I’m a little too angry still to give my own update, so I’m going to let (one of) the only patriots left in Arizona stand in for my post. I’ll add a bit later. I haven’t watched it yet even, but it’s Sonny Borrelli, he’s an honest Patriot. I will give some extra bits soon in this thread. Need to cool off.
Thank you for what you do. Thank you for your sacrifices. We the people know the Republic is at stake. You may not hear our voices, but we support you. Thank you
The Maricopa Office of the Recorder issued a new letter tonight singing the praises of the two Dominion-related auditors and saying they will be live-streaming the audit online via webcams..!
For future reference, if you want to get a protest, the person to contact is Liz Harris.
Liz Harris, a Arizona State Rep, with some of her volunteers and other concerned citizens, are holding a rally in front of the AZ Statehouse today, Wednesday December 30, 2020 at 6:00 PM.
She is smart, knows many people she could recruit, and would keep the small protest in line. Have you talked to her yet? She is a friend of Bobby Piton. She is very thoughtful and a tireless activist.
Guys, I got a few days left, these sham audits the board believe will satisfy the judge (and the people). The legislature don’t have the votes for a resolution of holding the board in contempt, but could have the sergeant at arms get the machines and ballots for them- if they have the vote for that. Kelli Ward is backpedaling slightly already (let’s talk about socialism instead bullshit)
Boyer is being recalled, Board are too.
But if no audit is done, a lot of things are fucked. Audits in 15 other states, defamation lawsuits bankrupting almost every MAGA figure including Trump and his family (probably wouldn’t bankrupt them but very close), censuring Trump (not sure what that does but Dems think it’ll stop him from holding office ever again), most importantly Dominion 2.0 spreading to 12 more states.
We have a citizen lawsuit possibility, that’s still months out.
What do I do? We need to be contacting the legislature, attorney general, board of Supervisors, the recorder, freaking everyone round the clock, but what more can I do?
I want to organize a protest at the MCTEC building during the fake audits. How could I get enough AZ pedes to get that done peacefully? They want to livestream the audit, make it look official, I think a few pedes there to say it’s fake will do the trick
I thought the second audit already started? They denied political parties and their representatives the ability to observe anyway so it isn't even close to official. They also are only looking at a hand full of ballots handpicked by the board anyway. Speak to the guys at WeThePeopleAZAlliance that are doing the recalls. Try to contact Shelby Busch if you want to organize a protest.
Yes it has, SLI are in now. Don’t mean anyone can stop the audit, but more looking to highlight its inherent fraudulence. At this point, I’m looking into using a proxy to file suit against the state of Arizona for a purity of vote playbook a la Bailey vs. Michigan. Another group are looking to do it, but after speaking more with them, the firm are serious, but it comes with a serious price tag that I’m unsure they could raise the capital to do so.
I got the number, financially it’ll hurt me, bad, but I cannot let this bullshit continue. If I have the chance, I’ll take it. I made good money on converting my personal finances to crypto back in 2013, I guess I’ll take it as paying it forward if I need to.
I am going to talk to a few other groups though to see if fund raising could work with a few investors, the public, and me.
We need to be very careful about the money as I am sure you agree. You were just mentioning a few days ago about the shady social media fundraising. Lots of patriots would contribute to the cause, but the money handler would be tempted because of how much would come in. Even people who have never stolen a dime in their life. Patriots contributed $200m to the GOP stop the steal and the money was pocketed.
Attorneys can be very shady as you know. Many politicians were attorneys. They get tempted with money even if the are clean or have a good rep. The vetting process would need to be extremely diligent. We don't want another Trump-Cipolone disaster or Trump-Rudy failure. There are also wimp attorneys who can start a case then quickly fold like a cheap suit when threatened by political activists.
defamation lawsuits bankrupting almost every MAGA figure including Trump and his family (probably wouldn’t bankrupt them but very close), censuring Trump (not sure what that does but Dems think it’ll stop him from holding office ever again), most importantly Dominion 2.0 spreading to 12 more states.
Their defamation lawsuits won't bankrupt anyone. I had a friend who was the plaintiff in a defamation lawsuit. He had all the evidence. Slam dunk. Then he had to prove financial loss from damage to his reputation. He couldn't do it.
You already said that the voting machine company is getting contracts in 12 more states. And no state has said it is cancelling its contracts. So even if they had all the evidence they'd be defamed, they can't win any damages.
When a lawsuit is filed seeking a billion dollars in damages it's useless when they can't prove a billion dollars of damage.
But they don't even have the most basic evidence there is nothing wrong with their machines that can be exploited. There isn't just evidence against this, there is absolute proof. The forensic audit was completed.
We have a citizen lawsuit possibility, that’s still months out.
You don't have to wait months. Bailey didn't, right? Good lawyers move quickly. The Class Action in the recent GME-Robinhood case was filed the day of or the day after the scandal broke. Lightning speed in this case must be investigated. You need the right lawyer. Did you ask Deperno for the names of Arizona lawyers who are as fast and competent as he is?
Eh, it’s just with how this political system has been going, I could see a Coomer/Dominion win, and there are some strange things going on with the company that could suggest what amounts to a new can of paint for Dominion, that they could allege the company was bankrupted because of it. It’s extremely shady stuff, I’m no lawyer and don’t pretend to be so I could be 100% wrong in that department. There also is supposedly some environmental business Coomer and Co. have that are getting kickbacks, I’ve done no research yet on it myself, may be looking into that very very soon.
And absolutely, DePerno was the first guy I called upon to help me. Again with this, it’s just a worry that the climate during Bailey will never again exist to speed through a lawsuit to get discovery quickly to audit quickly. The law firm have told me it could be done in weeks even, just money really there on that front. I do have 3 firms that came highly recommended that I’ve sent communications to, maybe one will be a little cheaper.
Sorry, one is Snell & Wilmer. Should recognize them :)
The largest law firm representing the Trump campaign or its allies in post-election litigation challenging votes in key states has withdrawn from an election lawsuit in Maricopa County, Arizona. Associate Presiding Civil Judge Daniel Kiley on Tuesday granted Snell & Wilmer’s request to withdraw as counsel of record for the Republican National Committee. The RNC had teamed-up with the Trump campaign and the Arizona Republican Party in the case, which alleges that Maricopa County incorrectly rejected some votes cast on Election Day.
This is a cause for concern: they withdrew almost immediately:
Snell & Wilmer partners Brett Johnson and Eric Spencer first moved to withdraw on Sunday, a day after the case was filed.
Other law firms can cuck out under media pressure and social media pressure.
Two other large law firms that have represented the Trump campaign in election litigation, Jones Day and Porter Wright Morris & Arthur, have faced an onslaught of online criticism this week from critics who say the cases erode confidence in the democratic process, sparked by a Monday New York Times story focused on the firms' roles.
Obviously it slows down the process. And this case is one where the quicker it is filed and the process quick, the better. The attorneys (and maybe law firm, too) have to be as based and committed as the citizen(s) filing the suit.
Lawyers are supposed to be tough but too many are not as tough as we'd like to think. I respect the one-man army attorneys like Deperno.
I'd be shocked if there isn't at least one based Patriot attorney who isn't champing at the bit to get this case. You know what I'm saying? Every Patriot wants to do something and some Patriots are attorneys.
P.S. There was a GOP legal case some years ago. I forget the issue. The GOP's law firm was a major law firm. It was the type that has 500 attorneys, has been around forever, and everybody knows. Everything looks legit.
They started the case, but not long afterwards, they withdrew. They were criticized for being fickle or uncommitted.
The point is law firm size and reputation don't guarantee commitment.
The GOP must have thought, "It's a major firm and they've helped the GOP before. Let's go with them."
Many attorneys are in it for the money and they don't really care about the politics, or the change to politics that could result from the case. They are more interested in the case than the cause.
This election fraud needs a based lawyer who is more committed to the cause than the case. If they are committed to the cause, they'll be committed to the case.
It goes without saying now it means nothing if a law firm has previously represented the GOP. You've talked about how many fake GOP politicians there are whose basic cause is their parking space not our national security. You can bet there are as many fake GOP lawyers as there are fake GOP politicians.
but could have the sergeant at arms get the machines and ballots for them- if they have the vote for that.
The state is clear on custody of ballots. Borelli was explaining this in the video you posted. This is a very good idea to get the machines and ballots.
Yeah, I wish they’d go that route, I just know the problem is the ballots don’t exist. Originals anyway. The guy who is supposed to have them, state treasurer, is dumbfounded. It’s in the law he gets them, and he said he’d be glad to hand them over.
Like there’s so many laws being broken here it’s absolutely insane
Yes, it’s pretty simple, board of Supervisors were to hand the ballots to the state treasurer after the election, they didn’t. Once the new treasurer came in, he asked and asked and asked, and they told him go away.
Have you seen the story on the town in New Hampshire? They did a hand recount, discovered 6% of gop votes were skimmed off and nobody knows why, how, and nobody in the positions to investigate it are interested.
Sonny Borelli was talking about this in a recent interview. He said it's a class 2 misdemeanor (IIRC).
Like there’s so many laws being broken here it’s absolutely insane
Is Karen Fann talking to the AG asking for him to stop the madness? I think the system is going to break down if laws aren't enforced. He can enforce them. You can't have two months of subpoenas and legal b.s. every time the supervisors break the law.
Update: Didn’t bother to check, my apologies, Boyer was unanimously censured within 30 minutes of the end of the legislative session. Nobodies seen him on the R side, he has however been drafting some bullshit statement to send out I believe tomorrow or the day after, he may realize it’s futile and will only anger people more.
I’ll give it you ahead of time:
“I, Paul Boyer, gave my word to dozens of people last week to hold the Board in contempt, when I went to vote on the same resolution I signed off on, Bill Gates, my long term friend told me I should rethink what I’m doing, so I thought about it, and after thinking about myself and Bill’s long term relationship, and how important school vouchers are, a bipartisan effort I am working on, decided that I should fuck my colleagues and constituents, and cry about my wife getting messaged about how I’m an utter dishonest hack who should have never held a political office above dog catcher, a completely true but hurtful statement to my family. In short, I know my political career is over, but I can still collect tons of bribes- I mean donations to my campaign in the next few years to not just pad my pockets, but help..uh..kids, yeah..kids. Thanks”
Also: I’m sure this will just shock the hell out of most of you, AZ GOP want to move on from the audit “stuff”. Why do we vote for republicans again?
Ward is back peddling a bit. She’s a true politician. They know they don’t have Boyer’s vote so they in their eyes they don’t want to be next in the public sights. Because ultimately, the legislature hold the power, they don’t need to do any of this crap, they could say sergeant at arms, we want the ballots and machines, go get them, the board don’t do it, he arrests them, but little Paul Boyer doesn’t want his friend Gates seeing a jail, tomorrow we’ll see.
Did Ducey actually make a statement or is that just inside information? Ward seems to still want the audit but realizes she can't waste all the AZGOP's energy on this audit since it appears to be going back to court. There really isn't anything the AZGOP can do at this point anyway(I am talking about the affiliate organization. Not the GOP legislators). I do think that she needs to audit her own election if she is concerned about voter integrity and wants a higher chance at getting an audit.
That’s inside, mostly everyone knows about in on the ground though somehow.
And yes she does, but they do, they can simply reintroduce the resolution, or right now send the sergeant at arms to get the things requested as the board have even said the legislature can do it.
We also just got a board defector :). Supervisor Chuchri.
Just him realizing he is apart of a bunch of morons. It doesn’t change anything though. He is still a political subdivision of the state member.
The legislature have the power to do the audit, they don’t need to go to court to beg the judge to ask the board to do what they’re told. A principal at a school doesn’t take the janitor to court over him not wanting to mop the floors, he fires him.
