Never give up. I'm old. Do you know how easy it would be for me to sit back and say I quit. Chances are I won't live long enough for it to get really bad. Reality is it's not about me. I'm a patriot. I was raised to salute the flag, that pledge of allegiance I made actually means something and that the united States of America is the greatest country on the planet. To sit back and let it fall goes against everything I believe in. My sweet little granddaughter at 10 years old is truly the most innocent loving person I have known in my lifetime. She is so inherently good she doesn't see evil in anyone or anything. She can and will find good in every situation. I cannot/will not let them destroy her and the other innocents like her. I will do whatever is necessary to take my country back! Stand up! Make the commitment! If our fore father's had given up we wouldn't have a country. NEVER back down. You are a patriot!
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Engineers used to be very independent and creative. Now they are pumped through the system in great numbers and want to be "professionals". They value their linked-in profiles and spend a lot of time networking. Many want to get out of design work and get into management. They think they ought to be directors at age 30. Most have no interest in engineering (as in designing things, solving problems, prototyping things, understanding how everything works).
In the 1970's, engineering classes were far smaller, and the characters (mostly men) were quite independent. Often they studied math/physics before they decided to get into applied science. Electrical, Civil, Mechanical had common courses until about half way though the program -- so even an electrical engineer understood thermodynamics. The trend now is to differentiate much earlier.
Now universities take engineering classes right out of high school with predictable results. Things like single digit grades in important courses, but getting passed anyway when they challenge it.
I find science and math students to be more free thinking than modern engineers.