Actually, there were 213 million registered voters with 66.9 percent voting, which equals 143 million voters. But there were supposedly 156 million votes. Here's the proof.
Actually, your data source (while certainly closer to the truth than the OP's meme) isn't quite accurate and the numbers are used in less than relevant ways.
For example:
I live in Texas so I clicked on their reference link to the Texas SoS site.
The table in the link you provided shows 16,211,198 registered voters in Texas.
However, if you click their link to the actual Texas SoS site, they clearly show 16,955,519 registered voters. A difference of -744,321 (4.6% low).
Additionally deceptive, your source references the total estimated full population of Texas (29,730,300). Not the actual voting age population (21,596,071) which is certainly more relevant.
Next, I just randomly picked Florida.
Clicking on their link to the Florida DoS site, Florida says there were 14,565,738 registered voters on 12/31/20 but your data source only reflects 14,065,627. Another difference of -500,111 (3.6% low). And again, there comparing that to the estimated total population of Florida (21,944,600) rather than the more relevant number of voting age Floridians which is not provided in the DoS data.
I didn't dig any deeper but finding two pretty substantially low reporting errors (totaling -1,244,432 registered voters) suggests the prospect there may be other substantial errors in the report from that source.
I know data can REALLY be a PITA.
Data is what I do and I tracked the election and thousands of data points related to it.
If I may respectfully offer a suggestion for you, avoid .com sources.
Or at least double check the data against .gov or .org (that rely on .gov) sources.
"World Population Review" sounds like it would be a decent source, but there is no information for "about..." No indication about who they are. Clearly a commercial site with click ads and while their numbers are closer to accurate than some, in a data driven world, if we want to use data to make decisions and judgements, I find it usually better (although more time consuming) to go the sources, or at least to randomly double check some data points to qualify it.
According to "United States Election Project" (http://www.electproject.org/2020g)
In 2020: There were ~257,605,088 voting age Americans. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters (registered) There were 159,690,457 actual votes So, this is: A 61.99% participation by voting age Americans A 66.74% participation by eligible voters.
Nice summary thanks! Do you also make infographics? Would love to start spamming people with infographics that are accurate. Love the spirit of OP’s meme, but I also want a meme/infographic that withstands fact checking
I've been known to produce a graphic or two in my day.
Graphics that withstand fact-checking are always key and when factual, transcend "propaganda" in the realm of truth.
For me, the term "propaganda" implies spin, or cherry-picking, or in regrettable cases (such as this meme) falsehoods, (regardless of the spirit) behind it.
Truly persuasive arguments (be they words, numbers, or memes) need to be fact based so they withstand scrutiny by opposition.
Then their response is...crickets.
I would love to see an accurate infographic that shows all the statistical improbabilities and deviances in this election cycle. Also would be great if the infographic somehow managed to show all the “audits” and measures taken to “verify” these improbabilities. Eg: how they threw out cases not based on merit, but on random technicalities. I think an infographic that shows all the irregularities side-by-side with these bullshit court decisions would be quite powerful
OK, well, I've already looked at both of your suggestions, up one side and down the other. Inside and outside and sideways.
"statistical improbabilities and deviances in this election cycle"
Perhaps if you could be more specific about the improbabilities or deviations to which you refer.
What I've already seen, perhaps not everything, pretty clearly, is that while turnout percentage was somewhat high, it was by no means the highest turnout.
While yes, President Trump did have early leads in some states, when you look at the numbers, and the rates of deviation (for example between in-person and mail-in votes) they actually do add up and turn out to be quite probable.
For example, in PA, at one point, while Trump had a big numeric lead, in terms of percent, it really wasn't that big. Particularly when it is understood the disparity between mail-in and in-person voting. And, in PA, since their laws prohibit the mail-in being counted early, and they do count more slowly, it actually was true that the in-person voting came in first but it wasn't enough to beat the deviation in the mail-in votes.
And really, to be 100% honest, Trump (and all his election advisors) knew this would happen even before the election. That's precisely why he railed so loud and aggressively against main-in voting. He knew if democrats were allowed to vote by mail, they would. And they did.
But the deviation between the two were actually not outside probability.
Certainly, there were more mail-in votes, but then this election was very different considering the expanded access due to COVID.
It's a hard thing to accept. I get it.
But the numbers, as reported, align well within probabilities.