I listened to it, basically said everything I’ve told you guys for the last week. Only thing I’d like to add is the recall will be completed by Friday. That’s how many people are calling to sign up. Most are saying he’ll do one of two things (he hasn’t shown his face)
Say A.) He cannot be involved with the GOQ’ people (thats the dems new favorite term), and switch Democrat. Or just play as the “moderate” guy, and vote with democrats. Act like a martyr and pass bullshit legislation that sounds “morally positive” that works “across the aisle” (hint: school vouchers, this out of touch hack thinks school vouchers will get the patriots off his case). He’s already talking to Cheney so I see this as his game plan.
B.) He resigns and says the former. Don’t see it happening, others do because he’s saying he has safety risks now. I think it’s just as Sonny said, martyr deal. He may resign saying he’s so unsafe or something, I don’t know- don’t see it.
They do plan to talk to him to reintroduce the same resolution, don’t hold your breath.
Second update, little more juicy, just got around to checking my correspondences, appears citizens will be doing it again- I have to be vague because it’s not filed, a group of citizens are suing to audit Dominion, same archetype as Antrim. Worked once, let’s see if it’ll work twice.
The volume of hacking attempts or the number of breaches or even just the fact that the machines were connected to the internet should be enough to get some kind of probable cause. Right? The whole basis of election security is whether it's connected to the internet and as the Col said at the hearing if it's usb drive has been disabled. Just a photo of the hardware should prove that.
Oh, I’m going to speak with the lawyers and see if I’m going to play my ace card and/or give testimony in whatever way, and couple it with exactly the things you’re mentioning. These guys aren’t mopes, I’ve checked cases they’ve done, and they have a stellar record, and a resume of cases that were particularly large in scope and involved a good deal of scrutiny from the media.
Their own user manuals and recorded pitches to states specifically states connection to the internet, and conveniently we pulled John Polous out of his hole to testify, which we can use as evidence to of malfeasance.
There’s a clause in elections called “election purity”. It’s the same thing William Bailey filed suit for and won in Antrim Co., Michigan, so we also have precedent.
This is actually incredibly solid and simple law. Once the allegation is made, we can move to discovery which equals an audit, same move Matthew DePerno did for Bailey.
The other thing is, just like Bailey, we really wouldn’t have to submit any evidence whatsoever- just file the suit and ask for discovery, we get an audit. And we have thousands of William Bailey’s this go around, the people on the ground of Maricopa County, to say they’re angry is an understatement. The recall for the board- people were lined up down the street. The people running it asked the land lord for a bigger building, haha.
I just see it as a way better option than the legislative front, even though there’s a few good people, I have no interest in sitting around twiddling my thumbs getting screwed over and over to the point I’m just waiting (as I was over the weekend) to get screwed, I just had the wrong guy (AG vs a cowardly Republican, how could I have not of guessed that haha).
This is real, has citizen backing, has private funding, has top notch people involved, I’m going to see what the legislature do over this week, if the legislature just goes back to court, I’m going in to the citizen lawsuit full tilt. I can’t let 15 states just go, “oh we don’t want to deal with that”. We can show we can get it done, they’ll follow. That’s what I’ve heard. They don’t want to be first, all cowards, but I’ll head right to Wisconsin myself as soon as this audits done if I have to, again.
I know you say you don't need money, support, funding, etc. but know it has crossed at least one patriot's mind to help support your team. I am sorry that you must be missing your family and your day-to-day life at this point but we are very, very proud of you. There are not enough fighters in this world, and I am grateful that you are still trying to turn over every rock and make this happen - and are willing to go to Wisconsin and do it all again.
We need some hope. Day after day, it feels like we're getting kicked down, over and over.
Yeah, I know the private lawsuit is going but I got more info on the time line, this is months and months and months. The legislature are really the only option and we’re screwed there. I don’t know what options are left here. I may try to convince Wisconsin of doing an audit, or another state, I’m not sure, Arizona really was to be the lynchpin, I said this back when we were still doing Antrim. And we’re at an impasse, we don’t have the votes when we should, and their court case is absurd.
It’s like a principal suing the janitor for not letting him check tests he thinks were cheated on. The janitor has nothing to do with testing at a school, yet here we are, a legislature is in court with a political subdivision asking them “can we please do our jobs!” And the board are going, “no, no you can’t, go away”
Absolutely no avenues legislatively, and they could- 15 democrats and Paul D. Boyer. They tried today to talk to Boyer, he won’t even pick up the phone.
Did you see the bullshit he tweeted:
“And if men are friends, there is no need of justice between them (Paul Boyer and Bill Gates of the Board are friends); whereas merely to be just is not enough—a feeling of friendship also is necessary. Indeed the highest form of justice seems to have an element of friendly feeling in it. (I would never do anything unjust to my friends, fuck my constituents)" Nicomachean Ethics 8.4”
That’s how bad it is. Imagine voting against your constituents, being the most hated man in America, and posting that. I literally want to rip every hair out of my head reading this crap time and time again from god damn republicans, the biggest cowards in the universe.
The private lawsuit is moving though, it’s just slow and we don’t know if a judge may just say no.
So who is in charge of determining when it is time to send your team home? Is there any possibility of the audit happening anyway? Is the BoS going to just keep security around the building until you give up, or could you wait til they go away and then just go in with the blessing /escort of the Senate?
Well we do not have the authority as a team to go in from the legislature as of right now, we have a verbal agreement, and a proposal they were to sign once they had “authority”. And the legislature are doing basically nothing because of Boyer. Waldron left days ago, he was supposed to come back today or tomorrow.
I flew myself out on my own dime, and paid for my lodging on my own dime. I wanted to help the legislature prepare, give them the info, which I did, but we are where we’re are. I would have been repaid for my expenses when the audit went through, that was my plan-
Now I’m just down a couple thousand in expenses. But I don’t want any money from anyone, I just want the audit to be done. I stand to lose a lot more with the deposition I have upcoming for Dominion’s lawsuit, which they may file against me too.
There is a possibility on two- maybe three fronts, I’m waiting till Friday to leave myself. I still will keep in contact with these people to get shit moving, I just cannot leave my family and actual work any longer I’m afraid. If they go to court, I’m just leaving and staying in contact with the private firm that is going to file a lawsuit on the behalf of a citizen, possibly multiple.
The legislature are basically letting the janitor control them, Kelli Ward won’t allow an audit of her election, it’s a mess.
I actually like this audit happening as a citizen group case. It's all about the citizens aka We The People taking back what is their right: a free and fair election.
The people can get their audit and demand laws which make the machine company update and upgrade to higher standards:
Oh the fun part is the damages. We can literally force Dominion out of the state. And we can do that 1 by 1 if these freaking states are filled with spineless corrupt uniparty members. Not entirely too difficult.
Don’t get me wrong, it takes awhile, but it works.
People don’t realize a lot of things of why this audit matters so much beyond just voter transparency in Maricopa.
At this point that is a citizen lawsuit (just one person), I really don’t know what to do on the legal front, besides calling emailing legislature asking why nothing is getting done, you’ve been told over and over an audit would happen they never do anything,
Get setup with Board of Supervisors recall and Boyer’s recall if you’re local
And really peaceful protests need to be set up immediately.
Their own user manuals and recorded pitches to states specifically states connection to the internet, and conveniently we pulled John Polous out of his hole to testify, which we can use as evidence to of malfeasance.
Was this the public hearing or a private deposition?
I think the senators and politicians have heard that machines in general can be hacked, but they either don't know the machines in use in particular can be hacked. It's some nebulous technical idea or possibility that they don't really understand.
Won't that change if you show them the satellite records of precise attacks--all the details and exactly how many votes changed?
If I'm a politician and somebody shows me digital vote theft evidence documented, I pay attention. There's got to be a way to present the evidence as proof, incontrovertible and compelling.
A lot of the presentations by Trump's attorneys either on TV, at hearings, in court, on Twitter or on websites has not been compelling.
And no, we’ve told these guys EVERYTHING, actually more than has been publicly available about the Antrim audit by a lot, it’s not about evidence, they just simply don’t care.
Look, I don't know who you actually are, but what help do you need? I'm in the midwest, but this is so utterly important. The censorship is so blatent now, we need a breakthrough somewhere, and Arizona seems like the closest that could do it. I'm struggling here, feeling helpless. Is there anything we can do for you?
You will not find anything on my username, and if you were able to find my IP, I use a personal VPN located in a state I do not live in, that you will find no record of me in, with a modified user agent that you wouldn’t even know what device I’m actually using. I’m basically telling you, try and try to find me, and you will fail- miserably. I suggest you spend your time doing really anything else.
As far as you know, I’m a 12 year old in Mongolia, you have no evidence besides I correctly guess a lot of things. You could say due to I posted sensitive information no one else would have, like Dominion’s full handbook, and unredacted Antrim report that I “must be an ASOG employee/affiliated with ASOG”, (almost like you DID say this..) you don’t know who else had those to say that. You would be defrauding your viewers / readers to say without a shadow of a doubt I am affiliated with ASOG in any way, and base opinions on Russel Ramsland, Col. Waldron, or anyone affiliated with Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) from my posts on this site.
But, I am offering to speak to you, but know any correspondences to me will be of public record. I am simply offering you a more convenient medium of contact (email).
It looks like the pissed off the wrong person. Not surprising. It was going to happen sooner or later. That's the beauty of sociopaths. They don't know when they take anything too far.
Yes, it’s the same one I’ve been referring to in regards to a lawsuit to do it ourselves. By the party, I think you can tell how willing the republicans were haha.
Upon information and belief, and after due diligence in reviewing the evidence
available, Plaintiff reasonably believes and thereupon alleges, that Defendants, or several of them, contrary to public pronouncements, in violation of law and regulation, and in defiance of criminal laws, excluded all political parties from participation in the audits.
Yes, it’s the same one I’ve been referring to in regards to a lawsuit to do it ourselves. By the party, I think you can tell how willing the republicans were haha.
Dr. Kelli Ward didn't file a lawsuit after the GOP was not invited to the audit? Is that a fact? The one opportunity she has to make a difference in this sh*t show and she did nothing? If true she'll never hear the end of it. She had been doing regular updates by video on Twitter the legislature subpoena.
Not that I know of whatsoever. Kelli Ward from what I’ve seen is back to talking about socialism. All I know of regarding Republican lawsuits is the state leg is going back to court.
I just found out this afternoon the GOP filed an amicus brief with the Libertarian lawsuit the way the AZ AG filed one with the AZ Legislature lawsuit.
What little Republican activists have been able to observe from the livestream of the audit gives cause for concern, with reports of data appearing to be imported and exported to and from the tabulation machines. On February 1st, the Chairwoman of the Maricopa County Republican Committee, Mickie Nieland, made a written request for the Republican Party to have an observer present at the audit, which, like the request made by the Libertarian Party, was unlawfully denied. Exhibit E. This despite the County’s assurance that political party observers were invited to attend. Exhibit 4 to Plaintiff’s Complaint. These concerning events underscore the need for preliminary injunctive relief before yet more damage to public confidence is done.
UPDATE: Well guys, every machine was just effectively wiped.
Not a huge deal to get around if you know what you’re doing, but I bet Sen. Peterson and Borelli wouldn’t be happy to know there’s evidence tampering going on.
SB1408 + Judge Joseph Mikitish = Win
Yeah, definitely not a good idea to tell them how to correctly destroy the evidence. Would recommend deleting all between "...wiped." and "Not a huge deal..."
You know best, of course, but we're concerned that whatever you tell us via open channel also gets back to them if they're paying attention and they can't ALL be stupid. As Napoleon (iirc) said, "it's bad form to correct your enemies when they're making a mistake." :)
Absolutely understandable. Trust I know very intimately what my posts do, and there is usually multiple reasons my posts are made, not only to inform, but other things as well at the same time. The only time I have not kept this in mind was post Boyer’s vote, that was a huge shot to the back. But we will prevail.
