Cancelling Keystone Will Boost Carbon Emissions Equal to Nearly 500K More Cars on the Road a Year!
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Environmentalists aren't really concerned about the environment. Their real agenda is to roll back the industrial revolution so that we all live like serfs under the New Feudal Lords graduating from Harvard and Princeton.
Some bureaucratic official from Masschusetts said as much:
Sauce: https://redstate.com/kiradavis/2021/02/05/322524-n322524
These a$$hats haven't even come even remotely close to proving carbon is even a problem for a planet full of CARBON BASED LIFE FORMS.
They also haven't explained why a warmer climate is a bad thing, considering that most of the major advances in civilization have occurred during periods of warmer climate (Roman age, Renaissance, Industrial Revolution) and have gone backwards during colder periods.
It makes me sick when I see Republicans and business leaders going up these fundamental points without even fighting the "settled science".
Bunch of squishes.
All I know is that c02 interacts with radiation exiting back into space and it's this interaction which generates the heat. Everything else, such as flooded cities and runaway greenhouse, is just computer modelling. Like all that COVID bullshit.
Most of the alarmism doesn't even come from scientists it comes from those popular "science" magazines and websites that torture data to push a political agenda.
I think what you are seeing is what happens when the funding for science is controlled by political interests. The money flows to whomever produces a study with the "right results".
Which is sad because if the issue is legitimate, other explanations need to be researched and examined with equitable funding.
It's a gigantic issue for all of research in all fields. Science has sold its soul.
More specifically, the scientists willing to sell their own souls have been given the grants and a platform from which to spout their nonsense (Hi Dr. Fauci), as long as they further the Globalist Agenda.
They are having the same problem mainline churches had. Push out enough of the older, rational, people who just want to do their jobs and bring in the young unwashed useful idiots. The vocal minority seizes the levers of power because that’s all they cared about and everyone else tries to not rock the boat.
Yes, our society got spoiled and fell asleep at the wheel while the tires were stolen Chevy Chase style.
A teenager made a robot that'll clear pastics out the water for next to no cost. When you say "Science has sold it's soul" you're implying science is a thing that belongs to them.
The best science ever happened in someone's back garage, what happened was parents let kids play videogames all day rather than playing with jumper cables and soldering irons. If science was sold out by anyone, it was us.
Think it was Eric Weinstein had a bit about CO2, he said the atmosphere here is like a fish tank with 250,000 fish in it. We're meant to believe that if we add one more fish into the tank the world will end.
Let's start our own environmental movement with solutions based on innovation and free enterprise.
Carbon Capture and Storage and nuclear power are good examples of this. Even if their doomsday warnings are true we hardly need their draconian "solutions."
Before we do that, can we please discuss whether carbon actually needs to be reduced in the first place?
Considering carbon dioxide levels are lower than they have been historically on Earth I think this is a fair question.
Someone's done their homework.
A+.
Trees don't think it needs to.
Trees are very smart people.
smarter than most people, it turns out.
Nuclear is superior to all green energy and other forms.
T. Alien
"Buy Local: Save the Planet"
Even worse, they want to have all of the boons of the Feudal Lord without any of the responsibilities, like having to defend the serfs from physical harm and upload the law. They want to abuse, rape, and Satanic worship to their hearts content without restraint.
They are think themselves as gods among mere mortals. May God remind them the penalty for their idolatry, blasphemy, and hubris.
What I find fucking hilarious is the left still honestly thinks the average lefty will be allowed to live in any of the Utopian smart/green cities the elite have planned. We will all be living in hovels outside their walls cooking with their sewage laden water and we will be told we should be grateful for even being allowed that.
They don't honestly believe in it, they honestly believe they're losers and want any system that brings winners down to their level. That's all it has ever been. Leftists hate fine sculpture, art, music, engineering, they hate people being in a wondrous state, because so long as people have dreams and ambitions there's a risk they'll be left behind with no one but themselves, and that terrifies them.
Good job, Dems!
Just like everything else they do based on emotion, virtue-signalling, and greed, they've harmed themselves and everyone else!
They're like a child starting a fire in their bedroom because "it's too cold in here!" Lord save us.
It has everything to do with appeasing their business interests in the Middle East. Neocons gonna Neocon.
They really are the idiots of this nation.