Now, from there, there are two remaining possibilities:
The votes cast (even if legitimate) were fundamentally unconstitutional, or
There were actual fraudulent votes.
As for the constitutional question, each state that challenged any one this, wound up agreeing to all of it before the election.
True, some few legislators continued to object, even after the rulings and agreements, there is a very tough fact left remaining that has been left out.
Now don't flame me, because this is truth.
Even though they could, not one single legislature got together and actually voted, even if in a non-binding way, to question or doubt any of their elections.
Again, there were a few individuals protesting, but none of them, ever one time, actually cast a vote in their legislature.
Not one.
And everyone of these disputed states have republican legislatures.
I don't want to speak for you, but for me, it would have said A LOT more if even one of these legislatures actually could get a vote together on the question of fraud in their elections.
I have to admit, that is something that did, and still does, bother me about all these claims.
But maybe I'm off your target topic.
What specific improbability or deviation would you like to portray?
I appreciate your very detailed and well thought out response. I agree with most of the things you say btw. Unlike most of the people here, I remember when we held the left to the standard of “proof of burden for a claim”.
Personally if you ask me, I’m a believer in Occam’s razor. I think that the propaganda machine successfully brainwashed the majority into believing they were fighting against Hitler. This caused them to vote in droves against President Trump. They won the slander/smear war, and we haven’t even acknowledged that fact.
I very much appreciate your comment: “Unlike most of the people here, I remember when we held the left to the standard of ‘proof of burden for a claim’.”
Sadly though, I worry that often I see pedes not applying that same standard to themselves or to the information they consume.
I’m sure you know, we all know, it’s not hard for either side to find information published by someone (in some cases anyone) to support their side.
It takes a great deal of effort, time, and savvy, to research these claims (either way, either side, either opinion).
And, because it takes so much, a lot of people on either side (arguably too many) choose rather to just believe what they’ve seen/read.
It’s too easy that way.
And, truthfully, both sides do this.
Consume information, and believe it as fact, because there is just too many other pressing matters in our lives to spend the time investigating all of it.
And then, both sides will tell the other side, “but our sources are trustworthy and yours are not.”
Some may, perhaps more appropriately, call this “instinct.”
The same kind of instinct that tells a deer not to walk out into a clearing can also tell us what “feels” right and what “feels” wrong.
But the hard realization of that analogy is, the clearing isn’t always dangerous for the deer, and what “feels” right or wrong, isn’t always that way.
It makes me CRAZY to watch people, patriotic people (on both sides), miss these opportunities for these reasons.
Which leads to another controversial topic.
Patriotism and love of country.
People may down vote me, but I am convinced that though they may have different preferences, most people on the left do actually love this country too.
People on both sides serve (and die) in the military, serve and die) in the police, serve (and die) in the hospitals, serve their communities, serve their youth, serve their seniors, and serve in many more ways.
People who serve do it because they care, and if they care, that is because they love the country.
It serves no useful purpose, IMO, for one side to come into any interaction with the other side from a position that the opposing side doesn’t love our country.
Regardless of veracity of the information being exchanged or provided, the other side just isn’t going to listen, period.
Every single time patriotic people are communicating is an opportunity to convince, to persuade.
But for either side to come to such an opportunity unprepared (with validated information), it always end up the same.
And worse, both sides walk away with the impression the other side is “just closed minded.”
The regrettable truth is, neither side came prepared.
Pedes have faith in their information so they already believe it.
But they can’t seem to see, or accept, the other side doesn’t have that same faith. Not yet.
It doesn’t mean they can’t be convinced. But to be convinced, the information presented needs to be in such a form as it can be validated as truthful.
That is the point at which persuasion occurs, people are convinced, and faith is built (the same faith pedes already have).
I’ve seen the graphic from your link and will discuss it next but to avoid the dreaded TL;DR, I wanted to comment on your commendable opening comment from your last reply. Things might not seem so impossible, it more, on both sides, accepted this burden.
What would happen if we started gathering signatures on a letter from We The People instructing the Supreme Court to invalidate this past election and order a complete new election for all federal candidates to be conducted by the local National Guard.
I know you are all thinking - oh pooh, that is not how the Supreme Court operates, you don't directly petition them for something. I say petition them anyway, by the millions and millions. And I ask: Is there one Supreme Court Justice willing to step up and lead us, or all you all willing to PRETEND to be Supreme Court Justices in a Communist Puppet Nation?