Since CBS, ABC15, and someone close to the board read your posts similar to how Qtards follow Q posts YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DELETE THIS. 13 year old weoponized autist Mongolian on a pro-Trump shitpost board seems to know a lot.
I’m not the only one who knows this. I was actually told this by other people. You’ll probably see reports on sites about this soon, it’s not knowledge I only have or can be identified down to one person.
Also, maybe I guess things correct a lot, if any news outlet tries to connect this username to ANYONE, they will be sued for libel.
Yes, one person, they said the problem with AZ is a combination of covid laws, legally registering for the area for the protest, and impact. I couldn’t stay any longer, leaving tomorrow (Tuesday), but I am not giving up on Arizona.
I would think at this point a court order to stop and have the senate start examining the machines in an oversight capacity because of tampering. I don’t know why the treasurer doesn’t have possession. None of this appears legal that the board is doing, yet they are doing it.
I hope the other states are watching the conduct of everyone involved which makes them so much more suspicious for what we are suspecting happened on Nov 3rd
Oh I know a lot of PEOPLE who care, but people who can change things? Not many. Maybe 2-3. And HOW they care about it is lacking. But maybe they’re right in their thinking that nobody will stop them, I’d like to believe however if we keep pressing forward someone will either be forced to or want to.
I just had this idea: What about Florida? Or some other state that already went to Trump? Pick a state with a Republican governor, republican legislature, and that already went to Trump, so there is no pressure of 'flipping' the electoral votes (that ship has sailed.)
But all that needs to happen is for ANY state to show that their machines were hacked, that there were outside forces altering votes, even if it didn't change the overall outcome, it will PROVE it happened in one state (even one county), and it can be compared to the results from Antrim.
I'm sure someone has already thought of this, but I just thought of it myself. Like you've said before, Arizona has been the lynch pin that will start the dominoes falling if those machines are proven to be exploited. Are there other friendly states that may be interested? Florida has been in the news, and he has been pushing back hard against the White House, and it made me think Florida might be a candidate.
Anyway, keep up the fight. Let us know if there is anything we can do to contribute to the cause.
Ah the problem is the republicans fuck us worse than the democrats do. At least you know the Dems will screw you, the republicans pretend to be your friend and do the same. I’ve had enough Brian Kemp’s and Doug Douchey’s to Paul Benedict Boyer’s and Brad Corruptburger’s to simply rely on party affiliation for results. Romney and Trump are both R’s but couldn’t be farther away from one another on the political spectrum among other metrics.
And we proved Antrim County Michigan was, they chalked it up to a glitch. We need a corroboration. New Hampshire has a chance if people step up hard right now. I mean hard.
Wisconsin was very interested, but they’ve already settled on the Brad Raffensberger and Jack Sellers play book after seeing what happened to Boyer. My last talk with one of them was “well what if you don’t find anything?! They’ll want to recall us anyway!”
I said, if you have a credible team and we say we found nothing, the people will believe us because we weren’t afraid before to say we did find something. All people want is a credible team to be given the permissions they need to look, if we look and find nothing they will know we tried and that’s the result. But if people know you’re bullshitting them, you will be recalled.
And I found out what he thought of my response shortly after. Let’s go the bullshit route, they won’t know!
The other issue is, there is simply so much misinformation out there, people don’t know what to believe. That’s one of the points of what I’m doing, I want to tell you the truth good bad or indifferent. I’m not going to tell you the German raid blah blah. If people are armed with the truth, these politicians that serve YOU stop what they’re doing. If they got one over here saying this and another over here saying that, they think they can stall you out and pull the wool over your eyes.
Like Kelli Ward in AZ, I said before she’s a great politician- that’s not a compliment. Just watching her remember to smile at all times and repeat talking points, then bring up socialism when people start getting mad to put them back on the hamster wheel of completing nothing and just constantly being afraid.
We need a unified voice of a full forensic audit of the software on all Dominion machines nationwide, and a forensic audit of the original ballots cast in the 2020 presidential election. Period. Done by a credible third party with no horse in the race so to speak.
Green Party Candidate Jill Stein FINALLY won her groundbreaking case that gave her campaign the right to examine voting machine source code in Wisconsin. It took Jill Stein four years to win this court case.
Shouldn't voting machine code be public so everyone can see if it has flaws that allow forced adjudication by unsupervised, biased adjudicators to rig elections?
The Colonel said one machine's code had 10,000 lines of errors. Wouldn't those errors be fixed if the code was public?
Did you see this video that appears to be about the gateway pundit article on the current “audit” being done? It is Ryan H. speaking about their experience at the election center. There has to be a lawsuit here somewhere, right? It appears they are tampering with the machines.
Florida has based people like DeSantis and Gaetz. They might have to recruit similarly based people in Arizona.
Congressional Hearings are needed. It's a national security issue but basically everybody is talking about it as if it's just an election issue.
We don't want a few changes here and there. The whole system needs to be rebuilt. That won't happen unless there are investigative hearings where everything is exposed.
The system allows foreign actors (hardware company) to breach the system (take vote data home, change it, and upload it the next day), but it also allows foreign actors (hackers) to breach the system.
It's outrageous this was allowed in the first place and even more insane it's been allowed for 15 years!
There are some politicians who are vets and take national security seriously. If they actually understood how flawed the system is, they would press for a aggressive congressional inquiry.
No more asking CEOs to appear at a state legislature hearing and letting them cancel at the last minute.
There are military intelligence officers, retired and active, who can make the case for a complete system overhaul. There are probably 75,000,000 Americans who would support the congressional hearings that force the system to be changed from top to bottom.
Where do we go from here? I've never been active in local politics, other than voting every election and primary. I know nothing about how to create email/mail/calling campaigns, but I also know I cannot just keep working my job, living my life, and doing nothing because I KNOW that is just accepting that the system is rigged and I chose to do nothing.
Prior to this, I knew there was stuff happening on the edges of the elections, and that there were established state actors that had their own agendas, but I can't unsee this stuff. I can't unknow it. I do not want my kids growing up in a slave state.
Did you see the lawsuit vs. Dominion and Zuckerberg?
The lawsuit alleges that Dominion Voting Systems burdened the equal protection and due process rights of all voters in the 2020 presidential election. The Plaintiffs contend that Dominion’s voting machines do not record the vote expressed by the voter, are associated with known risks of hacking and high error rates that can cause vote changes, do not produce a convincing public record, and are unable to be effectively audited to ensure results.
The ASOG Report concludes:
Dominion Voting System is intentionally and purposefully designed with inherent
errors to create systemic fraud and influence election results. The system
intentionally generates an enormously high number of ballot errors. The electronic
ballots are then transferred for adjudication. The intentional errors lead to bulk
adjudication of ballots with no oversight, no transparency, and no audit trail. This
leads to voter or election fraud. Based on our study, we conclude that The
Dominion Voting System should not be used in Michigan.
Then it says at #203:
the numerous reports, articles and statements made by prominent political
figures, newspaper articles, television news shows, and multiple interviews
over the last 15 years indicating the unreliability of said software and
voting machines, many of which included warnings that the software and
voting machines, herein used, created a treat to the national security of the
United States.
Fifteen years! What kind of country lets this b.s. go on for 15 years and in 2019 Georgia gives them a $150 million contract? Un-f'g believable!!
What is Poulos going to do at the deposition?
"What software changes have you made in the last 15 years to remove security flaws?"
"Um."
"What changes did you make after Hursti's report on security flaws in 2019?"
"Um."
"What changes did you make after the Antrim report on security flaws in 2021?"
Unlucky for him the police can't stop a recall. Haha.
It's always funny watching people lie when they think they are convincing people they aren't. There was an election guy in GA like that in 2020. Every time he spoke I was alternating between laughing and cringing.
having someone from the BoS doesnt help the resolution to pass. it is nice someone from the BoS is standing up for an audit... at least we hope they do, until they turn again at the last minute so they too can be a martyr
Do you think it is possible that Karen Fann could reintroduce the resolution of contempt again or if the Board buckles under pressure or a judge or since they want to go back to court?
I'm not a legal expert but unless the jugde is absolutely corrupt the legislators will still win. It is just more time wasting as well as crossing their fingers.
Interesting reading. Paras 101-110 (especially 108) make ASOG look like real buffoons - what the Hell happened in Antrim? How the Hell do we fight their allegations?
Last update before I start on my full outline of my time spent in Maricopa County,
An affidavit has been created basically outlining all the major issues I’ve spoke to regarding the sham audits.
Regarding wireless devices being used, Dominion EMS’s being reset, cameras being shut off that were being used to observe the audit, etc. As well as physical security issues such as doors being left open.
Alright. Ducey and sos who called trump supporters Nazis, got it.
They are the ones pressuring the legislature to no take action? Do you think they are sheltering the board of supervisors,too?
I have a question for you and I realize this could be just speculation on your part.
In AZ mail in ballots were given instructions specifically to only use ballpoint pens to fill out the ballots.
In AZ on voting day it was sharpies in booths. Maybe markers too but no pens.
What would you think of this? Is this so they know where the ballots come from or is it so that ballots go to ajudication? Or maybe this doesn't matter?
From all that has been said so far, especially with the excess adjudication issue, my inference is that the Sharpies were provided to make the ballots go to adjudication so they could be mass-assigned to Bidet regardless of whomever they were supposed to be for.
Yes. Peterson is saying it’s an insurance policy, but “people” advised him to stop wasting his time in court when you already know what the outcome will be
okay so what do you think will happen now? Is there anyway you guys will get in there anytime soon? Or is the can getting kicked down the road. Its crazy to think that you guys could have been done by now....
Little update: Boyer fucked another bill in regards to election security (not audit related), and check his Twitter- he confirmed in essence Ducey is pulling the strings.
Yeah, I said this Feb. 2nd they had no clue what they were doing. Mostly checking machines are Dell Latitudes and taking the apart and putting them back together.
Wonder who this Fuckyou guy is? Be a shame anyone had remote access to SLI and dumped data from Maricopa.
I’d have to check but I believe Wisconsin yes, NH no. But like I’ve said before- R’s just serve to stab you in the back, D’s just hold the knife in the front of you when they stab you
Why not get the libertarians like Jill Stein (Green Party) activated? She already did an election suit in WI and won.
Green Party Candidate Jill Stein FINALLY won her groundbreaking case that gave her campaign the right to examine voting machine source code in Wisconsin. It took Jill Stein four years to win this court case.
She could get the audit done much faster. She can't stand the corruption in D and R parties. And she has zero f's to give unlike lots of f'g f'ers.
Some people were saying there was f'ery with the voting machines against the other parties like the Green Party after a close study of the data. I think they would be interested.
I had no idea about this, I’ve only been speaking to republicans. Thanks!
If the Judge rules the Libertarians can send an auditor to monitor the process, and at the same time rules the Republicans can send their own monitor, do they have one who won't get tricked like Jimmy Carter's (Venezuela)?
You've got to check the Libertarian guy's video piece. It's great! He is working with a guy who is totally not going to buy the raft of b.s. from the b.o.s. Here he is:
As you can see, he wants to get the GOP on board because they were also excluded. The GOP has joined in, totally with him; so now you have two parties against the b.o.s., not just the boy's club members at the AZ legislature.
Ducey's plan is collapsing. He's not walking on water for much longer. He needs to cut his losses and move on. The more he fights this the worse he'll sink. He's in quicksand but doesn't know it.
This is actually a REALLY good idea. And it's likely Jill Stein still has some money left from her 2016 fundraiser, she raised a ton more than they needed for the recount.
