they share several beliefs with democrats like legalizing drugs, permissiveness towards sexual deviance and abortion, being non-religious, freedom for all kinds of obscenity, anti-militarism etc.
Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child).
And yes Democrats support some right-wing ideas that are convenient for them. Republicans do the same with left-wing ideas. Legalizing drugs is still a "right wing" idea for example. Just like the left supports freedom of speech as long as you stay within their boundaries - they support legalizing drugs as long as you go along with all their other crap like having to pay for the poor decisions of others. Overall they are still authoritarians and that's what drives their positions, but sometimes a right-wing idea is beneficial to them and so they adopt it. Open borders would be another example.
I can explain what I mean for those examples I used.
The guy I first replied to said right wing authoritarianism is any oxymoron. This means that, according to him, the less authoritarian you are the more right wing you are. So I talked about libertarianism, the most anti-authoritarian ideology there is. And among libertarians there are many who subscribe to several ideas that are also shared by democrats. The reason I pointed this out was to show that thinking about politics in terms of how far left or right ideologies and issues fit on the political spectrum is subjective and misleading.
What differentiates libertarianism from traditional GOP conservatives most of all is a permissive attitude (in the ways that liberals are permissive, not the ways they aren't e.g. liberals desire to censor speech). GOP conservatives are more puritanical compared to libertarians and are more likely to object to obscene content.
The reason for all this is because libertarianism revolves around the ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone in all ways that don't violate the non aggression principle. Now the way this is interpreted by individual libertarians varies. That's why what I said was a generalization as I know it doesn't describe all libertarians perfectly.
But this ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone is why libertarians are more likely to have a laissez-faire "what homosexuals do in their own bedrooms is their business" attitude than the more puritanical GOP conservatives, although the latter group seems to have adopted this attitude more over the years.
"Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child)."
The abortion issue could be interpreted differently than you did by a libertarian who prioritized the freedom of the mother over that of her unborn.
thinking about politics in terms of how far left or right ideologies and issues fit on the political spectrum is subjective and misleading
No, what's misleading is doing what you are doing. The left uses it to label their "right wing" ideas as actually "left wing" to get the credit / PR for it. Same way they label the Nazis as right wing even though they were left wing. It's this dishonesty that is the cancer.
What you are doing is playing their game when you say there is no such thing as this right left authoritarian line. The difference is simply that there are different ways to use your authority, but your position on the spectrum is simply a result of the net authoritarianism of your aggregate beliefs. Anything otherwise is nonsensical. I've seen all those mishmashed political spectrums they are low IQ garbage.
I took the time to explain to you the things I wrote. All you are doing right now is making charges without giving an explanation, which totally useless to me. The reason you don't have an explanation is because your position is not well thought out. It's a regurgitated position. That was precisely the kind of thinking I was trying to help people escape by showing how the left-wing paradigm inhibits nuanced political understanding. You have an autistic obsession with the misleading left to right political spectrum and it has caused you to miss the point completely. You are either an example victim of what I was talking about or a shill. I won't waste any more time with you so don't bother replying.
Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child).
And yes Democrats support some right-wing ideas that are convenient for them. Republicans do the same with left-wing ideas. Legalizing drugs is still a "right wing" idea for example. Just like the left supports freedom of speech as long as you stay within their boundaries - they support legalizing drugs as long as you go along with all their other crap like having to pay for the poor decisions of others. Overall they are still authoritarians and that's what drives their positions, but sometimes a right-wing idea is beneficial to them and so they adopt it. Open borders would be another example.
I can explain what I mean for those examples I used.
The guy I first replied to said right wing authoritarianism is any oxymoron. This means that, according to him, the less authoritarian you are the more right wing you are. So I talked about libertarianism, the most anti-authoritarian ideology there is. And among libertarians there are many who subscribe to several ideas that are also shared by democrats. The reason I pointed this out was to show that thinking about politics in terms of how far left or right ideologies and issues fit on the political spectrum is subjective and misleading.
What differentiates libertarianism from traditional GOP conservatives most of all is a permissive attitude (in the ways that liberals are permissive, not the ways they aren't e.g. liberals desire to censor speech). GOP conservatives are more puritanical compared to libertarians and are more likely to object to obscene content.
The reason for all this is because libertarianism revolves around the ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone in all ways that don't violate the non aggression principle. Now the way this is interpreted by individual libertarians varies. That's why what I said was a generalization as I know it doesn't describe all libertarians perfectly.
But this ideal of maximizing freedom for everyone is why libertarians are more likely to have a laissez-faire "what homosexuals do in their own bedrooms is their business" attitude than the more puritanical GOP conservatives, although the latter group seems to have adopted this attitude more over the years.
"Libertarians don't believe in all that (abortion for example is a net reduction in liberty once you consider the liberty of the child)."
The abortion issue could be interpreted differently than you did by a libertarian who prioritized the freedom of the mother over that of her unborn.
No, what's misleading is doing what you are doing. The left uses it to label their "right wing" ideas as actually "left wing" to get the credit / PR for it. Same way they label the Nazis as right wing even though they were left wing. It's this dishonesty that is the cancer.
What you are doing is playing their game when you say there is no such thing as this right left authoritarian line. The difference is simply that there are different ways to use your authority, but your position on the spectrum is simply a result of the net authoritarianism of your aggregate beliefs. Anything otherwise is nonsensical. I've seen all those mishmashed political spectrums they are low IQ garbage.
I took the time to explain to you the things I wrote. All you are doing right now is making charges without giving an explanation, which totally useless to me. The reason you don't have an explanation is because your position is not well thought out. It's a regurgitated position. That was precisely the kind of thinking I was trying to help people escape by showing how the left-wing paradigm inhibits nuanced political understanding. You have an autistic obsession with the misleading left to right political spectrum and it has caused you to miss the point completely. You are either an example victim of what I was talking about or a shill. I won't waste any more time with you so don't bother replying.