I know if we really did this they would call out their goons again to try and beat or scare us into submission. That's all Antifa is their, their paid goons, even the police that back them up.
So let us be willing to take the beating for the sake of our children future and the future of all America's children and put relentless pressure on those 9 Justices.
They're good at finding way to do or not do what they want - let them find a way to do this.
The 133 million registered voters number is WRONG. If you want to make CCP accusations, then attack whoever keeps spreading this particular piece of disinformation instead of getting butthurt because a meme you happen to agree with is disproven.
or 62% if you adjust by other parameters, in any case "turn-out" in 2020 was almost 10% higher than the previous election - and we all know why that is
Eligible voters and registered voters are two different things. Show me the actual numbers of registered voters, not how many people are eligible to vote.
Generally, "eligible" and "registered" voters are the same thing.
Some states use the term "eligible" and some states use the term "registered."
What i think you may be confusing is the people of "voting age."
Differentiated from "eligible" or "registered" voters, the number of "voting age" is always larger than the number of "eligible" or "registered."
According to "United States Election Project" (http://www.electproject.org/2020g) In 2020:
There were~257,605,088 voting age Americans.
There were 239,247,182 eligible voters (registered)
There were 159,690,457 actual votes.
So, this is:
A 61.99% participation by voting age Americans, and,
A 66.74% participation by eligible voters.
I wish this were correct but there were 133 in 2018. The turnout was outrageous this year. the election was totally stolen for sure, but this isn't accurate.
It's kinda disingenuous to review 2020 numbers in the context of other years.
Trump was a HUGE motivator, on both sides of isle.
The big difference between 2016 and 2020 was that BOTH sides had seen 4 years of him in power.
Again, those 4 years were a HUGE motivator either way.
The Dems were counting on a blue wave of anti-trump sentiment to sweep large volumes of Dem Reps and Senators into office.
The data shows there clearly there was not as much down ballot party ticket voting.
But the data also shows much of the "center" (both Blue and Red) had had their fill of Trump. They were apparently happy to maintain a divided congress but change the Admin.
I realize this is a hard perspective for pedes to see/accept/believe, but it isn't as impossible as many project, and the actual data does show it did happen.
What data? The fraudulent numbers vomited out by the left?
EVERY indicator prior to the election, save for the biased polls, showed a sweeping victory for Trump. Voter enthusiasm UP, party loyalty UP, minority voting UP, voter registration numbers UP.
The thing that couldn't be accounted for was the massive mail in ballot dumps. Mail in voting illegally changed during the pandemic scare. And not a single bit of judicial review.
The election was stolen. There is no other reasonable explanation.
This is a very accurate analysis and something I’ve been wondering as well. All the dumbfucks who downvote this kinda stuff are the reason we lost. We need to face the facts.
All the libtards were successfully brainwashed to believe they were literally preventing Hitler and the rise of fascism (by voting him out lmfao). So the combined effect of propaganda + virtue signaling resulted in huge turnouts. People doing their duty to prevent the racist, sexist, fascists from ruling the world. We lost the propaganda war HARD, and yet I don’t see very many people who’ve realized this.
Lol no, that’s not why we lost. We lost because of obvious cheating. Look at all the swing states when vote counting was stopped. Trump was in the lead by margins impossible for Biden to catch up to, let alone beat.
“People like this are why we lost”. People like what? I don’t even know what you’re blaming them for. Because it’s hard for them to believe people in the center voted in droves against Trump despite his approval rating and that people were better off mid-covid than they were four years prior? “We need to face the facts.”? What facts? Facts are nearly impossible to discover/learn/research right now thanks to censorship/blatant omission.
Questioning what we’re told after years of smear campaigns and bullshit narratives we’re told we MUST believe despite any evidence against them isn’t why we lost. Get fucking real dude.
So we had no weaknesses whatsoever? The reason we lost is entirely because our enemies are evil? The reason you guys downvote is because you disagree with all posts that address any of our weaknesses. Why is that?
Of course there was fucking fraud. I’m not debating that. But is that the only reason we lost?
I literally never said we have no weaknesses. We have no idea how relevant those weaknesses were BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING FRAUD. It is impossible to pinpoint areas that need improvement because there is no accurate data.
Trump got, what, 11 million more votes than the first election? That’s a historic margin of additional votes won by a candidate in their second election. He got record votes in minority communities. He gained significant votes in all demographics except white males. Trump did pretty fucking well. And if no fraud occurred, Trump would be president.