Absolutely. WTF? There was nothing threatening in what Senator Gray said so, if Gutless Prickman is afraid, it's because he knows he did something wrong and is about to be held accountable.
Let's say he's recalled. Is there a new vote? Using the same machines? (!) Maybe a law change should be first, if so, banning corruptible, hackable machines.
Also, can the supervisors be impeached?
Impeachment at the State Level. At the state level, civil officers who can be impeached include judges, legislators, governors, and other officials throughout the ranks, generally mirroring the federal impeachment process. Several governors have been impeached and eight have been removed from office.
Dr. Lyle said Sonny Borrelli has privately been under a lot of pressure from other people. They didn't say who, and he hasn't caved, of course, but do you know who privately is so against the forensic audit?
You know what I heard yesterday? Most of the voting machine companies are owned by Democrats. We need a Republican or neutral company to build voting machines. We can't just give away the voting space to Democrats. We can make machines that can't access the internet and must have audit logs, etc.
Bobby Piton would be up for this, don't you think? After all the fraud it should also be possible to seed fund it if outside funds are needed.
Eh, I don’t know of what Coomer and Polous’s political leaning was, but we do have Ducey’s and Kemp’s who bought Dominion just as quick as the Murphy’s of the nation.
You've got to get Borrelli working ASAP on new legislation that codifies the advice of election cybersecurity council guidelines to make use of corruptible illegal in Arizona.
Get the forensic audit team advising him and Judicial Chairman Petersen, along with Karen Fann.
This new law will be more powerful than a forensic audit or recall.
Just assume the worst (what you expect you'll find in the forensic audit) and design the law.
We can even hash out right here what we want the law to be and submit it to Petersen and Borelli.
I’ll just say Peterson “likes us “ a lot. Take a look at what he submitted and what I’ve been saying, that the legislature should go “f you, we have the power, no court needed”.
We talk a lot. Borelli is a Patriot, one of the best, but I find what I say leads back to Borelli.
Problem leads back to Boyer though, if we had 16 votes, we’re good. Ducey is trying to kabosh it, Fann is too patient, and Ward is worried about her political career more so than Arizona and the nation.
There were multiple legislatures that didn't even know their powers. It's a bit odd. I like the mindset at times like this, "Act now; ask for forgiveness later." Leadership means leading and not asking for emotional support after each decision or second guessing yourself all the time. Move on principle and let the chips land wherever. There's too much at stake to not look for and seize opportunities.
This case needs leaders not bureaucrats. I like Fann but we need a more aggressive play. She keeps reacting because the other side is always a step or two ahead, playing chess while she is playing checkers. They need to think ahead more and take control of the situation instead of getting walked over and played again.
It's ironic if Ward doesn't see how making a name for herself doing the right thing on a vital issue will win her many points and significant goodwill for years to come. People never forget the person who steps up in a time of crisis.
What about the custodian angle? Borrelli has been talking about this but not acting on it. He needs better legal counsel. The law, he says, requires custody of the stuff by the custodian. Failure is a felony. There is no provision of the law for "litigation" as an excuse to keep the stuff, is there? So get the Marshall to seize and impound everything stuff tonight! No votes. No meetings. No discussions. Action!
Oh they know their powers they just don’t want to use them. It’s all biding time in hopes the populace give up or stop caring. They just had to care a bit for guys like Peterson of Borelli who actually give a shit. Fann is nice but not right for the job. Their should have been no court, no talks, it shouldn’t have been an ASK for the ballots and machines, it should have been a DEMAND for the ballots and machines. The legislature hold all the power. It’s like the police subdivision saying, nah, we don’t care about murders. You think they take them to court they did that?
And I don’t even get what’s going on with the state treasurer, he’s now on his 4th request for the ballots, now they’re not even giving responses. By law he was to get them 2 months and 1 week ago.
But Peterson, you call his office and he has time he will talk to anybody and LISTEN. He’s a great man. Borelli is a true champion of the people as well. Never met anyone close to either of them in how serious they take their roles, and the voices of their constituents.
And I don’t even get what’s going on with the state treasurer, he’s now on his 4th request for the ballots, now they’re not even giving responses. By law he was to get them 2 months and 1 week ago.
I think you need to focus on this with Sonny Borrelli until you guys figure it out. He understands it somewhat and he's almost there. I believe it's key to the breakthrough.
Figures. He was always a McCain Republican/RINO but unlike McCain, he pretended to be on the Trump train especially in the beginning of 2020 saying he had a special ringtone for his calls. Then after the election, he refused to pick up calls from Trump. Ducey certified the results a few minutes into an election fraud hearing in front of Arizona's state legislators. He immediately lawyered up as well. He showed his true colors when he started engaging with the McCain family.
Just posting that everyone should watch this. Sonny is great. Talks about the fact that Dominion had wifi access and their -own office- on election day at Maricopa to sit there and do whatever they want with the machines.
He also said the building with the ballots and machines is technically a crime scene as they have not allowed anyone the legally-required access since the election. He is really a good guy.
Guys, I got a few days left, these sham audits the board believe will satisfy the judge (and the people).
Did you hear about the sham audit in Venezuela?
They got Jimmy Carter's boys involved. They liked the audit. They put out a big report.
Go to find out, reading the story, they had not only rigged the election but also the audit. They set a rule in the audit that the Carter crew accepted.
What rule was that?
'You can only test the computers we say you can test, not random samples.'
We have a guy who was involved in the Venezuelan elections with Dominion (well, Smartmatic which is Dominion), and Hello Garci scandal giving us data to ASOG.
Pro V&V and SLI are involved in the latter.
Do you have any more info on the Dallas election (2018)? I was looking today. Specifically I'd like to read on the legal challenges Russ talked about because the machine had errors. This could be a good path/precedent for challenging AZ on fraud. I believe he said he was called in because there was a dispute between both sides.
I find it odd that people are relitigating the voting machines or whether they are accessible online or can be hacked. The Dallas case seems to make that a settled and uncontested issue.
I also noticed something on Antrim today. Russ was talking about AZ but mentioned about 6,000 votes were unexplained in MI. Guess how many votes moved in one hack? About 6,000.
It still amazes me that despite all the sophisticated, talented and experienced engineers in America, she still has Third-World-level election security.
If election security is a national security issue and foreign enemies can and have hacked into county election systems, where is the military oversight?
Oh I do, let me dig that up (re: Texas election data). I know I have 2016 and 2018 somewhere.
And I’m not going to make this statement without full evidence, because this is the part where I can get myself in to trouble, but let me set a hypothetical line of questioning to you.
You think our military intelligence in cyber security is pretty good, right?
How would our military cyber security agencies/orgs NOT know about this? It was simple for someone like me to find out who is by no means a tech genius.
If like me you think they are pretty good at their jobs, you would think they do know, and by the deafening silence from these agencies, wouldn’t that logically lead you to posit that if they do know and did nothing, that they were most likely then involved?
Russ's story about how DHS/CISA didn't show up for the meeting to talk about the impending hacked election was alarming. It needs to be amplified. I must dig it up.
I just heard about Wisconsin’s legislature just approved a statewide audit of the election. Anyone have any details on that, and do you know if it will be a deep audit or an affirming audit of the fortified results?
It’s bullshit. I talked about Wisconsin’s flip flopping in another post. It’s not a forensic audit, it’s complete nonsense that will find absolutely nothing.
They'll now calling these fake audits "reviews."
The fake audits started as far back as the infamous Venezuelan scam election, i.e., the first election with this type of software/system. They tricked Jimmy Carter's organization which was supposed to do an independent audit. They approved the election in a big formal report but they were rubes.
As the people who weren't half wits poignantly observed, the "audit" only let the "auditors" check computers the suspects chose instead of random computers.
What could possibly go wrong?
A fake election without a fake audit isn't much good.
Last year, in the run-up to what would be Hugo Chávez’s final election, former U.S. President Jimmy Carter provided the ultimate cover for the late caudillo when he called the Venezuelan election process "the best in the world." Today, as the country roils in the aftermath of a contested election to elect Chávez’s successor, we now know that is not the case.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2013/05/07/jimmy-carter-gets-it-wrong-on-venezuela-again/
The ABC tools were hounding Shelby yesterday and she blasted them in a new video.
Some other idiots claiming to be conservative were running the new Democrat playbook play of questioning her financial motives.
Wempel or whatever that fool over at Washington Post's name is who does media issues also questioned Matt Braynard on financial motives instead of asking him about election fraud last month.
Braynard is clever at dealing with the media. He called out the reporters on Twitter immediately and posted an audio recording on YouTube of his conversation with the reporter to expose her distortion. She changed her tune quickly.
Good to see the resistance is rising and that moron of a governor is going to be recalled next!
I’m a little too angry still to give my own update, so I’m going to let (one of) the only patriots left in Arizona stand in for my post. I’ll add a bit later. I haven’t watched it yet even, but it’s Sonny Borrelli, he’s an honest Patriot. I will give some extra bits soon in this thread. Need to cool off.
Thank you for what you do. Thank you for your sacrifices. We the people know the Republic is at stake. You may not hear our voices, but we support you. Thank you
Trust me I do, keeps me going. Today a win has been made because of you all. Not my win, thank Warren Peterson for listening, OUR win.
The Maricopa Office of the Recorder issued a new letter tonight singing the praises of the two Dominion-related auditors and saying they will be live-streaming the audit online via webcams..!
https://media.patriots.win/post/SPPkOh88.jpeg
Do we need to email this guy too and push for a 3rd party audit? Sounds like they are just covering bases trying to say how "reputable" this will be.
Tell him this audit is bogus, everyone knows it, challenge him to prove otherwise.
We really need a protest
For future reference, if you want to get a protest, the person to contact is Liz Harris.
She is smart, knows many people she could recruit, and would keep the small protest in line. Have you talked to her yet? She is a friend of Bobby Piton. She is very thoughtful and a tireless activist.
No, I am now though!
You got my support as well. If there is any help you need, let us know.
Guys, I got a few days left, these sham audits the board believe will satisfy the judge (and the people). The legislature don’t have the votes for a resolution of holding the board in contempt, but could have the sergeant at arms get the machines and ballots for them- if they have the vote for that. Kelli Ward is backpedaling slightly already (let’s talk about socialism instead bullshit)
Boyer is being recalled, Board are too.
But if no audit is done, a lot of things are fucked. Audits in 15 other states, defamation lawsuits bankrupting almost every MAGA figure including Trump and his family (probably wouldn’t bankrupt them but very close), censuring Trump (not sure what that does but Dems think it’ll stop him from holding office ever again), most importantly Dominion 2.0 spreading to 12 more states.
We have a citizen lawsuit possibility, that’s still months out.
What do I do? We need to be contacting the legislature, attorney general, board of Supervisors, the recorder, freaking everyone round the clock, but what more can I do?
I want to organize a protest at the MCTEC building during the fake audits. How could I get enough AZ pedes to get that done peacefully? They want to livestream the audit, make it look official, I think a few pedes there to say it’s fake will do the trick
https://youtu.be/EBouwgTFZ1M
Great video by Lyle Rapacki detailing the entire ordeal in Arizona.
I thought the second audit already started? They denied political parties and their representatives the ability to observe anyway so it isn't even close to official. They also are only looking at a hand full of ballots handpicked by the board anyway. Speak to the guys at WeThePeopleAZAlliance that are doing the recalls. Try to contact Shelby Busch if you want to organize a protest.
Yes it has, SLI are in now. Don’t mean anyone can stop the audit, but more looking to highlight its inherent fraudulence. At this point, I’m looking into using a proxy to file suit against the state of Arizona for a purity of vote playbook a la Bailey vs. Michigan. Another group are looking to do it, but after speaking more with them, the firm are serious, but it comes with a serious price tag that I’m unsure they could raise the capital to do so.
