditional roles by convincing them that is better for society as a whole and themselves as well from a well-being perspective.
If a 7yo found their parents gun and killed themselves is it entirely on the 7yo? The parents have responsibility. You can blame the women but at the same time these women have been entirely led astray by their parents and society at large so not all the blame falls on them.
A 7 year old is not the same as a 25 to 44 year old. The 7 year old killing themselves I'd put the blame squarely on the parents. They are your whole world at that age.
But when does personal responsibility come into play? The need for self reflection and honest analysis? Sure from 25 to 30 these girls are misled.
But if you're 35 years old and you haven't figured it out yet then that's YOUR fault. You've been out of your parents house for how long?
Maybe I'm biased.
But every woman I know over 35 who's single (except widows) is completely delusional, has the HIGHEST perception of themselves and harsh judgment on everyone else, and is kind of a rude bitch.
And in spite of all that there are plenty of men who would be happy to settle down with them but they reject them all because they refuse to compromise on anything....with a man. But they will be friends with girls who screw them over all the time.
Society may have influenced them but it's their own fault they haven't seen the light yet. They are forcibly burying their heads in the sand and that takes EFFORT.
The ones I know who are married? They vary widely, lots slept around, one was a stripper, some have careers, some quit them to be housewives, some make more than their husbands, ones a doctor, some run their husband's businesses.
What do they have in common? Emotional Maturity and an ability to realize when you're doing wrong and change.
Is Church not part of society?? Isnt "conventional wisdom" part of society? Classic movies? There are hundreds of years of evidence towards the benefits of traditional roles and femininity.
These women actively chose to reject the "patriarchal" society.
I totally understand your perspective. One problem is that by the time women realize the truth, it is already mostly too late. They missed their peak years and this is a hard pill to swallow. At some level women understand that it's too late for them so they double-down on the wrong path out of resentment for the truth.
And yes, some women never do figure out the truth. The average person is not that smart. Most people just go along with what the forces of the social collective tell them too and they lack the intelligence, experience and knowledge for true introspection.
I don't disagree with anything you said and I don't want to conclude people shouldn't be fully accountable for their actions but there are also forces at play greater than the individual. Just look at the impacts the last 60 years of social change has had on our society. You can't tell me the women today are just worse than the woman before at a natural level? They're all the same women but it's the structure of our society that has shaped them the way they are. Some blame also must be attributed to society itself.
If they realized the TRUTH they would swallow their ego and marry on their level. An older man. A single dad. A divorced man. Whatever.
But all of them just continue in the same cycle of self pity and never do the real work. There are plenty of men who need a good wife and are dating at all ages, kids are available for adoption but these women can't have their fantasy marriage life anymore so they don't want any marriage at all. They only want to go back to the past and get the guy they could have at 25. They only realize they made a mistake. But they don't try to correct it, just regret it and deny it. Is that truth?
And I don't think women are worse naturally now than before. I think they just don't try to go against their nature anymore. They deny everything and idolize themselves. Idk they're hard to pity. They have everything and THAT'S the problem.
Telling these delusional narcissistic women that they are in the position they are in because of anyone but themselves isn't helpful for them. (And we even have them here)
Your rhetoric will be helpful for raising children though and teaching people who aren't already in the trap. But the 32 year old who's still partying and is super stoked on her promotion but got dumped 6 times in the past 5 months and then dumped the one guy who was willing to date her cause he wasn't a 666.......they need a reality check and some acceptance of their role in their own lives, not more coddling.
I think you miss that once she hits the wall and comes off the sex carousel and she can no longer pair bond, it is not a simple issue of trying to settle down. The fact is most guys are just not interested anymore in these women and their toxic thinking.
I addressed that.
Men have a hero complex. A 40 year old woman who's never been married could easily date and find someone who would adore her and love to marry her.
But he's probably older than her. Divorced. Has kids that are probably teenagers.
And she's too good for that. So she just stays alone....
It's all a mindframe issue. Not an opportunity one.
And the problem stays the same. They over value themselves, undervalue others and keep playing the same game.
that's a good point. for sure, there are a LOT of douchy assholes out there. But If a women finds herself limited to that dating pool, there's probably a reason.
Exactly.
Same with men.
If your life is a string of failed relationships there is always one common factor.
You.
who said they are failed? The top guys go through them for a decade before they settle down.
Successful relationships don't end.