Instead of pointing the finger at people so confidently when we have no idea if that contributed to the “loss”, point your finger at the rampant fucking fraud. MANY people started questioning the narratives the media spoon feeds them. MANY people started denying “facts”. WE ALL did that, that’s why we’re Trump supporters. To shit on people for exactly that while ignoring the elephant in the room is retarded.
What does pointing your finger at the fraud committers do? It’s like a child crying to mommy cause your toy got stolen. I’m shitting on people BECAUSE they are just pointing their fingers. Why don’t you people DO something in real life? We lost the election to fraud because we allowed to happen. We allowed it to happen cause we are weak. If we had intelligence and strategy, would the fraud have even happened? I’m not blaming anybody. I just want people to start doing. Less talking more doing. The guy you responded to earlier and downvoted is ACTIVELY STUDYING the statistics. That is more than you did and that’s why I responded the way I did. Enough with the trust the plans and hold the lines. There is no fucking line. Let’s create it
There are WAY more than 133 million registered voters. Why do people keep mindlessly repeating this like sheep? Jesus fucking Christ does anyone bother checking before sharing crap like this?
I'm afraid your argument doesn't hold up. Some states allow registration on election day, at the polling place. There could be millions of people who did that, so the real number of registered voters was higher than the 'known' registered voters.
In 2020:
There were ~257,605,088 voting age Americans.
There were 239,247,182 eligible voters (registered)
There were 159,690,457 actual votes
So, this is:
A 61.99% participation by voting age Americans
A 66.74% participation by eligible voters
Ok, thanks.
The report references numbers from 2010.
Using a rough estimate of the 2020 population of 330,000,000, and "assuming" the same rate of 8% of the overall population have felony records, that would come to 26,400,000.
We don't have any actual published census numbers yet but Ok, we can stipulate to the assumed baseline from 2010.
But what does that have to do with the 2020 election?
This thread is about the election voting numbers.
Well, there may be some challenges with your premise.
There is no U.S. Constitutional obstruction to any convicted person actually voting.
Most states, by state law, actually do allow felons to vote after various points in time or completions of their sentences.
Even if we assumed, incorrectly, felons can't vote (they can in most states), I would think that number of felony restricted people would be demonstrated as part of the difference between "voting age" and "registered" (which is the same as "eligible"). In other words, they don't really break down or categorize the sub-sets of people within the group of people who are of voting age, but don't register. Some may be felons (in 7 states as detailed below), some may have not met residency requirements, some may be institutionalized, etc.
There are only 7 states in which persons convicted of "certain" felonies never regain the right to vote.
Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Wyoming.
But still, I'm not sure how this applies to the actual election?
We would need to see numbers of felons alleged to have voted improperly in any of the 7 contested states. By the way, each of the 7 primarily contested states actually do allow felons to regain (at various points) the right to vote.
But aside from all of that, I wonder if your premise is rather, in your opinion, felons ought not be allowed to vote at all, anywhere.
Is that more representative of your target point?
All I know is that here in Florida it wasn't automatic until we voted to restore them after sentences were served and court ordered restitution was paid.
I really want to make fun of you for saying this out loud, but I am Christian. As such I know it is morally wrong to make fun of retarded people. What do?
Actually, there were 213 million registered voters with 66.9 percent voting, which equals 143 million voters. But there were supposedly 156 million votes. Here's the proof.
Source: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-voters-by-state
Now assume 100% turnout, accurate ballot counting and nothing for third party candidates.
In Hollywood they rely on the suspension of disbelief to sell movies.
Actually, your data source (while certainly closer to the truth than the OP's meme) isn't quite accurate and the numbers are used in less than relevant ways.
For example: I live in Texas so I clicked on their reference link to the Texas SoS site. The table in the link you provided shows 16,211,198 registered voters in Texas. However, if you click their link to the actual Texas SoS site, they clearly show 16,955,519 registered voters. A difference of -744,321 (4.6% low). Additionally deceptive, your source references the total estimated full population of Texas (29,730,300). Not the actual voting age population (21,596,071) which is certainly more relevant.
Next, I just randomly picked Florida. Clicking on their link to the Florida DoS site, Florida says there were 14,565,738 registered voters on 12/31/20 but your data source only reflects 14,065,627. Another difference of -500,111 (3.6% low). And again, there comparing that to the estimated total population of Florida (21,944,600) rather than the more relevant number of voting age Floridians which is not provided in the DoS data.
