posted ago by KuhlooKuhlay ago by KuhlooKuhlay +8 / -0

Fuck it. Start using their language against them. Seriously, if a ton of Dems contested 3 out of the last 5 elections (2000, 2004 and 2016) and a ton of Republicans want to contest the last election..... ALL OF THE SUDDEN WE'RE THE CRAZY ONES???

In all honesty, use the above talking point. There have been irregularities, odd details, etc. ~80% of the elections since I have been eligible to vote! This should be something we can agree on meaning: voter ID, add'l voter registration scrutiny, voting machine audits and the like.

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henri_derelicte 1 point ago +1 / -0

And heavy restrictions on who can get a mail in ballot, even during a pandemic.

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KuhlooKuhlay [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

I mean if they insist on having mail-in then we need to start insisting on add'l security measures that prevent fraud. Likewise with whatever machines count the votes we need to insist on paper trails, audits, etc.

It's one thing to give them what they want its another to allow a complete free for all.

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henri_derelicte 2 points ago +2 / -0

If they’re so confident in the security of the elections and its outcome, then they would have no problem consenting to an audit. Audits are intended to add trust and credibility to something by having an independent party review and scrutinize everything

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KuhlooKuhlay [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

This is what we should've pivoted to already. It's amazing how dumb politics is sometimes.

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henri_derelicte 1 point ago +1 / -0

Part of the reason governments oppose audits is a because it only adds to the cost of compliance. Nevertheless, the irregularities we witnessed in the 2020 election necessitate audits to restore public trust in the elections

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KuhlooKuhlay [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

Well that's an incredibly weak ass excuse for the "tax and spend" party but yeah there is that.

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RandoBudster 1 point ago +1 / -0

The National Guard can only be the vote counters

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KuhlooKuhlay [S] 0 points ago +1 / -1

I don't care who counts as long as their is physical evidence that can be audited later on that will verify the counts. It honestly shouldn't matter who counts if the system is overwhelmingly transparent. But of course as it stands now of course it makes a yuge difference who counts the votes precisely because it is not transparent.