I got the number, financially it’ll hurt me, bad, but I cannot let this bullshit continue. If I have the chance, I’ll take it. I made good money on converting my personal finances to crypto back in 2013, I guess I’ll take it as paying it forward if I need to.
I am going to talk to a few other groups though to see if fund raising could work with a few investors, the public, and me.
We need to be very careful about the money as I am sure you agree. You were just mentioning a few days ago about the shady social media fundraising. Lots of patriots would contribute to the cause, but the money handler would be tempted because of how much would come in. Even people who have never stolen a dime in their life. Patriots contributed $200m to the GOP stop the steal and the money was pocketed.
Attorneys can be very shady as you know. Many politicians were attorneys. They get tempted with money even if the are clean or have a good rep. The vetting process would need to be extremely diligent. We don't want another Trump-Cipolone disaster or Trump-Rudy failure. There are also wimp attorneys who can start a case then quickly fold like a cheap suit when threatened by political activists.
Yeah I thought about it, went back to the legislative route, it almost 100% will end in people being scammed and I’m not being the coauthor of that.
Their defamation lawsuits won't bankrupt anyone. I had a friend who was the plaintiff in a defamation lawsuit. He had all the evidence. Slam dunk. Then he had to prove financial loss from damage to his reputation. He couldn't do it.
You already said that the voting machine company is getting contracts in 12 more states. And no state has said it is cancelling its contracts. So even if they had all the evidence they'd be defamed, they can't win any damages.
When a lawsuit is filed seeking a billion dollars in damages it's useless when they can't prove a billion dollars of damage.
But they don't even have the most basic evidence there is nothing wrong with their machines that can be exploited. There isn't just evidence against this, there is absolute proof. The forensic audit was completed.
You don't have to wait months. Bailey didn't, right? Good lawyers move quickly. The Class Action in the recent GME-Robinhood case was filed the day of or the day after the scandal broke. Lightning speed in this case must be investigated. You need the right lawyer. Did you ask Deperno for the names of Arizona lawyers who are as fast and competent as he is?
Eh, it’s just with how this political system has been going, I could see a Coomer/Dominion win, and there are some strange things going on with the company that could suggest what amounts to a new can of paint for Dominion, that they could allege the company was bankrupted because of it. It’s extremely shady stuff, I’m no lawyer and don’t pretend to be so I could be 100% wrong in that department. There also is supposedly some environmental business Coomer and Co. have that are getting kickbacks, I’ve done no research yet on it myself, may be looking into that very very soon.
And absolutely, DePerno was the first guy I called upon to help me. Again with this, it’s just a worry that the climate during Bailey will never again exist to speed through a lawsuit to get discovery quickly to audit quickly. The law firm have told me it could be done in weeks even, just money really there on that front. I do have 3 firms that came highly recommended that I’ve sent communications to, maybe one will be a little cheaper.
Sorry, one is Snell & Wilmer. Should recognize them :)
S&W rep'd Trump but withdrew.
This is a cause for concern: they withdrew almost immediately:
Other law firms can cuck out under media pressure and social media pressure.
https://today.westlaw.com/Document/Ief147bd0247611eb8dfbdfeb7526f5c7/View/FullText.html
Obviously it slows down the process. And this case is one where the quicker it is filed and the process quick, the better. The attorneys (and maybe law firm, too) have to be as based and committed as the citizen(s) filing the suit.
Lawyers are supposed to be tough but too many are not as tough as we'd like to think. I respect the one-man army attorneys like Deperno.
I'd be shocked if there isn't at least one based Patriot attorney who isn't champing at the bit to get this case. You know what I'm saying? Every Patriot wants to do something and some Patriots are attorneys.
Well, they filed, libertarian party :).
Udall / Shumway
P.S. There was a GOP legal case some years ago. I forget the issue. The GOP's law firm was a major law firm. It was the type that has 500 attorneys, has been around forever, and everybody knows. Everything looks legit.
They started the case, but not long afterwards, they withdrew. They were criticized for being fickle or uncommitted.
The point is law firm size and reputation don't guarantee commitment.
The GOP must have thought, "It's a major firm and they've helped the GOP before. Let's go with them."
Many attorneys are in it for the money and they don't really care about the politics, or the change to politics that could result from the case. They are more interested in the case than the cause.
This election fraud needs a based lawyer who is more committed to the cause than the case. If they are committed to the cause, they'll be committed to the case.
It goes without saying now it means nothing if a law firm has previously represented the GOP. You've talked about how many fake GOP politicians there are whose basic cause is their parking space not our national security. You can bet there are as many fake GOP lawyers as there are fake GOP politicians.
Yeah, I dropped that entire idea. The libertarians I guess thought it was a good idea, but nah.
The state is clear on custody of ballots. Borelli was explaining this in the video you posted. This is a very good idea to get the machines and ballots.
Yeah, I wish they’d go that route, I just know the problem is the ballots don’t exist. Originals anyway. The guy who is supposed to have them, state treasurer, is dumbfounded. It’s in the law he gets them, and he said he’d be glad to hand them over.
Like there’s so many laws being broken here it’s absolutely insane
Could you share all the ways the chain of custody was broken in az or share a resource that explains it all?
Yes, it’s pretty simple, board of Supervisors were to hand the ballots to the state treasurer after the election, they didn’t. Once the new treasurer came in, he asked and asked and asked, and they told him go away.
Wow. And no one cares?
And then BoS at the same time just pretend to care about the laws as their reasoning for not allowing the legislature to do a forensic audit?
Maddening.
Nope. Other than him, me, and now you. Nobody.
I haven't seen anything about this in the news from anyone. It's almost like they don't want anyone to know. Maybe someone should change that 😎
Maricopa county treasurer, right?
Have you seen the story on the town in New Hampshire? They did a hand recount, discovered 6% of gop votes were skimmed off and nobody knows why, how, and nobody in the positions to investigate it are interested.
Why can't the BoS be arrested for breaking that law?
Because Sen. Boyer is a coward and nobody else cares
Sonny Borelli was talking about this in a recent interview. He said it's a class 2 misdemeanor (IIRC).
Is Karen Fann talking to the AG asking for him to stop the madness? I think the system is going to break down if laws aren't enforced. He can enforce them. You can't have two months of subpoenas and legal b.s. every time the supervisors break the law.
Update: Didn’t bother to check, my apologies, Boyer was unanimously censured within 30 minutes of the end of the legislative session. Nobodies seen him on the R side, he has however been drafting some bullshit statement to send out I believe tomorrow or the day after, he may realize it’s futile and will only anger people more.
I’ll give it you ahead of time:
“I, Paul Boyer, gave my word to dozens of people last week to hold the Board in contempt, when I went to vote on the same resolution I signed off on, Bill Gates, my long term friend told me I should rethink what I’m doing, so I thought about it, and after thinking about myself and Bill’s long term relationship, and how important school vouchers are, a bipartisan effort I am working on, decided that I should fuck my colleagues and constituents, and cry about my wife getting messaged about how I’m an utter dishonest hack who should have never held a political office above dog catcher, a completely true but hurtful statement to my family. In short, I know my political career is over, but I can still collect tons of bribes- I mean donations to my campaign in the next few years to not just pad my pockets, but help..uh..kids, yeah..kids. Thanks”
Also: I’m sure this will just shock the hell out of most of you, AZ GOP want to move on from the audit “stuff”. Why do we vote for republicans again?
I'm in VA too. Sent you a PM.
Wait?! What? The AZ GOP if giving up on us too?
Ward is back peddling a bit. She’s a true politician. They know they don’t have Boyer’s vote so they in their eyes they don’t want to be next in the public sights. Because ultimately, the legislature hold the power, they don’t need to do any of this crap, they could say sergeant at arms, we want the ballots and machines, go get them, the board don’t do it, he arrests them, but little Paul Boyer doesn’t want his friend Gates seeing a jail, tomorrow we’ll see.
Also, Ducey told everyone back off.
Did Ducey actually make a statement or is that just inside information? Ward seems to still want the audit but realizes she can't waste all the AZGOP's energy on this audit since it appears to be going back to court. There really isn't anything the AZGOP can do at this point anyway(I am talking about the affiliate organization. Not the GOP legislators). I do think that she needs to audit her own election if she is concerned about voter integrity and wants a higher chance at getting an audit.
That’s inside, mostly everyone knows about in on the ground though somehow.
And yes she does, but they do, they can simply reintroduce the resolution, or right now send the sergeant at arms to get the things requested as the board have even said the legislature can do it.
We also just got a board defector :). Supervisor Chuchri.
Sweet! How did this happen?
Just him realizing he is apart of a bunch of morons. It doesn’t change anything though. He is still a political subdivision of the state member.
The legislature have the power to do the audit, they don’t need to go to court to beg the judge to ask the board to do what they’re told. A principal at a school doesn’t take the janitor to court over him not wanting to mop the floors, he fires him.
WHAT THE HELL IS WRONG WITH HER? SHE WAS THE ONE PUSHING THE AUDIT AND THE COURT CASES BEFORE INNAUGURATION???????????
I listened to it, basically said everything I’ve told you guys for the last week. Only thing I’d like to add is the recall will be completed by Friday. That’s how many people are calling to sign up. Most are saying he’ll do one of two things (he hasn’t shown his face)
Say A.) He cannot be involved with the GOQ’ people (thats the dems new favorite term), and switch Democrat. Or just play as the “moderate” guy, and vote with democrats. Act like a martyr and pass bullshit legislation that sounds “morally positive” that works “across the aisle” (hint: school vouchers, this out of touch hack thinks school vouchers will get the patriots off his case). He’s already talking to Cheney so I see this as his game plan.
B.) He resigns and says the former. Don’t see it happening, others do because he’s saying he has safety risks now. I think it’s just as Sonny said, martyr deal. He may resign saying he’s so unsafe or something, I don’t know- don’t see it.
They do plan to talk to him to reintroduce the same resolution, don’t hold your breath.
Second update, little more juicy, just got around to checking my correspondences, appears citizens will be doing it again- I have to be vague because it’s not filed, a group of citizens are suing to audit Dominion, same archetype as Antrim. Worked once, let’s see if it’ll work twice.
No politicians, one judge, that’s it.
What does a judge need to see to approve? Probable cause? What's the standard?
Can the forensic audit of the satellite data on Bryne's site be used? It shows many hacks into the system and 29,704 votes stolen in Maricopa County:
https://media.patriots.win/post/BoIAXzfO.png
The volume of hacking attempts or the number of breaches or even just the fact that the machines were connected to the internet should be enough to get some kind of probable cause. Right? The whole basis of election security is whether it's connected to the internet and as the Col said at the hearing if it's usb drive has been disabled. Just a photo of the hardware should prove that.
Oh, I’m going to speak with the lawyers and see if I’m going to play my ace card and/or give testimony in whatever way, and couple it with exactly the things you’re mentioning. These guys aren’t mopes, I’ve checked cases they’ve done, and they have a stellar record, and a resume of cases that were particularly large in scope and involved a good deal of scrutiny from the media.
Their own user manuals and recorded pitches to states specifically states connection to the internet, and conveniently we pulled John Polous out of his hole to testify, which we can use as evidence to of malfeasance.
There’s a clause in elections called “election purity”. It’s the same thing William Bailey filed suit for and won in Antrim Co., Michigan, so we also have precedent.
This is actually incredibly solid and simple law. Once the allegation is made, we can move to discovery which equals an audit, same move Matthew DePerno did for Bailey.
The other thing is, just like Bailey, we really wouldn’t have to submit any evidence whatsoever- just file the suit and ask for discovery, we get an audit. And we have thousands of William Bailey’s this go around, the people on the ground of Maricopa County, to say they’re angry is an understatement. The recall for the board- people were lined up down the street. The people running it asked the land lord for a bigger building, haha.