That's about 13% of them now if you also factor in cheating statistics where people stay anyway
Those stats dont paint an accurate picture. One person will be married for 60 years and that counts as 1 relationsbip when someone else will have 5 divorces and ea ch counts as a relationship.
Great summary! Spot on. Women also are taught to ignore their feminine powers. This applies to more attractive women of course but they have powers that are scorned by feminists.
Feminine powers indeed. Whenever a woman complains about being unable to find a man, all she literally has to do is tap into her feminine side. Men are weak to femininity but women refuse to be feminine because they either don't know how because of all the conditioning to stop women from being feminine or they know how but have created a mental block preventing them from acting feminine because they associate weakness + being demeaned if they act feminine to attract a man. They want to find a man who values her masculinity and that will never happen. All a woman has to do to attract men is be feminine but that is a problem for women and that's why there's so many single women.
Girl power didn't work?
this is true 100% and its sad.
One catch: what are girls supposed to do until they find a decent man to be a husband?
Prepare to be a wife. Learn skills. How to cook, be frugal, repair clothes, cleaning tricks, child rearing skills, learn about nutrition.
If you need money get a job
Don't spend 50k+ for your cArEeR
Economics isn't a terrible skillset, by any means. It used to be taught in high school.
Nah let's just downvote the person who's giving practical advice and encourage young women to spend 18 years twidling their thumbs, getting into massive amount of debt for a degree they'll barely earn enough to pay off and waiting for a man.
Live with their parents. If women focused on pursuing femininity, they won't have very many problems finding men. We've been around for how long as a civilization and used to have way more kids. You think men are going to not pursue women? If women actually shifted back into pure femininity, they would be irresistible to the men today so used to masculine women.
It's actually a very minor fear in the grand scheme of things.
Many decent men just don't fit the mold of propaganda. Six pack, and money
Become as strong and self sufficient as they can be.
BASED
They are nasty brainwashed liberals that say and do stupid shit that turns men away. They are anti masculine man or traditional roles in a marriage. There is massive amounts of divorce that the women often initiate themselves. They’ve been taught that manly men are evil and they don’t need a man to raise children. Then they were also taught that meanwhile they despise the cuck ass bitch men and wonder why they are unhappy.
young women are corrupted these days. you're right, every good one is pretty much taken at this point. however, thanks to lgbt shit & modern feminism, lots of guys have not wanted to be around women or even would hate them
Fucking nonsense. I know of a number of good women that just couldn't find a guy to marry them. Now they are in their 30s, still single, and probably will be for the rest of their lives. No, the problem is this next generation is full of manboys that value gaming over all else and see women as nothing more than pincushions for their dicks instead of potential wives and mothers of their children.
Every man i know who married is a gamer. Maybe your single lady friends werent that great 👀
Blaming video games?
Are you a chameleon or a tradthot?
You raise a good point. You've just described it from a woman's perspective.
Nuclear family is almost completely dead. I'm a young millennial & I can confirm this
I literally told a person "I am SO much more interesting than my ability to be a receptical for you" They did not stick around. 🤣
Fucking nonsense. You’re an old person, you know jack shit about modern women.
In the era you’re describing, years ago, this issue of women being single did not exist. You weren’t around for the social media whore revolution, stupid cunt.
You sound like a incel.
Ad-hominem is definitely a good tactic and definitely doesnt show you cant argue against the words said.
I’m going to assume you didn’t read his comment. That doesn’t deserve an argument. Dude sounds like an incel.
The dude literally responded to ad-hominem himself bud.
At that point its fine to use it to point it out. The person he responded to implied a negative stereotype (manchild gamers, which is hilarious because all my gamer friends have several kids and are married) which is ad-hominem.
Imagine painting someone a manchild who's married with several kids negatively, while simultaneously saying "my good lady friends found no one" and blamed her lady friends failures on bullshit things on the other gender.
Idk man seems like the women friends were just garbage, most dudes will marry and fuck any decent looking female who captures their interest. Its not rocket science 😂
Lost among the propaganda is that most everyone starts without a pot to piss in. Having a spousal partnership with shared goals is how a family grows and becomes strong and successful.
Men don't really gain their full 'market value' until their 30's. If he focuses on his career, health, and stays in shape? He can get his pick of 20-something women if he can keep his looks, physique, and has a solid-paying career at 35, when men reach their peak of attractiveness to women.