I didn't dig any deeper but finding two pretty substantially low reporting errors (totaling -1,244,432 registered voters) suggests the prospect there may be other substantial errors in the report from that source.
I know data can REALLY be a PITA. Data is what I do and I tracked the election and thousands of data points related to it. If I may respectfully offer a suggestion for you, avoid .com sources. Or at least double check the data against .gov or .org (that rely on .gov) sources.
"World Population Review" sounds like it would be a decent source, but there is no information for "about..." No indication about who they are. Clearly a commercial site with click ads and while their numbers are closer to accurate than some, in a data driven world, if we want to use data to make decisions and judgements, I find it usually better (although more time consuming) to go the sources, or at least to randomly double check some data points to qualify it.
According to "United States Election Project" (http://www.electproject.org/2020g) In 2020: There were ~257,605,088 voting age Americans. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters (registered) There were 159,690,457 actual votes So, this is: A 61.99% participation by voting age Americans A 66.74% participation by eligible voters.
Nice summary thanks! Do you also make infographics? Would love to start spamming people with infographics that are accurate. Love the spirit of OP’s meme, but I also want a meme/infographic that withstands fact checking
I've been known to produce a graphic or two in my day.
Graphics that withstand fact-checking are always key and when factual, transcend "propaganda" in the realm of truth.
For me, the term "propaganda" implies spin, or cherry-picking, or in regrettable cases (such as this meme) falsehoods, (regardless of the spirit) behind it. Truly persuasive arguments (be they words, numbers, or memes) need to be fact based so they withstand scrutiny by opposition. Then their response is...crickets.
What do you have in mind?
I would love to see an accurate infographic that shows all the statistical improbabilities and deviances in this election cycle. Also would be great if the infographic somehow managed to show all the “audits” and measures taken to “verify” these improbabilities. Eg: how they threw out cases not based on merit, but on random technicalities. I think an infographic that shows all the irregularities side-by-side with these bullshit court decisions would be quite powerful
OK, well, I've already looked at both of your suggestions, up one side and down the other. Inside and outside and sideways.
"statistical improbabilities and deviances in this election cycle" Perhaps if you could be more specific about the improbabilities or deviations to which you refer. What I've already seen, perhaps not everything, pretty clearly, is that while turnout percentage was somewhat high, it was by no means the highest turnout. While yes, President Trump did have early leads in some states, when you look at the numbers, and the rates of deviation (for example between in-person and mail-in votes) they actually do add up and turn out to be quite probable. For example, in PA, at one point, while Trump had a big numeric lead, in terms of percent, it really wasn't that big. Particularly when it is understood the disparity between mail-in and in-person voting. And, in PA, since their laws prohibit the mail-in being counted early, and they do count more slowly, it actually was true that the in-person voting came in first but it wasn't enough to beat the deviation in the mail-in votes. And really, to be 100% honest, Trump (and all his election advisors) knew this would happen even before the election. That's precisely why he railed so loud and aggressively against main-in voting. He knew if democrats were allowed to vote by mail, they would. And they did. But the deviation between the two were actually not outside probability. Certainly, there were more mail-in votes, but then this election was very different considering the expanded access due to COVID.
It's a hard thing to accept. I get it. But the numbers, as reported, align well within probabilities. Now, from there, there are two remaining possibilities:
As for the constitutional question, each state that challenged any one this, wound up agreeing to all of it before the election. True, some few legislators continued to object, even after the rulings and agreements, there is a very tough fact left remaining that has been left out. Now don't flame me, because this is truth. Even though they could, not one single legislature got together and actually voted, even if in a non-binding way, to question or doubt any of their elections. Again, there were a few individuals protesting, but none of them, ever one time, actually cast a vote in their legislature. Not one. And everyone of these disputed states have republican legislatures. I don't want to speak for you, but for me, it would have said A LOT more if even one of these legislatures actually could get a vote together on the question of fraud in their elections. I have to admit, that is something that did, and still does, bother me about all these claims.
But maybe I'm off your target topic. What specific improbability or deviation would you like to portray?
I appreciate your very detailed and well thought out response. I agree with most of the things you say btw. Unlike most of the people here, I remember when we held the left to the standard of “proof of burden for a claim”.