I just see it as a way better option than the legislative front, even though there’s a few good people, I have no interest in sitting around twiddling my thumbs getting screwed over and over to the point I’m just waiting (as I was over the weekend) to get screwed, I just had the wrong guy (AG vs a cowardly Republican, how could I have not of guessed that haha).
This is real, has citizen backing, has private funding, has top notch people involved, I’m going to see what the legislature do over this week, if the legislature just goes back to court, I’m going in to the citizen lawsuit full tilt. I can’t let 15 states just go, “oh we don’t want to deal with that”. We can show we can get it done, they’ll follow. That’s what I’ve heard. They don’t want to be first, all cowards, but I’ll head right to Wisconsin myself as soon as this audits done if I have to, again.
I know you say you don't need money, support, funding, etc. but know it has crossed at least one patriot's mind to help support your team. I am sorry that you must be missing your family and your day-to-day life at this point but we are very, very proud of you. There are not enough fighters in this world, and I am grateful that you are still trying to turn over every rock and make this happen - and are willing to go to Wisconsin and do it all again.
We need some hope. Day after day, it feels like we're getting kicked down, over and over.
Yeah, I know the private lawsuit is going but I got more info on the time line, this is months and months and months. The legislature are really the only option and we’re screwed there. I don’t know what options are left here. I may try to convince Wisconsin of doing an audit, or another state, I’m not sure, Arizona really was to be the lynchpin, I said this back when we were still doing Antrim. And we’re at an impasse, we don’t have the votes when we should, and their court case is absurd.
It’s like a principal suing the janitor for not letting him check tests he thinks were cheated on. The janitor has nothing to do with testing at a school, yet here we are, a legislature is in court with a political subdivision asking them “can we please do our jobs!” And the board are going, “no, no you can’t, go away”
Borelli just talked about custody. There may be a legal avenue to force custody and then subpoena the custodian?
The legal requirement of custody is unequivocal. Those records can't be left in the hands of the supervisors. He needs to get moving on this ASAP.
Is any senator really going to vote to try and block custody of the records to the custodian?
Absolutely no avenues legislatively, and they could- 15 democrats and Paul D. Boyer. They tried today to talk to Boyer, he won’t even pick up the phone.
Did you see the bullshit he tweeted:
“And if men are friends, there is no need of justice between them (Paul Boyer and Bill Gates of the Board are friends); whereas merely to be just is not enough—a feeling of friendship also is necessary. Indeed the highest form of justice seems to have an element of friendly feeling in it. (I would never do anything unjust to my friends, fuck my constituents)" Nicomachean Ethics 8.4”
That’s how bad it is. Imagine voting against your constituents, being the most hated man in America, and posting that. I literally want to rip every hair out of my head reading this crap time and time again from god damn republicans, the biggest cowards in the universe.
The private lawsuit is moving though, it’s just slow and we don’t know if a judge may just say no.
So who is in charge of determining when it is time to send your team home? Is there any possibility of the audit happening anyway? Is the BoS going to just keep security around the building until you give up, or could you wait til they go away and then just go in with the blessing /escort of the Senate?
Well we do not have the authority as a team to go in from the legislature as of right now, we have a verbal agreement, and a proposal they were to sign once they had “authority”. And the legislature are doing basically nothing because of Boyer. Waldron left days ago, he was supposed to come back today or tomorrow.
I flew myself out on my own dime, and paid for my lodging on my own dime. I wanted to help the legislature prepare, give them the info, which I did, but we are where we’re are. I would have been repaid for my expenses when the audit went through, that was my plan-
Now I’m just down a couple thousand in expenses. But I don’t want any money from anyone, I just want the audit to be done. I stand to lose a lot more with the deposition I have upcoming for Dominion’s lawsuit, which they may file against me too.
There is a possibility on two- maybe three fronts, I’m waiting till Friday to leave myself. I still will keep in contact with these people to get shit moving, I just cannot leave my family and actual work any longer I’m afraid. If they go to court, I’m just leaving and staying in contact with the private firm that is going to file a lawsuit on the behalf of a citizen, possibly multiple.
The legislature are basically letting the janitor control them, Kelli Ward won’t allow an audit of her election, it’s a mess.
I actually like this audit happening as a citizen group case. It's all about the citizens aka We The People taking back what is their right: a free and fair election.
The people can get their audit and demand laws which make the machine company update and upgrade to higher standards:
Then the elections are free and fair.
Oh the fun part is the damages. We can literally force Dominion out of the state. And we can do that 1 by 1 if these freaking states are filled with spineless corrupt uniparty members. Not entirely too difficult.
Don’t get me wrong, it takes awhile, but it works.
Fortunately the citizens have some time. There is no longer the high-stress time crunch of January 2021.
How can Maricopa County residents help? Monetary? Petition?
Maricopa County was the 4th largest county in the US in 2019.
Some people don't realize that this is the battleground County
People don’t realize a lot of things of why this audit matters so much beyond just voter transparency in Maricopa.
At this point that is a citizen lawsuit (just one person), I really don’t know what to do on the legal front, besides calling emailing legislature asking why nothing is getting done, you’ve been told over and over an audit would happen they never do anything,
Get setup with Board of Supervisors recall and Boyer’s recall if you’re local
And really peaceful protests need to be set up immediately.
Was this the public hearing or a private deposition?
I think the senators and politicians have heard that machines in general can be hacked, but they either don't know the machines in use in particular can be hacked. It's some nebulous technical idea or possibility that they don't really understand.
Won't that change if you show them the satellite records of precise attacks--all the details and exactly how many votes changed?
If I'm a politician and somebody shows me digital vote theft evidence documented, I pay attention. There's got to be a way to present the evidence as proof, incontrovertible and compelling.
A lot of the presentations by Trump's attorneys either on TV, at hearings, in court, on Twitter or on websites has not been compelling.
Public, look up John Polous Michigan Testimony.
And no, we’ve told these guys EVERYTHING, actually more than has been publicly available about the Antrim audit by a lot, it’s not about evidence, they just simply don’t care.
Lied over and over ...no one cares
Well, the people do. If people stop caring then we have zero chance. If people stop caring kiss every right you have goodbye
Look, I don't know who you actually are, but what help do you need? I'm in the midwest, but this is so utterly important. The censorship is so blatent now, we need a breakthrough somewhere, and Arizona seems like the closest that could do it. I'm struggling here, feeling helpless. Is there anything we can do for you?
Update 2: 2/12
So it seems I've attracted some local news attention from the fine folks at ABC15.
Sir or Madame, you can write directly to me at [email protected].
You will not find anything on my username, and if you were able to find my IP, I use a personal VPN located in a state I do not live in, that you will find no record of me in, with a modified user agent that you wouldn’t even know what device I’m actually using. I’m basically telling you, try and try to find me, and you will fail- miserably. I suggest you spend your time doing really anything else.
As far as you know, I’m a 12 year old in Mongolia, you have no evidence besides I correctly guess a lot of things. You could say due to I posted sensitive information no one else would have, like Dominion’s full handbook, and unredacted Antrim report that I “must be an ASOG employee/affiliated with ASOG”, (almost like you DID say this..) you don’t know who else had those to say that. You would be defrauding your viewers / readers to say without a shadow of a doubt I am affiliated with ASOG in any way, and base opinions on Russel Ramsland, Col. Waldron, or anyone affiliated with Allied Security Operations Group (ASOG) from my posts on this site.
But, I am offering to speak to you, but know any correspondences to me will be of public record. I am simply offering you a more convenient medium of contact (email).
Lastly, if you’d like an immediate response,
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Damn, even 12 year old Mongolian kids know more about the fraud than MSM.
Lol, I turn 13 soon ;)
Update: Feb. 17th Libertarian Party lawsuit against BoS hits the court.
Is it this one or another one?
https://patriots.win/p/12hRUzEwE4/maricopa-county-board-of-supervi/c/
It looks like the pissed off the wrong person. Not surprising. It was going to happen sooner or later. That's the beauty of sociopaths. They don't know when they take anything too far.
Yes, it’s the same one I’ve been referring to in regards to a lawsuit to do it ourselves. By the party, I think you can tell how willing the republicans were haha.
https://lpmaricopa.org/wp-content/uploads/2021/02/MCLP-Complaint.pdf
Dr. Kelli Ward didn't file a lawsuit after the GOP was not invited to the audit? Is that a fact? The one opportunity she has to make a difference in this sh*t show and she did nothing? If true she'll never hear the end of it. She had been doing regular updates by video on Twitter the legislature subpoena.
Not that I know of whatsoever. Kelli Ward from what I’ve seen is back to talking about socialism. All I know of regarding Republican lawsuits is the state leg is going back to court.
I just found out this afternoon the GOP filed an amicus brief with the Libertarian lawsuit the way the AZ AG filed one with the AZ Legislature lawsuit.
https://www.clerkofcourt.maricopa.gov/Home/ShowDocument?id=2281
Did you contact Liz Harris to get activists? She has a pool of 800+. I found her email online.
This came out a few minutes ago. While it's unfortunate a good cause (school vouchers) is the tool and this is the left wing spin on the whole thing, it's still good they're taking Boyer to the woodshed. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/senate-pulls-back-school-voucher-expansion-to-teach-its-sponsor-sen-paul-boyer-a-lesson/ar-BB1dI6k0
Docket:
https://www.clerkofcourt.maricopa.gov/records/election-2020/cv2021-002205
Did you hear the latest? It's unbelievable!
Oh I just had a very busy day for being home, update tomorrow!
UPDATE: Well guys, every machine was just effectively wiped.
Not a huge deal to get around if you know what you’re doing, but I bet Sen. Peterson and Borelli wouldn’t be happy to know there’s evidence tampering going on. SB1408 + Judge Joseph Mikitish = Win
You want to delete this so nobody else is sent in to try again?
Yeah, definitely not a good idea to tell them how to correctly destroy the evidence. Would recommend deleting all between "...wiped." and "Not a huge deal..."
I did so, but there’s reasons and context of why I posted more that I’ll leave out for now.
You know best, of course, but we're concerned that whatever you tell us via open channel also gets back to them if they're paying attention and they can't ALL be stupid. As Napoleon (iirc) said, "it's bad form to correct your enemies when they're making a mistake." :)
Absolutely understandable. Trust I know very intimately what my posts do, and there is usually multiple reasons my posts are made, not only to inform, but other things as well at the same time. The only time I have not kept this in mind was post Boyer’s vote, that was a huge shot to the back. But we will prevail.
I'm still glad you did, though. Very useful for the readers here. Raw+unfiltered=Internet at its best!
Thank you! Appreciate you my friend!
Since CBS, ABC15, and someone close to the board read your posts similar to how Qtards follow Q posts YOU SHOULD PROBABLY DELETE THIS. 13 year old weoponized autist Mongolian on a pro-Trump shitpost board seems to know a lot.
I’m not the only one who knows this. I was actually told this by other people. You’ll probably see reports on sites about this soon, it’s not knowledge I only have or can be identified down to one person.
Also, maybe I guess things correct a lot, if any news outlet tries to connect this username to ANYONE, they will be sued for libel.
Did you talk to anyone about a protest being set up? Any bites?
Yes, one person, they said the problem with AZ is a combination of covid laws, legally registering for the area for the protest, and impact. I couldn’t stay any longer, leaving tomorrow (Tuesday), but I am not giving up on Arizona.
I would think at this point a court order to stop and have the senate start examining the machines in an oversight capacity because of tampering. I don’t know why the treasurer doesn’t have possession. None of this appears legal that the board is doing, yet they are doing it.
We’re at about 3 crimes nobody cares about.
I hope the other states are watching the conduct of everyone involved which makes them so much more suspicious for what we are suspecting happened on Nov 3rd
There are some of us that care about it, but I'm not even an Arizona resident.