Got 2 boys on that track. They have no interest in what is around them at this point. Their big sister agrees.
I'm not making excuses for your son, but times have changed. Millennials were graduating from high school and college into a recession. Job markets were tight in 2008-2016. A lack of financial stability is likely to result in a lack of confidence in relationships. Also, the cost of buying a house compared to average income has also changed as the supply of houses has grown at a snail's pace compared to demand.
I feel like I'm going to be screwed out of ever retiring due to a bad start in adult life, and bad economic policies in government through most of my career. Biden's policies are likely to create a massive amount of inflation which will wipe out almost all of my savings' value. Aside from a few lucky individuals, the millennial generation is mostly experiencing the same thing, plus massive college debt due to government interference in college pricing.
If your son is 32 and you were 28 when he was born, that puts you at 60 years old. You are part of the Boomer generation, which is said to be the wealthiest generation America has seen. You should just consider yourself fortunate and appreciate your success in life. The expectation of all who follow you matching your success is not realistic.
I'm all for personal responsibility when it comes to decisions made in a person's life. However, that doesn't provide a good picture of the group or generation they belong to. A lot of key financial markers show the Millennial generation is in a terrible state. A recent article stated Millennials hold 3% of the US wealth, when Gen X held 6% of the country's wealth at the same age in 2006. Their debt is higher, housing costs are higher, and earnings are lower than previous generations. In short, Millennials are the first generation to fall behind their parents' standard of living.
I don't know what the answer is to fix an entire generation, but it can't be as simple as "work hard" or "get the right job". More Millennials than you know have been doing that, and they still aren't where they should be, financially.
That doesn't change my point. The information you have provided likely puts you in the Boomer generation. A few years older wouldn't change that.
I hate to say this, but he has a lot of catching up to do...
What do you mean by “good ones”?
Ive given up on trying to find someone. Feminism amongst other things have turned women into different creatures. None of them will give me the time of day, much less go on a date. Hookup culture doesnt help things either, and I cant even get traction there.
I work and bust ass, trying to get to a more stable financial setting, Im working on trying to get a place of my own, trying to better myself, etc. Doesnt mean fuck all to women. Oh well, such as life.
Sometimes you find someone when you stop looking. Live your best life and happiness will follow.
I tried the "stop looking" thing. I hasn't worked for me after 10+ years of not looking. I'm getting to the point where a relationship isn't worth my time. I have so much freedom as a single man and don't want to give that up. My brothers and friends who did get married have all been divorced and it wrecked their lives. I think I made the wiser choice.
Focus on yourself.
Thats what Ive been doing
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THE WALLENING
The odds are very good if you don’t mind the goods being very odd.
Many bought into the lie that they can "have it all" - the career at 20-30, and the hubby+kids at 30-40.
Problem is, most discover to their horror that their attractiveness and fertility both start dropping at around 30-35. Then they discover that the 30-35 y/o men who are attractive and have their shit together are chasing and getting 20-something girls.
By the time she's 35, she's either hoping for a rich 50-60 y/o guy, or looking for a simp to settle down with (or desperately chasing guys who want nothing to do with them, or going full feminazi, or becoming so easy that she no longer has any standards...)
Either way, ladies, if you're in your 20s, now is the time to get your best man, and not ride the carousel, yanno?
Biologically, humans were meant to start reproducing in their mid to late teens... and that's what we did up until the 1900's. By 20, the ovaries are sending in the B-squad, and by 30, it's the D-squad. Women waste their best reproductive years being indoctrinated in universities by leftists and feminists, and by the time they get around to actually wanting to have a family, they're at the point that they need fertility drugs to do it. It's no wonder that society now produces weak men, bad women, and the autistic rates are through the roof. We've done this to ourselves.
A woman wants a man who earns as much money or more than she does. Same with prestige. Meanwhile, women are displacing many men from high powered positions reducing the desirable pool of men. It’s a shame because women would prefer to marry a successful man than be a very successful woman, even if they won’t admit it out loud.
As someone who married and divorced a career-minded woman I can tell you that a primary contributor was that I saw zero value in the relationship. She worked all the time so she never cooked and rarely cleaned. We were always dealing with scheduling issues because we both worked a lot. Her job paid like shit compared to mine because it was liberal progressive policy job.
I realized one day there was no reason to be married to someone that literally did nothing to make my life easier and cost me tens of thousands of dollars a year.