I’ve seen these posts on here:
https://www.udrop.com/hva1/35617FAA-5DA5-431B-9E7E-B950CE375F65.jpeg https://www.udrop.com/dj10/744EC97F-9C16-413A-A43F-2E5FAB20139B.jpeg
What about these irregularities?
Personally if you ask me, I’m a believer in Occam’s razor. I think that the propaganda machine successfully brainwashed the majority into believing they were fighting against Hitler. This caused them to vote in droves against President Trump. They won the slander/smear war, and we haven’t even acknowledged that fact.
I very much appreciate your comment: “Unlike most of the people here, I remember when we held the left to the standard of ‘proof of burden for a claim’.”
Sadly though, I worry that often I see pedes not applying that same standard to themselves or to the information they consume. I’m sure you know, we all know, it’s not hard for either side to find information published by someone (in some cases anyone) to support their side. It takes a great deal of effort, time, and savvy, to research these claims (either way, either side, either opinion). And, because it takes so much, a lot of people on either side (arguably too many) choose rather to just believe what they’ve seen/read. It’s too easy that way. And, truthfully, both sides do this. Consume information, and believe it as fact, because there is just too many other pressing matters in our lives to spend the time investigating all of it. And then, both sides will tell the other side, “but our sources are trustworthy and yours are not.” Some may, perhaps more appropriately, call this “instinct.” The same kind of instinct that tells a deer not to walk out into a clearing can also tell us what “feels” right and what “feels” wrong. But the hard realization of that analogy is, the clearing isn’t always dangerous for the deer, and what “feels” right or wrong, isn’t always that way.
It makes me CRAZY to watch people, patriotic people (on both sides), miss these opportunities for these reasons. Which leads to another controversial topic. Patriotism and love of country. People may down vote me, but I am convinced that though they may have different preferences, most people on the left do actually love this country too. People on both sides serve (and die) in the military, serve and die) in the police, serve (and die) in the hospitals, serve their communities, serve their youth, serve their seniors, and serve in many more ways. People who serve do it because they care, and if they care, that is because they love the country. It serves no useful purpose, IMO, for one side to come into any interaction with the other side from a position that the opposing side doesn’t love our country. Regardless of veracity of the information being exchanged or provided, the other side just isn’t going to listen, period.
Every single time patriotic people are communicating is an opportunity to convince, to persuade. But for either side to come to such an opportunity unprepared (with validated information), it always end up the same. And worse, both sides walk away with the impression the other side is “just closed minded.” The regrettable truth is, neither side came prepared. Pedes have faith in their information so they already believe it. But they can’t seem to see, or accept, the other side doesn’t have that same faith. Not yet. It doesn’t mean they can’t be convinced. But to be convinced, the information presented needs to be in such a form as it can be validated as truthful. That is the point at which persuasion occurs, people are convinced, and faith is built (the same faith pedes already have).
I’ve seen the graphic from your link and will discuss it next but to avoid the dreaded TL;DR, I wanted to comment on your commendable opening comment from your last reply. Things might not seem so impossible, it more, on both sides, accepted this burden.
TL;DR?
Have you seen the way they make kids do math now? Anyone born after 1990 probably doesnt know how to add or subtract.
Yeah it's some weird square shit. Looks like some common (re: commie) core nonsense.
https://patriots.win/p/12hRCJ8Mfw/math-is-racist/
YOINK
What would happen if we started gathering signatures on a letter from We The People instructing the Supreme Court to invalidate this past election and order a complete new election for all federal candidates to be conducted by the local National Guard.
I know you are all thinking - oh pooh, that is not how the Supreme Court operates, you don't directly petition them for something. I say petition them anyway, by the millions and millions. And I ask: Is there one Supreme Court Justice willing to step up and lead us, or all you all willing to PRETEND to be Supreme Court Justices in a Communist Puppet Nation?
I know if we really did this they would call out their goons again to try and beat or scare us into submission. That's all Antifa is their, their paid goons, even the police that back them up.
So let us be willing to take the beating for the sake of our children future and the future of all America's children and put relentless pressure on those 9 Justices.
They're good at finding way to do or not do what they want - let them find a way to do this.
No, the two digit IQ crowd just keeps on reposting the same crap over and over because they think that makes it true.
“Make your homework first and take serious numnbers.”
Please have your CCP shill use a different translator.
The 133 million registered voters number is WRONG. If you want to make CCP accusations, then attack whoever keeps spreading this particular piece of disinformation instead of getting butthurt because a meme you happen to agree with is disproven.