Oh I know a lot of PEOPLE who care, but people who can change things? Not many. Maybe 2-3. And HOW they care about it is lacking. But maybe they’re right in their thinking that nobody will stop them, I’d like to believe however if we keep pressing forward someone will either be forced to or want to.
I just had this idea: What about Florida? Or some other state that already went to Trump? Pick a state with a Republican governor, republican legislature, and that already went to Trump, so there is no pressure of 'flipping' the electoral votes (that ship has sailed.)
But all that needs to happen is for ANY state to show that their machines were hacked, that there were outside forces altering votes, even if it didn't change the overall outcome, it will PROVE it happened in one state (even one county), and it can be compared to the results from Antrim.
I'm sure someone has already thought of this, but I just thought of it myself. Like you've said before, Arizona has been the lynch pin that will start the dominoes falling if those machines are proven to be exploited. Are there other friendly states that may be interested? Florida has been in the news, and he has been pushing back hard against the White House, and it made me think Florida might be a candidate.
Anyway, keep up the fight. Let us know if there is anything we can do to contribute to the cause.
Ah the problem is the republicans fuck us worse than the democrats do. At least you know the Dems will screw you, the republicans pretend to be your friend and do the same. I’ve had enough Brian Kemp’s and Doug Douchey’s to Paul Benedict Boyer’s and Brad Corruptburger’s to simply rely on party affiliation for results. Romney and Trump are both R’s but couldn’t be farther away from one another on the political spectrum among other metrics.
And we proved Antrim County Michigan was, they chalked it up to a glitch. We need a corroboration. New Hampshire has a chance if people step up hard right now. I mean hard.
Wisconsin was very interested, but they’ve already settled on the Brad Raffensberger and Jack Sellers play book after seeing what happened to Boyer. My last talk with one of them was “well what if you don’t find anything?! They’ll want to recall us anyway!”
I said, if you have a credible team and we say we found nothing, the people will believe us because we weren’t afraid before to say we did find something. All people want is a credible team to be given the permissions they need to look, if we look and find nothing they will know we tried and that’s the result. But if people know you’re bullshitting them, you will be recalled.
And I found out what he thought of my response shortly after. Let’s go the bullshit route, they won’t know!
The other issue is, there is simply so much misinformation out there, people don’t know what to believe. That’s one of the points of what I’m doing, I want to tell you the truth good bad or indifferent. I’m not going to tell you the German raid blah blah. If people are armed with the truth, these politicians that serve YOU stop what they’re doing. If they got one over here saying this and another over here saying that, they think they can stall you out and pull the wool over your eyes.
Like Kelli Ward in AZ, I said before she’s a great politician- that’s not a compliment. Just watching her remember to smile at all times and repeat talking points, then bring up socialism when people start getting mad to put them back on the hamster wheel of completing nothing and just constantly being afraid.
We need a unified voice of a full forensic audit of the software on all Dominion machines nationwide, and a forensic audit of the original ballots cast in the 2020 presidential election. Period. Done by a credible third party with no horse in the race so to speak.
WI would be a peach of a case, because:
Shouldn't voting machine code be public so everyone can see if it has flaws that allow forced adjudication by unsupervised, biased adjudicators to rig elections?
The Colonel said one machine's code had 10,000 lines of errors. Wouldn't those errors be fixed if the code was public?
Did you see this video that appears to be about the gateway pundit article on the current “audit” being done? It is Ryan H. speaking about their experience at the election center. There has to be a lawsuit here somewhere, right? It appears they are tampering with the machines.
https://youtu.be/gjNZtvAwka4
Florida has based people like DeSantis and Gaetz. They might have to recruit similarly based people in Arizona.
Congressional Hearings are needed. It's a national security issue but basically everybody is talking about it as if it's just an election issue.
We don't want a few changes here and there. The whole system needs to be rebuilt. That won't happen unless there are investigative hearings where everything is exposed.
The system allows foreign actors (hardware company) to breach the system (take vote data home, change it, and upload it the next day), but it also allows foreign actors (hackers) to breach the system.
It's outrageous this was allowed in the first place and even more insane it's been allowed for 15 years!
There are some politicians who are vets and take national security seriously. If they actually understood how flawed the system is, they would press for a aggressive congressional inquiry.
No more asking CEOs to appear at a state legislature hearing and letting them cancel at the last minute.
There are military intelligence officers, retired and active, who can make the case for a complete system overhaul. There are probably 75,000,000 Americans who would support the congressional hearings that force the system to be changed from top to bottom.
Where do we go from here? I've never been active in local politics, other than voting every election and primary. I know nothing about how to create email/mail/calling campaigns, but I also know I cannot just keep working my job, living my life, and doing nothing because I KNOW that is just accepting that the system is rigged and I chose to do nothing.
Prior to this, I knew there was stuff happening on the edges of the elections, and that there were established state actors that had their own agendas, but I can't unsee this stuff. I can't unknow it. I do not want my kids growing up in a slave state.
Did you see the lawsuit vs. Dominion and Zuckerberg?
https://www.dominionclassaction.com/
I didn’t, that’s very interesting..
I’d need to know how reputable those people involved are though.
The Antrim Report is at #174:
Then it says at #203:
Fifteen years! What kind of country lets this b.s. go on for 15 years and in 2019 Georgia gives them a $150 million contract? Un-f'g believable!!
What is Poulos going to do at the deposition?
"What software changes have you made in the last 15 years to remove security flaws?"
"Um."
"What changes did you make after Hursti's report on security flaws in 2019?"
"Um."
"What changes did you make after the Antrim report on security flaws in 2021?"
"Um."
All that is necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing.
BOYER UPDATE: he just said nobody told him the board would go to jail. and has a full police protection detail assigned to his entire family.
This guy is such a lying sack of shit I cannot begin to explain to you how stupid that defense is.
Can he go to jail?
Unlucky for him the police can't stop a recall. Haha.
It's always funny watching people lie when they think they are convincing people they aren't. There was an election guy in GA like that in 2020. Every time he spoke I was alternating between laughing and cringing.
I mean he can’t go to jail, he can be recalled though pretty quick.
We also have a defector to match Boyer’s defection, Chuchri of the board of sup.
having someone from the BoS doesnt help the resolution to pass. it is nice someone from the BoS is standing up for an audit... at least we hope they do, until they turn again at the last minute so they too can be a martyr
Do you think it is possible that Karen Fann could reintroduce the resolution of contempt again or if the Board buckles under pressure or a judge or since they want to go back to court?
No. We don’t have the votes. Court will take months, and they think the 2 fake audits will satisfy the judge.
What exactly does that mean?(churchri)
Interesting - so Churchri is having a change of heart?
Update: funny reading material (boards lawsuit against legislature)
https://beta.documentcloud.org/documents/20473840-maricopa-complaint-plus-exhibits-2-5-21
This is so sad to read - that people actually believe these things.
I'm not a legal expert but unless the jugde is absolutely corrupt the legislators will still win. It is just more time wasting as well as crossing their fingers.
Interesting reading. Paras 101-110 (especially 108) make ASOG look like real buffoons - what the Hell happened in Antrim? How the Hell do we fight their allegations?
Last update before I start on my full outline of my time spent in Maricopa County,
An affidavit has been created basically outlining all the major issues I’ve spoke to regarding the sham audits.
Regarding wireless devices being used, Dominion EMS’s being reset, cameras being shut off that were being used to observe the audit, etc. As well as physical security issues such as doors being left open.
More on this though soon.
Thank you for all you're doing and fighting for. I've held off commenting for a few days as I have just been so down thinking about it all.
Guys, unfortunately I plan to head home Tuesday, but we have not lost. There is still hope.
I think tomorrow I’m going to write up a very detailed post on the happenings in Phoenix during my time here.
Arizona- your problem is Ducey. Screw the board, screw the legislature, this is Ducey and his SoS.
Alright. Ducey and sos who called trump supporters Nazis, got it.
They are the ones pressuring the legislature to no take action? Do you think they are sheltering the board of supervisors,too?
I have a question for you and I realize this could be just speculation on your part.
In AZ mail in ballots were given instructions specifically to only use ballpoint pens to fill out the ballots.
In AZ on voting day it was sharpies in booths. Maybe markers too but no pens.
What would you think of this? Is this so they know where the ballots come from or is it so that ballots go to ajudication? Or maybe this doesn't matter?
From all that has been said so far, especially with the excess adjudication issue, my inference is that the Sharpies were provided to make the ballots go to adjudication so they could be mass-assigned to Bidet regardless of whomever they were supposed to be for.
UPDATE:
Myself and others did some convincing today.. Thank you to Warren Peterson, and Shelby (wethepeopleazalliance.com)
Don’t ask how, just read my posts and read what happened, not hard to figure out haha
https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/1R/proposed/S.1408PETERSEN.pdf
2 steps forward, 1 and 1/2 back, were on the first step back forward.
I was watching the Judiciary vote on a bunch of bills but I missed this one. Do you know how it turned out, did it pass?
So is this is a away for them to get around having to vote?
Yes. Peterson is saying it’s an insurance policy, but “people” advised him to stop wasting his time in court when you already know what the outcome will be
okay so what do you think will happen now? Is there anyway you guys will get in there anytime soon? Or is the can getting kicked down the road. Its crazy to think that you guys could have been done by now....
That looks great! Don't know if the "retroactive" part can stick but the rest looks like just what they need to avoid future goat ropes like Maricopa.
Absolutely, it’s an insurance policy, but the retroactive part was OUR insurance policy (grab the machines and ballots whenever we please).
So why can't they go and grab them now since the bill was passed? Or was it just proposed without a vote on it?
The latter
Just got back, will be making a new post
Little update: Boyer fucked another bill in regards to election security (not audit related), and check his Twitter- he confirmed in essence Ducey is pulling the strings.
Someone should start a recall of that piece of shit..
Which one? 😆
Boyer recall is already available.
Ducey is coming soon ( paperwork has been filed)
How many signatures do we need to recall Boyer ? As far as Governor is concerned, thats quite a high bar to achieve, almost impossible.
https://wethepeopleazalliance.com/recalls
Active recalls
Paul boyer 26,000 Katie Hobbs ( sos) 583,172 Doug Ducey 594,111
Board of supervisors Jack Sellers (District 1) 106,133
Steve Chucri (District 2) 106,093
Bill Gates (District 3) 110,110
Steve Gallardo (District 5) 49,570
CALL BOS PRICKMAN (his surname was Hickman, it is now Prickman) at 602-506-7642.
Ask him to stop spending time on dicks, and start spending time on real audits.
Update: https://i.ma.ga/CnVFC.png
What did I say he’d say and what did he say? Lol.
I thought this was little Billy Gates. Nope, Ducey and his SoS. Make Kemp and Raffensberger look like Batman and Robin.
URL doesn't load?
I don't know if I am the only one but it appears that the link is broken.
Update: Well, I got epoch to come. Still not happy they screwed me on the Antrim data, but happy to finally have media putting out the facts
Did you see this from Gateway Pundit today? https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/02/breaking-exclusive-auditors-selected-arizona-maricopa-county-board-supervisors-send-message-observers-f/
Now I have! There’s a good bit of stuff that’s wrong there, but they have the gist.
Yeah, I said this Feb. 2nd they had no clue what they were doing. Mostly checking machines are Dell Latitudes and taking the apart and putting them back together.
Wonder who this Fuckyou guy is? Be a shame anyone had remote access to SLI and dumped data from Maricopa.
Thank you Senator Borrelli and the other Senators of Arizona who voted to hold the BoS in contempt - you are brave and true patriots.
Looks like Boyer is on his way out.
Update: amendment to 1408 coming. Wonder what it’ll address? :)
So any other major updates? Are we any closer to getting the audit or we still at step one?