If women don't want to be homemakers and want to chase their career, that's fine, but if you're not the breadwinner you need to understand you're bringing nothing to the table. Men are judged based on their ability to provide, and career-minded women are judged by that same standard.
It’s actually pretty simple.
Men want to be needed, it’s a base instinct and desire. So a woman who proves that “she don’t need no man” finds that she never actually gets one. The men all nope the fuck out.
Foreign women. Doing the jobs American woman dont want to do
Most american women now "screw" around until their market value is at rock bottom or they are 35 and hit the fertility wall, or have 2-4 kids by who knows who, and who "always come first". They think a 2-3 year older king would risk 50% of his assets to "put a ring on it" and save them. This has absolutely nothing to do with "having a career". It has to do with "no fault divorce" which allows everyone to violate a signed contract without the violator being held accountable.
Ask a therapist and they will tell you most of their clients are single 30+ women who are drinking themselves to death. Social media was the crack epidemic for white people.
Why would I, a single male, 6+ figs a year want to marry a chick with 4 kids that works at a dollar store or a professional that is a brain washed cunt. Because CCP made it this way.
Any lady pedes wanna holla, PM me.
It's definitely a combination. Women want to focus on their careers before settling down with a family, and men are tired of feminist bullshit. Men don't want toxic women, they want more feminine, friendly women instead. So there definitely are men walking away.
I walked away. The juice isn't worth the squeeze these days.
The family and divorce court system, along with the laws giving women preference over men have basically made it illegal to be a man. Until the system fixes that, women are going to remain single. Not to mention they ruined the economy, making it 10 more difficult for a man to be a provider.
If you're always looking for a better deal....you'll going to miss the real deal....Love the man not the money....
Never found penis envy an attractive trait in a woman.
yes, yes.
Yes.
Getting woman educated and into the workforce has been the priority from the intelligentsia since probably about th mid 90's. College admissions plus diversity programs have catered to woman; this is a natural result. There are other factors too.
i dont find a "career woman" attractive at all! i find a woman who is feminine , but knows how to get shit done, and has a stable job, attractive. fuck this "boss babe" shit. that's an insta boner killer to me.
btw, the lady in the article has nasty ass feet lol.
Been sold a lie.
I don't see this prediction coming true.
I think it’s also economic pressures. Think about how much these single women are working for the government taxwise.
Why shouldn’t they view that as a primary relationship?
That’s if we’re not invaded first
I've gone solitary monk and I used to be slut maker supreme. Once I realized what was happening, what I was doing, what it had done to me, and what it was doing to society... such is the fallen state.
Wow. What a catch they all missed out on. 😅
Its so funny right? Hilarious. Just so fucking funny.
People don't understand.
This countries history is puritanical authority after another, save the founders. Each era had its owns rigid morality. Each era created their own enemies in the next, restricting rights of the individual, by gov or social structure. Conform or you can't play has been the standard. Last gens moral hacks created this gens rebellious hippies, and both want undue authority.
That's why this happened. Not enough people in this country want liberty. Every time there is a societal issue or disagreement, the gov is always asked to rule. Music, clothing, credes, media, religions, etc. Everyone wants something banned. No one wants to accept what they are to move passed it.
Such is the fallen state.
Those in the risen state, are excluded from my synopsis.
Women decide who they sleep with.
Men decide who they marry.
Chose wisely, ladies.
Boomers focused all their energy for the past 20 years or so pumping girls up to be independent and have careers, while letting boys “figure it out.” Well they didn’t, and if you’re white and a boy you were taught that you have to take a back seat to everyone else.
And they make this into a “poor women :(“ issue as always, but they could easily start relationships with the dirtbags they fuck on Tinder, they want their husbands to be rich though. No wonder so many men are becoming trannies, but yeah the women with good jobs are the victims haha
Yes.
"Yes"
Women, for the health of the child, should have their kids in their 20s. By their 30s good men are either married or burned in a divorce... the burned guys are not going to remarry. By 39 it is pretty much over for women. No men interested or available. Not going to have kids...
I am a woman who has spent the last 10 years saving herself. And I will admit. I am jaded. absolutely. I am not anti man. I am anti soy boy. Be the brawny paper towel man.
I have maintained myself. I do my make up. I do my hair I take time for me. But I have lived my life on my own. I don't NEED anyone. I WANT someone. and people do not seem to understand the difference.