Not the democrat leaders, because you have to have some sort of brains to be able to control half the population.
i'm talking about the idiot voters. they are all fucking morons.
Perfect analogy!
They know they are hypocrites. They don't care.
The worst part is they'll add that to the total rise in carbon emissions and use that rise to say we need to destroy the economy more in order to reduce emissions.
it has become way nastier and more radical than I would've ever thought in 2000s and 2010s
Exponentially worse. Omg.
The demoralization is working
Pretty much everything Democrat voters believe in they have been manipulated and lied to about to think it is a good thing.
On one hand I am glad I am not retarded and see through all the bullshit. On the other hand having this power does nothing for me. All it does is piss me off with the power of 10000 atom bombs.
Username checks out.
We should keep building anyway fuck Biden! Make him go to war with the unions. This way the unions can get rid of the corrupt leadership and will see how they been played.
but will they? i can't see anything happening because i lost my faith in almost everyone
For me this time is a spiritual awakening. Keep faith in yourself and god, I’ve lost everything but realized Not only can I live without it, I’m better off without it. The truth is there’s very little I can control in this world. All I have is God, confidence in myself, my belief in who the fuck I am and who I want to be. Don’t let this shit get you down inside. Nothing 5 years ago is the same as today. We’ll get past this.
Thanks for that.
lol unions will continue to vote left regardless of this, Biden could literally teabag every higher up of a union and I guarantee they would still vote for him.
I'm sure China will invest in/build a pipeline to get that oil to market.
They did want Canada to build them a pipeline to a western port. Or find a way to ship it there. Notice I said that Canada would have to build/ship it for them, but I'm guessing that will go through now that President-select has slammed the door on that pipeline.
Liberals are bad at math.
1 + 1 = racism.
In clown world it does.
It's never EVER been about saving the environment.
Increasing millions of illegal immigrants and "refugees" into California is an ecological disaster for them as they can't provide water needs for their existing citizens, let alone housing or even POWER.
And yet - they keep increasing the numbers.
Does that sound like a group that wants to save the environment or is more interested in power?
If the end game is to turn them into battery drones with removable organs then it’s win win. Look at what they are openly advocating lately.
You just need to look at the global temps over the last couple hundred thousand years.
The little ice age is over and were at or very near the warming peak and it should start dropping back down into another era of cooling.
They have faith in their religion though that 'the end is nigh'.
Somehow being the crazy person on the street yelling about the end of days has become popular.
This! Look back in the 1700’s around the little ice age and right before you’ll see high temps and patterns not unlike our current ones. We were always being played about global warming.
Democrats can never think beyond step 1; as long as it "feels good".
This is just one of those reasons why conservationists cannot stand environmentalists.
They don't really care about the environment. They care about what feels good. Both fracking and pipelines create pollution at first glance but reduce pollution when used to replace traditional oil or coal. That, and the fact that none of them seem to support nuclear for some retarded reason proves to me they care about the virtue signaling more than the science.
Which is the point. Stop what will lower carbon emissions so then they can say we need extremes to deal with it. All power plays.
Good got to increase emissions so they can then pretend to lower it because of the Paris accord.
But nuclear power's fine? Mining precious materials to make batteries for electric cars and solar panels is fine also right? Or all the wildlife killed by the giant fucking windmills that's fine too? We have to have power that's how the world of the future is run we just have to pick the poison that's going to make that happen.
That's the idea. Get back into the climate treaty with the e u. And china. Fail at meeting the standards. Pay heavy fine. Get kickbacks to friends and family. Friends and family also get contracts to tell american companies how they can fix their problems. Businesses, like those owned by Warren buffet get government funding to implement fixes. Nothing works the way it should. Start again at step 2.
Nah you guys don't get it. They want the pipeline gone and nothing to replace it. No trucks or trains to transport the oil. They don't want the oil here period. They either want us dependent again on foreign oil or force us to rely on sar and wind. Its all about trying to start the eventual ban of fossil fuels
Warren Buffet is in charge of the keystone pipeline too he owns the trains that transport the oil. So he will lose billions once the pipeline is installed.
The thing that absolutely kills me is that map of all the gas pipelines throughout the country. If you can look at that and say the Keystone pipeline is anything but political you are a complete liar.
It’s political not environmental.
But it'll make Warren Buffet money, which is the real point.