75% of all statistics are made up on the spot. It’s a meme for a reason, Debbie Downer.
This is the number of registered voters I got from here: https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/number-of-registered-voters-by-state
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Still 155 million is 72% of 213 million, which is pretty high and as part of the general voting age population wikipedia has it at almost 67% turnout: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voter_turnout_in_United_States_presidential_elections
or 62% if you adjust by other parameters, in any case "turn-out" in 2020 was almost 10% higher than the previous election - and we all know why that is
And not generally higher right, just in specific places?
oh yes
Eligible voters and registered voters are two different things. Show me the actual numbers of registered voters, not how many people are eligible to vote.
19 million adult felons in America.
Generally, "eligible" and "registered" voters are the same thing. Some states use the term "eligible" and some states use the term "registered." What i think you may be confusing is the people of "voting age." Differentiated from "eligible" or "registered" voters, the number of "voting age" is always larger than the number of "eligible" or "registered." According to "United States Election Project" (http://www.electproject.org/2020g) In 2020: There were~257,605,088 voting age Americans. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters (registered) There were 159,690,457 actual votes. So, this is: A 61.99% participation by voting age Americans, and, A 66.74% participation by eligible voters.
You know what else is a number that is higher? The death tolls in Communist countries.
what are you talking about completely normal election
Regardless how you feel about the guy this video was made a year ago and now it’s coming true.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=zmc9sYb4XL4
follow the science, not the math.
Leftist "science"...."how many fingers do you see?"
Same day registration is how they got away with inflating the total voter turn out to whatever was necessary to win after the election.
I wish this were correct but there were 133 in 2018. The turnout was outrageous this year. the election was totally stolen for sure, but this isn't accurate.
The huge spike in registered voters should be a red flag yet no one is talking about it. It jumped from 133 ish in 2018 to 213 in 2020.
Mail in voting was fraudulent from the start.
It's kinda disingenuous to review 2020 numbers in the context of other years.
Trump was a HUGE motivator, on both sides of isle. The big difference between 2016 and 2020 was that BOTH sides had seen 4 years of him in power. Again, those 4 years were a HUGE motivator either way.
The Dems were counting on a blue wave of anti-trump sentiment to sweep large volumes of Dem Reps and Senators into office. The data shows there clearly there was not as much down ballot party ticket voting. But the data also shows much of the "center" (both Blue and Red) had had their fill of Trump. They were apparently happy to maintain a divided congress but change the Admin.
I realize this is a hard perspective for pedes to see/accept/believe, but it isn't as impossible as many project, and the actual data does show it did happen.
What data? The fraudulent numbers vomited out by the left?
EVERY indicator prior to the election, save for the biased polls, showed a sweeping victory for Trump. Voter enthusiasm UP, party loyalty UP, minority voting UP, voter registration numbers UP.
The thing that couldn't be accounted for was the massive mail in ballot dumps. Mail in voting illegally changed during the pandemic scare. And not a single bit of judicial review.
The election was stolen. There is no other reasonable explanation.
This is a very accurate analysis and something I’ve been wondering as well. All the dumbfucks who downvote this kinda stuff are the reason we lost. We need to face the facts.
All the libtards were successfully brainwashed to believe they were literally preventing Hitler and the rise of fascism (by voting him out lmfao). So the combined effect of propaganda + virtue signaling resulted in huge turnouts. People doing their duty to prevent the racist, sexist, fascists from ruling the world. We lost the propaganda war HARD, and yet I don’t see very many people who’ve realized this.
Lol no, that’s not why we lost. We lost because of obvious cheating. Look at all the swing states when vote counting was stopped. Trump was in the lead by margins impossible for Biden to catch up to, let alone beat.
“People like this are why we lost”. People like what? I don’t even know what you’re blaming them for. Because it’s hard for them to believe people in the center voted in droves against Trump despite his approval rating and that people were better off mid-covid than they were four years prior? “We need to face the facts.”? What facts? Facts are nearly impossible to discover/learn/research right now thanks to censorship/blatant omission.
Questioning what we’re told after years of smear campaigns and bullshit narratives we’re told we MUST believe despite any evidence against them isn’t why we lost. Get fucking real dude.
So we had no weaknesses whatsoever? The reason we lost is entirely because our enemies are evil? The reason you guys downvote is because you disagree with all posts that address any of our weaknesses. Why is that?