I will be posting one once I get home. Kind of an overview with some extras.
And the problem in Arizona simply lies with a war between Peterson and Boyer. Will Boyer vote right on 1408? Or will it be back to court wasting time?
And Wisconsin now want no parts of us atm, may change. New Hampshire theres a possibility. Still fighting for Arizona. I won’t quit.
Are Wisconsin and NH majority R legislatures?
I’d have to check but I believe Wisconsin yes, NH no. But like I’ve said before- R’s just serve to stab you in the back, D’s just hold the knife in the front of you when they stab you
Why not get the libertarians like Jill Stein (Green Party) activated? She already did an election suit in WI and won.
She could get the audit done much faster. She can't stand the corruption in D and R parties. And she has zero f's to give unlike lots of f'g f'ers.
Some people were saying there was f'ery with the voting machines against the other parties like the Green Party after a close study of the data. I think they would be interested.
I had no idea about this, I’ve only been speaking to republicans. Thanks!
If the Judge rules the Libertarians can send an auditor to monitor the process, and at the same time rules the Republicans can send their own monitor, do they have one who won't get tricked like Jimmy Carter's (Venezuela)?
You've got to check the Libertarian guy's video piece. It's great! He is working with a guy who is totally not going to buy the raft of b.s. from the b.o.s. Here he is:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEYa7Mmq04I
As you can see, he wants to get the GOP on board because they were also excluded. The GOP has joined in, totally with him; so now you have two parties against the b.o.s., not just the boy's club members at the AZ legislature.
Ducey's plan is collapsing. He's not walking on water for much longer. He needs to cut his losses and move on. The more he fights this the worse he'll sink. He's in quicksand but doesn't know it.
This is actually a REALLY good idea. And it's likely Jill Stein still has some money left from her 2016 fundraiser, she raised a ton more than they needed for the recount.
One small update (but again, the equivalent of a "strongly worded letter" - Boyer was censured last night just before midnight.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1359002154061557761.html - text here
https://patriots.win/p/12hRCJ9T4X/resolution-to-censure-az-state-s/c/
Oh thank god, thanks for posting this.
I was a Phoenician over 2 years and still love Phoenix , AZ . I can't believe what happened in the Valley of the Sun last year in the election.
If his resignation can get us full forensic audit - so be it!
https://youtu.be/HfPaTV025bI
Just what the fuck.
I’m going to refer to Supervisor Hickman as Supervisor Ball-less Gutless Prick. This is why the gloves come off on both sides.
Absolutely. WTF? There was nothing threatening in what Senator Gray said so, if Gutless Prickman is afraid, it's because he knows he did something wrong and is about to be held accountable.
He knows he will be recalled and they think they have a base of support (Dems)
Let's say he's recalled. Is there a new vote? Using the same machines? (!) Maybe a law change should be first, if so, banning corruptible, hackable machines.
Also, can the supervisors be impeached?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Recall_election#United_States
Dr. Lyle said Sonny Borrelli has privately been under a lot of pressure from other people. They didn't say who, and he hasn't caved, of course, but do you know who privately is so against the forensic audit?
Gov. Ducey.
Love it! Borelli not caving to the governor. BASED!
Did you ever see this great speech by Borelli?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oi0vVsT6-Xk
P.S. What's the risk to Ducey when the forensic audit happens?
Same as Kemp, anyone who took up Dominion’s proposal most likely also received kick backs from their eco company.
Have you seen Edward Solomon's analysis of the election fraud? Do you think you can prove his theory with the data you get from an audit in Maricopa?
Absolutely and yes. We can already prove it, and did, with the Antrim data.
You know what I heard yesterday? Most of the voting machine companies are owned by Democrats. We need a Republican or neutral company to build voting machines. We can't just give away the voting space to Democrats. We can make machines that can't access the internet and must have audit logs, etc.
Bobby Piton would be up for this, don't you think? After all the fraud it should also be possible to seed fund it if outside funds are needed.
Eh, I don’t know of what Coomer and Polous’s political leaning was, but we do have Ducey’s and Kemp’s who bought Dominion just as quick as the Murphy’s of the nation.
Oh boy, Coomer has stage 4 TDS x1000 he's insane. There was a facebook post in 2016, he's insane
Coomer is far left. Forget Poulos.
You've got to get Borrelli working ASAP on new legislation that codifies the advice of election cybersecurity council guidelines to make use of corruptible illegal in Arizona.
Get the forensic audit team advising him and Judicial Chairman Petersen, along with Karen Fann.
This new law will be more powerful than a forensic audit or recall.
Just assume the worst (what you expect you'll find in the forensic audit) and design the law.
We can even hash out right here what we want the law to be and submit it to Petersen and Borelli.
Are you down for that?
I’ll just say Peterson “likes us “ a lot. Take a look at what he submitted and what I’ve been saying, that the legislature should go “f you, we have the power, no court needed”.
We talk a lot. Borelli is a Patriot, one of the best, but I find what I say leads back to Borelli.
Problem leads back to Boyer though, if we had 16 votes, we’re good. Ducey is trying to kabosh it, Fann is too patient, and Ward is worried about her political career more so than Arizona and the nation.
Petersen seems easy to talk to.
There were multiple legislatures that didn't even know their powers. It's a bit odd. I like the mindset at times like this, "Act now; ask for forgiveness later." Leadership means leading and not asking for emotional support after each decision or second guessing yourself all the time. Move on principle and let the chips land wherever. There's too much at stake to not look for and seize opportunities.
This case needs leaders not bureaucrats. I like Fann but we need a more aggressive play. She keeps reacting because the other side is always a step or two ahead, playing chess while she is playing checkers. They need to think ahead more and take control of the situation instead of getting walked over and played again. It's ironic if Ward doesn't see how making a name for herself doing the right thing on a vital issue will win her many points and significant goodwill for years to come. People never forget the person who steps up in a time of crisis.
What about the custodian angle? Borrelli has been talking about this but not acting on it. He needs better legal counsel. The law, he says, requires custody of the stuff by the custodian. Failure is a felony. There is no provision of the law for "litigation" as an excuse to keep the stuff, is there? So get the Marshall to seize and impound everything stuff tonight! No votes. No meetings. No discussions. Action!
Oh they know their powers they just don’t want to use them. It’s all biding time in hopes the populace give up or stop caring. They just had to care a bit for guys like Peterson of Borelli who actually give a shit. Fann is nice but not right for the job. Their should have been no court, no talks, it shouldn’t have been an ASK for the ballots and machines, it should have been a DEMAND for the ballots and machines. The legislature hold all the power. It’s like the police subdivision saying, nah, we don’t care about murders. You think they take them to court they did that?
And I don’t even get what’s going on with the state treasurer, he’s now on his 4th request for the ballots, now they’re not even giving responses. By law he was to get them 2 months and 1 week ago.
But Peterson, you call his office and he has time he will talk to anybody and LISTEN. He’s a great man. Borelli is a true champion of the people as well. Never met anyone close to either of them in how serious they take their roles, and the voices of their constituents.
I think you need to focus on this with Sonny Borrelli until you guys figure it out. He understands it somewhat and he's almost there. I believe it's key to the breakthrough.
But even if Boyer grew a conscience and decided to join the good guys, that still wouldn't be enough to overcome a Douchey veto, would it?
Well I don’t think Douchey will veto it, he’s telling them to stop trying though. If Boyer voted the right way we’d have it.
Ward is a political show girl to the max, she’s unbelievably good at bullshitting. She never forgets to keep smiling and repeating talking points.
Figures. He was always a McCain Republican/RINO but unlike McCain, he pretended to be on the Trump train especially in the beginning of 2020 saying he had a special ringtone for his calls. Then after the election, he refused to pick up calls from Trump. Ducey certified the results a few minutes into an election fraud hearing in front of Arizona's state legislators. He immediately lawyered up as well. He showed his true colors when he started engaging with the McCain family.
Just posting that everyone should watch this. Sonny is great. Talks about the fact that Dominion had wifi access and their -own office- on election day at Maricopa to sit there and do whatever they want with the machines.
He also said the building with the ballots and machines is technically a crime scene as they have not allowed anyone the legally-required access since the election. He is really a good guy.
Did you hear about the sham audit in Venezuela?
They got Jimmy Carter's boys involved. They liked the audit. They put out a big report.
Go to find out, reading the story, they had not only rigged the election but also the audit. They set a rule in the audit that the Carter crew accepted.
What rule was that?
'You can only test the computers we say you can test, not random samples.'
LoL!
We have a guy who was involved in the Venezuelan elections with Dominion (well, Smartmatic which is Dominion), and Hello Garci scandal giving us data to ASOG. Pro V&V and SLI are involved in the latter.
Do you have any more info on the Dallas election (2018)? I was looking today. Specifically I'd like to read on the legal challenges Russ talked about because the machine had errors. This could be a good path/precedent for challenging AZ on fraud. I believe he said he was called in because there was a dispute between both sides.
I find it odd that people are relitigating the voting machines or whether they are accessible online or can be hacked. The Dallas case seems to make that a settled and uncontested issue.
I also noticed something on Antrim today. Russ was talking about AZ but mentioned about 6,000 votes were unexplained in MI. Guess how many votes moved in one hack? About 6,000.
It still amazes me that despite all the sophisticated, talented and experienced engineers in America, she still has Third-World-level election security.
If election security is a national security issue and foreign enemies can and have hacked into county election systems, where is the military oversight?
Oh I do, let me dig that up (re: Texas election data). I know I have 2016 and 2018 somewhere.
And I’m not going to make this statement without full evidence, because this is the part where I can get myself in to trouble, but let me set a hypothetical line of questioning to you.
You think our military intelligence in cyber security is pretty good, right?
How would our military cyber security agencies/orgs NOT know about this? It was simple for someone like me to find out who is by no means a tech genius.
If like me you think they are pretty good at their jobs, you would think they do know, and by the deafening silence from these agencies, wouldn’t that logically lead you to posit that if they do know and did nothing, that they were most likely then involved?
Just a thought exercise of course.
I hear you.
Russ's story about how DHS/CISA didn't show up for the meeting to talk about the impending hacked election was alarming. It needs to be amplified. I must dig it up.
I just heard about Wisconsin’s legislature just approved a statewide audit of the election. Anyone have any details on that, and do you know if it will be a deep audit or an affirming audit of the fortified results?
It’s bullshit. I talked about Wisconsin’s flip flopping in another post. It’s not a forensic audit, it’s complete nonsense that will find absolutely nothing.
That’s what I thought, the more I read about it. It sounded more like checking if they followed all procedures and so on.
They'll now calling these fake audits "reviews." The fake audits started as far back as the infamous Venezuelan scam election, i.e., the first election with this type of software/system. They tricked Jimmy Carter's organization which was supposed to do an independent audit. They approved the election in a big formal report but they were rubes. As the people who weren't half wits poignantly observed, the "audit" only let the "auditors" check computers the suspects chose instead of random computers. What could possibly go wrong? A fake election without a fake audit isn't much good.
Here he is making a fool of himself:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IE-6X4iRv3Q
So much cringe.
One more reason why citizen legal action for forensic auditing is probably better when politicians aren't smart.
The ABC tools were hounding Shelby yesterday and she blasted them in a new video.
Some other idiots claiming to be conservative were running the new Democrat playbook play of questioning her financial motives.
Wempel or whatever that fool over at Washington Post's name is who does media issues also questioned Matt Braynard on financial motives instead of asking him about election fraud last month.
Braynard is clever at dealing with the media. He called out the reporters on Twitter immediately and posted an audio recording on YouTube of his conversation with the reporter to expose her distortion. She changed her tune quickly.
Good to see the resistance is rising and that moron of a governor is going to be recalled next!
Momentum is a beautiful thing...