But Warren Buffet gets his money, so winning! And now there's a good excuse to jack up all the prices on shit -- more winning!
I've read into this quite a bit. The irony is that the government doesn't actually need to do anything to "curb emissions" because of the natural progression of technology. Stuff like renewable energy technology, electric cars, batteries and so on get better and better so eventually we will transition to these technologies since electric cars are more efficient than ICE cars. So literally, just let the free market do its thing.
For the vast majority of the people all we care about is cheap energy. We don't care where it comes from. The problem is the government is forcing renewable energy too soon so the end result is everyone's cost of living goes up by 3x.
If scientists and people are concerned about global warming then literally the best thing they can do is just plant trees and environmental restoration. That's stuff people can do on their own. We don't need the government artificially manipulating what people buy.
Warren Buffet's rail lines will profit, as will Dem campaign coffers.
Always consider cui bono.
I'm no expert, but Keystone looked mostly like a scheme to get Canadian oil to US ports to ship overseas. Might create a few jobs for a while, but mostly benefit to globalist oligarchs. Mostly, North Americans get all the goodness of processing and transporting filthy Canadian tar sands.
Time to buy Berkshire Hathaway stock!
You think cancelling Keystone was a "cLiMaTe ChAnGe" move? Since Trump took office and derelegate US production of natural gas, US has been the number one in the market. Now that US is no longer number one, guess who is number one?
Also, isn't a HUGE coincident that Hunter is associated with some eastern European energy company and have been receiving millions of dollars from Russia? /s
But orange man bad and he colluded with Russia, right guys? /s
"But it works in 'Backwards Land'...". Damn, these leftists must be from another planet where common sense doesn't exist.
Biden is not canceling the Keystone XL pipeline for environmental reasons, only the useful idiots believe that. Unfortunately there are a shit ton of them!
It's not about the environment, it's about gifting Warren Buffett a railroad contract to carry the oil by train.
500k, let's boost up those rookie numbers.
Hmm... Still not worth losing the jobs.
My earlier post appears to not be here anymore...
Anyway, I think there is some fuzzy logic here that doesn't really work out.
*433 gallons of locomotive diesel fuel to pull one loaded crude oil tank car from Canada to the gulf.
*144 to bring it back empty.
The article then goes on to say (well they quote someone) that it takes 645 tank cars per day to carry the amount the pipeline could. So 235,425 tank cars loads per year. Then they multiply that by 577.
Thats great, except they aren't pulling one tank car at a time, they are pulling a huge string of them. The gallons of diesel per tank car is going to go down the more you add (to some point, and then it would go back up, I'm sure its optimized).
So while its way worse than the pipeline, its not as bad as the article says.
Just proves the vast majority of leftists are brainless serfs who will support whatever their masters tell them to.
Warren Buffett sucks ass.
And is a well known sugar daddy to university of Nebraska coeds
Keystone was a way for Canada to bypass the us to get oil on ships for export. We already have a nation wide distribution pipeline for Canadian oil going to us. At least truckers and rail workers will make money Now. Pipeline jobs die when it's complete. If Canada had to pay the usa per gallon a tax for using the pipeline it still would only benefit the government. Also those workers voted for biden Because the unions told them to so they got what they voted for.
Completely wrong there pede. Most of the oil would be going to the US. Nebraska and Missouri were the two main places it would go. Why would Canada need to bypass the US to get oil onto ships? They have the Pacofic on one side and the Atlantic on the other. They could have just shipped it to one of their own coasts and sent it out. I also know MANY of these workers who didn't vote for Xiden. It's always the leadership paying for commercials and ads saying they support Xiden but when you ask the workers, it's about a 25/75 split in favor of Trump. Stop castigating our fellow pipeline Pedes as Xiden supporters. That's the same as the left calling all whites "white supremacists" when in reality, it's a small fraction.
