Can we also point out that right-wing authoritarian is an oxymoron...
Right = small government + individualism.
People say fascism is on the right because Hitler was nationalistic while completely mind-holing the left-wing ultra-nationalistic China.
People say white nationalism is on the right because...I don't know...White people? It's on the left. The right believes in freedom of association.
Libertarians are the most anti-authoritarian group there is yet they share several beliefs with democrats like legalizing drugs, permissiveness towards sexual deviance and abortion, being non-religious, freedom for all kinds of obscenity, anti-militarism etc. The left-right paradigm is a deceptive snipe hunt for understanding politics because it can't be plotted out neatly on a chart as it's extremely subjective. It's better to leave the left-right categorization alone and only judge issues on their own merits, because the left-right paradigm does have some influence on people to accept or reject ideas based on where they believe they fall on the political spectrum; not the ideas alone.
they share several beliefs with democrats like legalizing drugs, permissiveness towards sexual deviance and abortion, being non-religious, freedom for all kinds of obscenity, anti-militarism etc.
Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child).
And yes Democrats support some right-wing ideas that are convenient for them. Republicans do the same with left-wing ideas. Legalizing drugs is still a "right wing" idea for example. Just like the left supports freedom of speech as long as you stay within their boundaries - they support legalizing drugs as long as you go along with all their other crap like having to pay for the poor decisions of others. Overall they are still authoritarians and that's what drives their positions, but sometimes a right-wing idea is beneficial to them and so they adopt it. Open borders would be another example.
I can explain what I mean for those examples I used.
The guy I first replied to said right wing authoritarianism is any oxymoron. This means that, according to him, the less authoritarian you are the more right wing you are. So I talked about libertarianism, the most anti-authoritarian ideology there is. And among libertarians there are many who subscribe to several ideas that are also shared by democrats. The reason I pointed this out was to show that thinking about politics in terms of how far left or right ideologies and issues fit on the political spectrum is subjective and misleading.
What differentiates libertarianism from traditional GOP conservatives most of all is a permissive attitude (in the ways that liberals are permissive, not the ways they aren't e.g. liberals desire to censor speech). GOP conservatives are more puritanical compared to libertarians and are more likely to object to obscene content.
The reason for all this is because libertarianism revolves around the ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone in all ways that don't violate the non aggression principle. Now the way this is interpreted by individual libertarians varies. That's why what I said was a generalization as I know it doesn't describe all libertarians perfectly.
But this ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone is why libertarians are more likely to have a laissez-faire "what homosexuals do in their own bedrooms is their business" attitude than the more puritanical GOP conservatives, although the latter group seems to have adopted this attitude more over the years.
"Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child)."
The abortion issue could be interpreted differently than you did by a libertarian who prioritized the freedom of the mother over that of her unborn.
Can we also point out that right-wing authoritarian is an oxymoron...
Right = small government + individualism. People say fascism is on the right because Hitler was nationalistic while completely mind-holing the left-wing ultra-nationalistic China. People say white nationalism is on the right because...I don't know...White people? It's on the left. The right believes in freedom of association.
Libertarians are the most anti-authoritarian group there is yet they share several beliefs with democrats like legalizing drugs, permissiveness towards sexual deviance and abortion, being non-religious, freedom for all kinds of obscenity, anti-militarism etc. The left-right paradigm is a deceptive snipe hunt for understanding politics because it can't be plotted out neatly on a chart as it's extremely subjective. It's better to leave the left-right categorization alone and only judge issues on their own merits, because the left-right paradigm does have some influence on people to accept or reject ideas based on where they believe they fall on the political spectrum; not the ideas alone.
Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child).
And yes Democrats support some right-wing ideas that are convenient for them. Republicans do the same with left-wing ideas. Legalizing drugs is still a "right wing" idea for example. Just like the left supports freedom of speech as long as you stay within their boundaries - they support legalizing drugs as long as you go along with all their other crap like having to pay for the poor decisions of others. Overall they are still authoritarians and that's what drives their positions, but sometimes a right-wing idea is beneficial to them and so they adopt it. Open borders would be another example.
I can explain what I mean for those examples I used.
The guy I first replied to said right wing authoritarianism is any oxymoron. This means that, according to him, the less authoritarian you are the more right wing you are. So I talked about libertarianism, the most anti-authoritarian ideology there is. And among libertarians there are many who subscribe to several ideas that are also shared by democrats. The reason I pointed this out was to show that thinking about politics in terms of how far left or right ideologies and issues fit on the political spectrum is subjective and misleading.
What differentiates libertarianism from traditional GOP conservatives most of all is a permissive attitude (in the ways that liberals are permissive, not the ways they aren't e.g. liberals desire to censor speech). GOP conservatives are more puritanical compared to libertarians and are more likely to object to obscene content.
The reason for all this is because libertarianism revolves around the ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone in all ways that don't violate the non aggression principle. Now the way this is interpreted by individual libertarians varies. That's why what I said was a generalization as I know it doesn't describe all libertarians perfectly.
But this ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone is why libertarians are more likely to have a laissez-faire "what homosexuals do in their own bedrooms is their business" attitude than the more puritanical GOP conservatives, although the latter group seems to have adopted this attitude more over the years.
"Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child)."
The abortion issue could be interpreted differently than you did by a libertarian who prioritized the freedom of the mother over that of her unborn.