Of course there was fucking fraud. I’m not debating that. But is that the only reason we lost?
I literally never said we have no weaknesses. We have no idea how relevant those weaknesses were BECAUSE OF THE OVERWHELMING FRAUD. It is impossible to pinpoint areas that need improvement because there is no accurate data.
Trump got, what, 11 million more votes than the first election? That’s a historic margin of additional votes won by a candidate in their second election. He got record votes in minority communities. He gained significant votes in all demographics except white males. Trump did pretty fucking well. And if no fraud occurred, Trump would be president.
Instead of pointing the finger at people so confidently when we have no idea if that contributed to the “loss”, point your finger at the rampant fucking fraud. MANY people started questioning the narratives the media spoon feeds them. MANY people started denying “facts”. WE ALL did that, that’s why we’re Trump supporters. To shit on people for exactly that while ignoring the elephant in the room is retarded.
What does pointing your finger at the fraud committers do? It’s like a child crying to mommy cause your toy got stolen. I’m shitting on people BECAUSE they are just pointing their fingers. Why don’t you people DO something in real life? We lost the election to fraud because we allowed to happen. We allowed it to happen cause we are weak. If we had intelligence and strategy, would the fraud have even happened? I’m not blaming anybody. I just want people to start doing. Less talking more doing. The guy you responded to earlier and downvoted is ACTIVELY STUDYING the statistics. That is more than you did and that’s why I responded the way I did. Enough with the trust the plans and hold the lines. There is no fucking line. Let’s create it
There are WAY more than 133 million registered voters. Why do people keep mindlessly repeating this like sheep? Jesus fucking Christ does anyone bother checking before sharing crap like this?
I'm afraid your argument doesn't hold up. Some states allow registration on election day, at the polling place. There could be millions of people who did that, so the real number of registered voters was higher than the 'known' registered voters.
Not "millions", but only the facebook-trained people that did the paperwork.....
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In 2020: There were ~257,605,088 voting age Americans. There were 239,247,182 eligible voters (registered) There were 159,690,457 actual votes So, this is: A 61.99% participation by voting age Americans A 66.74% participation by eligible voters
Source: United States Election Project
Those numbers jive if you subtract 19 million felons.
What felons? Data source?
https://news.uga.edu/total-us-population-with-felony-convictions/
Ok, thanks. The report references numbers from 2010. Using a rough estimate of the 2020 population of 330,000,000, and "assuming" the same rate of 8% of the overall population have felony records, that would come to 26,400,000.
We don't have any actual published census numbers yet but Ok, we can stipulate to the assumed baseline from 2010.
But what does that have to do with the 2020 election? This thread is about the election voting numbers.
The post I responded to mentioned 'voting age' adults of which felons are ineligible. It knocks down the total pool of legit votes.
Your figure regarding felons is a bigger number reducing eligible voters.
You have to make grand assumptions about actual voter participation and inerrant ballots. The 'counted' votes are the flag on this entire debacle.
https://ballotpedia.org/Voting_rights_for_convicted_felons
I see.
Well, there may be some challenges with your premise. There is no U.S. Constitutional obstruction to any convicted person actually voting.
Most states, by state law, actually do allow felons to vote after various points in time or completions of their sentences.
Even if we assumed, incorrectly, felons can't vote (they can in most states), I would think that number of felony restricted people would be demonstrated as part of the difference between "voting age" and "registered" (which is the same as "eligible"). In other words, they don't really break down or categorize the sub-sets of people within the group of people who are of voting age, but don't register. Some may be felons (in 7 states as detailed below), some may have not met residency requirements, some may be institutionalized, etc.
There are only 7 states in which persons convicted of "certain" felonies never regain the right to vote. Alabama, Delaware, Florida, Kentucky, Mississippi, Tennessee, and Wyoming.
But still, I'm not sure how this applies to the actual election? We would need to see numbers of felons alleged to have voted improperly in any of the 7 contested states. By the way, each of the 7 primarily contested states actually do allow felons to regain (at various points) the right to vote.
But aside from all of that, I wonder if your premise is rather, in your opinion, felons ought not be allowed to vote at all, anywhere. Is that more representative of your target point?
All I know is that here in Florida it wasn't automatic until we voted to restore them after sentences were served and court ordered restitution was paid.
I really want to make fun of you for saying this out loud, but I am Christian. As such I know it is morally wrong to make fun of retarded people. What do?