I am asking for a person who can say the same... And it seems like the two pools I get to swim in are: 1. men who have not bothered to maintain themselves and think I should simply be happy to be addressed by their presence. or 2. so socially inept and scorned by OTHER women they have no idea how to actually interact with a lady.
The last soul who had the confidence to ask me out had not yet bothered to introduce themselves. and I'm sorry..but who are you?
Can you really blame them when society has warped romance, dating, and sex into some game of swiping left and right? The few who are successful at the game stop playing by their mid-late 20s because they know their shallow physical attractiveness degrades past that. That leaves the two categories you mentioned, and both are "losers" at playing the game.
Best of luck to you. I hope you find what you are looking for.
I can not blame them. But I hate it all the same.
lol women created soyboys, reap what you fucking sow you miserable cunts. The majority of women destroyed masculinity for the sake of feminist bullshit, no more “boys will be boys”
You created this mess, and most men are satisfied being porn addicted losers, since women are ultimately not much more than masturbation machines in the age of no families.
and here you are. sounding like SUCH a catch.
I am willing to bet I would rather know I am alone than give that pile of toxicity a second look.
Damn, playa... Save some pussy for the rest of us!
(I get the frustration, I seriously do, but unless you go full MGTOW, some optimism towards the fairer sex is going to be required...)
Masturbation machines? Sheesh. You sound like the male version of Dwarkin. No wonder everyone gives you a hard pass.
You forgot that one trad-con.
The ugly ones sure....
Some of both, but I would blame men more than women. Due to wages staying flat for decades, and ever increasing taxes, it is difficult to support a family on one income and has been for a while, so women having jobs isn't necessarily the reason. While some women want a career over family, they are in the minority. Most want a family. I think it is more an issue with this generation of young men being skittish of marriage for a variety of reasons. Perhaps they don't feel they have the maturity to be a husband or father, or perhaps since they can get the sex without the ring, why take on all of that extra red tape? Probably one of our big challenges as a society is to get this next generation to see the value in marriage and family.
"wage staying flat for decades" is such bs. purchasing power has consistently gone up, with the only difference being that now people buy a lot more junk. you dont need an iphone every year, you don't need a new dress for every occasion, you dont need a decorative bookshelf with decorative books and decorative fake plants etc, etc. having a family will always be a sacrifice. the reason people used to make that sacrifice is because children would entertain them, but now that everyone is glued to their screens they no longer need the entertainment of children.
also, increasing taxes is the fault of women. men are innately more conservative, and thus are against things like welfare that increase taxes enormously, while women are the opposite. women got the vote, and used it to raise taxes.
agree about fear of marriage. divorce rate is enormous, so it's hardly surprising.
'maturity' is too subjective to argue either way about it, but the rise of technology is certainly wiring brains for short-term rewards over long-term rewards
men have always wanted to bang every woman they see since the beginning of time. evolutionarily, it is the male's role to impress the female, and the female's role to deny or accept the man.
"children would entertain them"
What? You think that is why people have children?
"agree about fear of marriage. divorce rate is enormous"
I was suggesting they were afraid of marriage because the responsibility terrified them, not the fear of divorce. Speaking of divorce though, the divorce rate in the U.S. is declining (see link below). Also, you seem to think that if it is somewhat high overall, that it will be high for you. Nonsense. You have control over your destiny, and if you want a marriage to succeed, you put in the work to find a good woman, to be a good husband, a good father, and your chances of a successful marriage are much higher than average.
Having said that, marriage isn't for everyone, and maybe it isn't for you. It can be hard, and plenty of guys out there that couldn't do it even if they wanted to.
https://www.census.gov/library/stories/2020/12/united-states-marriage-and-divorce-rates-declined-last-10-years.html
"You think that is why people have children?"
yes. ask yourself, why do third world countries have enormous birth rates while western countries dont even have enough to maintain the population number. humans are biologically wired to get hits of dopamine by having children. if that wasn't the case, humans would have died out long ago. the internet provides more dopamine than having children ever can.
'responsibility' is another buzzword; its subjective. it doesn't mean anything if you dont go into detail. one could say they have enough responsibility to not get married.
also, its utterly ridiculous to say a 15% divorce rate shouldnt be seriously considered when deciding whether to get married. its a very high number !! divorces fuck up peoples lives immensely. would you jump out of a plane if you had a 15% chance of dying?