The xl has one leg going to midwest the other going to Texas coast where most of the us exports of oil originate. Back when it was first proposed it only had the leg going to Texas after tons of opposition they added the midwest leg. I've been watching it since its inception. If you remember at the same time they wanted to build a hiway thru America from Canada to Mexico that would be free from dot regulations. I use to get loads from central IL to Canada hauling the separation balls they use in pipelines to change the type of fuel bieng pumped thru them. We already have more than adequate pipelines In service to supply America with Canada's oil. With hundreds of refinerys already scattered throughout the us why would we need to send it to Texas to be refined. There are in my area over 100 refinerys alone. I'm in st louis area. Worked in fuel distribution and refinery supply for years. I don't like biden but I won't let myself get biden derangement syndrome. I will weigh the facts on every subject before judgment. Why does everyone not see that some policies no matter who endorses them are not good for Americans. We were energy independent but oil companies saw more profit in exporting Our oil than matching production with demand. Look up us oil exporting numbers and see the truth of the matter. Why would or should we export oil to just import it. Its just a scam to keep you paying more for your fuel. Why this last summer when oil reached record lows did gas stay around 2 dollars a gallon when crude prices were lower than the 1960's
Canada already has pipelines to there coast for that. Exports from Texas go to South America and to Europe. The rail supply and maintenance industry is huge and the products it uses are made in the USA. If keystone wants to drop the Texas leg then I'm all for it. Branch off at midwest to central west and central east and I will be glad to fight for it to continue. But that will never happen.
Let me put it to you a different way. Biden is pissing off Canada who already has distribution networks in America while ramping up tensions in oil producing countries so when they retaliate he can impose tarrifs on their oil Making burisma a cheaper alternative. Who has children working on burismas oil companies boards? Thats right if you guessed democrats. When the right people are willing to offer them more money the xl will be back on. And most likely they will say that cost due to delays will make the midwest leg to expensive. Its all a game to enrich themselves at our expense.
Joe is retarded.
How does one gallon of diesel, which weighs 7.5 pounds, emit 22 pounds of CO2?
Addition of oxygen. IIRC carbon is weight 6 or 12, and oxygen is significantly higher
But what about muh solar panel building job?
Those panels will be built by Chyna, just like the last time they tried this under Obama. He promised solar jobs but the manufacturing went to China.
You don't get to build them. Although the usa has the best silica sand for Silicon in the world the panels will be built in CHYYINA. you will be paid minimum wage to install them.
I don't think people pick up on sarcasm to well here derp
They like to say trust the science. Just not in this case or in biological genders
Or masks, or covid...
They don't care. It's not about the environment. Cancelling it was all about funneling money into the pockets of deep state crooks.
Yes sir. And guess how many Carbon Credit offsets you’ll need to buy in order to offset your pollution?
It’s coming.
Someone is going to pay for them and I seriously doubt in the end it’s the car manufacturers or the gas/oil companies. It’ll be you and I, worked into your tax return as a credit the US government offsets on their side with Green Bonds via Paris deal.
why is everyone obsessed with THAT ONE pipeline? just because it was "trump's"?
Ding ding ding
BUT MUH INDIANS REEEEE
Watched some National Geographic show on Grand Canyon last night....they show a Navajo town they look like all living in shacks dirt road as far as eye can see.
No industry .... the only export is victim hood.
Some developers want to build a tram there that goes down into gorge. Would create 1000s of jobs, hotels restaurants but oh no MUH sacred land.
Fine whatever....
Then they focus on developers all evil whitey folks but the show doesn't talk about the tribe chiefs that are allowing this to even be on the table because they are the ones rich a f.
Endless Narrative ... so what have we learned folks?
One day if the globalist get their way and the dust settles...they will be the ones back in the castles with power and lavish lifestyle. We will be the ones begging outside the courtyard at the gates with nothing.
It's all happening in front of our faces. It's funny when you watch endless shows on "What happened to the Roman Empire"!!!! The fall of Rome!
I wonder if they will be playing in a few hundred years....What happened to America?!!! An in-depth look at how laziness destroyed a nation.
This is what they blame on the fall or Rome.
Good. I love terraforming.
Yes, but Warren Buffet needs the income from his railroad.
This made me laugh my ass off, because I figured that at least in the Democrat worldview there is SOME kind of logic to shutting down Keystone pipeline, in that a higher oil delivery cost will lead to a higher price and less usage so less CO2 output. But this post made me realize that TRAINS USE FUEL. Train usage costs money because YOURE PAYING FOR FUEL. So you're delivering the fuel less efficiently BY BURNING MORE FUEL.
I swear to God, these lefties are fuckin retarded, and it's pretty clear at this point that they just want to squash other sectors of the economy.
You (sorta) nailed it in your last paragraph...