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PurestEvil 6 points ago +6 / -0

It started bad and manipulative from the very beginning. Governments took over education to shape youth into aggressive soldiers and obedient factory workers. This was a major factor that caused WWI.

There was a time period in between where they were just bad and rather "benign." But in between it was also used for more extreme indoctrination (Nazi Germany & Communist regimes).

In India they even beat students for disobedience. They don't necessarily indoctrinate into ideologies directly, but they seek to instill obedience as the highest virtue of all. This is not too different in Europe. This was the baseline.

I have issues calling that as baseline "benign."

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CelesteD 7 points ago +7 / -0

Very true. Try to find any public school that actually taught you critical thinking abilities. It isn't (at least now, don't know how far back it goes) about education, it's about indoctrination. Theres a reason that Pink Floyd song was so popular when I was in school.

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markolbb 5 points ago +5 / -0

Perhaps I worded that poorly but I meant the idea of public education isn't by itself wrong. We know the government will fuck up anything it touches so expecting the government to run our education system resulted in it being "bad" but not originally malicious. It has become totally, absolutely evil though.

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PurestEvil 5 points ago +5 / -0

Nono, you phrased it correctly. I am just saying that some significant degree of a malicious element always existed. A disregard for individualism and freedom was always at its baseline. It is embedded in the entire structure.