Traditional feminism was and is fine. But modern feminism takes it too far. It's morphed beyond 'worthiness' and into 'special privileges' and 'man-hating' and throws common sense out of the window.
Traditional feminism wants women to be able to vote and values the work women do at home to raise a family. It even dips into erasing stereotypes that women should only be homemakers, maids, secretaries or assistants.
Modern feminism is all of that and includes a strong desire to erase 'toxic masculinity' and 'the patriarchy'. Their thinking is a bit backwards in that they are willing to abort unborn women and want to bring in men who identify as women. These types of feminists are unhappy and will never live a fulfilling life.
What responsibility does a man have over a woman that is more important?
Is the woman's role in a family less important than a man's?
If you are talking about societal pressures, well there are certainly a fair share on either side. If you are talking about war, women die in war too. Voting affects a woman's quality of life just as much as a man's. Traditional feminism does not ask for privileges or authority. It asks for 'worthiness' in the eyes of men who hold the power to allow it. If you have an overly traditional view that women should be submissive and 'God>husband>wife', we might be at an impasse.
Men have the burden of performance, while women do not. Women's value is determined simply by existing. (yes, it is) You wont agree with this because you are a feminist. Sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive. Everything is set up based on this. Men have to fight for everything they get. Women expect things to be handed things or if the game doesnt work in their favor, they want to change the rules to support their collective. They want to play in the world of men but not by the rules of men. They want to make it "fair" for them.
Theres not enough women upper management, so let's just promote some random women.
Need to work long hours, then we should have paid day care.
Need to grind out years in a career, then we should have the company freeze our eggs for us.
Honestly, how many women have died in war? Can women be drafted? Voting doesn't affect a woman's quality of life as much as a men because the state will always support a woman. And if the state doesnt, there will be some desperate man waiting to give a hand up to a woman. Traditional feminism did ask for authority and the rights that men earned through their responsibility to society. Were women asked to join the bucket brigade or draft for war when they got the right to vote? Did they have to own property? Are Women expected to wait for men and children to get off the boats first? Are women expected to protect men from harm or trouble? Is the blame for everything placed on women, and then when anyone says anything we tell women to "WOMEN UP."
Yes, women want to be men without the responsibility of men. This is not to say women aren't valuable. They are valubale as women, not as women trying to be a shitty version of a man. But you think that there is blank slate equalism between the sexes and there is not. If women aren't submissive, then who is? The man. There is always one dominant and submissive in relationships. If you say, yea but me and my husband talk about things and come to an agreement. The woman is the dominant and the man is the submissive. That woman will be on the look out for a more dominant man.
feminists tried to tell everyone anyone can be a man for years... funny how the shoe is on the other foot and they don't like it.
There are many different iterations of feminism and they do not all include women fighting for the right to be men.
But all of them are still cancer.
Traditional feminism was and is fine. But modern feminism takes it too far. It's morphed beyond 'worthiness' and into 'special privileges' and 'man-hating' and throws common sense out of the window.
Traditional feminism wants women to be able to vote and values the work women do at home to raise a family. It even dips into erasing stereotypes that women should only be homemakers, maids, secretaries or assistants.
Modern feminism is all of that and includes a strong desire to erase 'toxic masculinity' and 'the patriarchy'. Their thinking is a bit backwards in that they are willing to abort unborn women and want to bring in men who identify as women. These types of feminists are unhappy and will never live a fulfilling life.
incorrect - first wave feminism was an intentional increment to the poisonous, feminist abomination of today.
All of feminism is fighting for the authority and privileges that men have/had but without the responsibility that men have. From sufferage till now.
Without the responsibility?
What responsibility does a man have over a woman that is more important?
Is the woman's role in a family less important than a man's?
If you are talking about societal pressures, well there are certainly a fair share on either side. If you are talking about war, women die in war too. Voting affects a woman's quality of life just as much as a man's. Traditional feminism does not ask for privileges or authority. It asks for 'worthiness' in the eyes of men who hold the power to allow it. If you have an overly traditional view that women should be submissive and 'God>husband>wife', we might be at an impasse.
Yes, without the responsibility.
Men have the burden of performance, while women do not. Women's value is determined simply by existing. (yes, it is) You wont agree with this because you are a feminist. Sperm is cheap and eggs are expensive. Everything is set up based on this. Men have to fight for everything they get. Women expect things to be handed things or if the game doesnt work in their favor, they want to change the rules to support their collective. They want to play in the world of men but not by the rules of men. They want to make it "fair" for them.
Honestly, how many women have died in war? Can women be drafted? Voting doesn't affect a woman's quality of life as much as a men because the state will always support a woman. And if the state doesnt, there will be some desperate man waiting to give a hand up to a woman. Traditional feminism did ask for authority and the rights that men earned through their responsibility to society. Were women asked to join the bucket brigade or draft for war when they got the right to vote? Did they have to own property? Are Women expected to wait for men and children to get off the boats first? Are women expected to protect men from harm or trouble? Is the blame for everything placed on women, and then when anyone says anything we tell women to "WOMEN UP."
Yes, women want to be men without the responsibility of men. This is not to say women aren't valuable. They are valubale as women, not as women trying to be a shitty version of a man. But you think that there is blank slate equalism between the sexes and there is not. If women aren't submissive, then who is? The man. There is always one dominant and submissive in relationships. If you say, yea but me and my husband talk about things and come to an agreement. The woman is the dominant and the man is the submissive. That woman will be on the look out for a more dominant man.
Ugh, no thanks. Why the fuck would I want to be a man?
Why the fuck would anyone want to be a woman...
Oh, right, the female privilege.
i'm seriously looking at legally changing my sex. i'm in canada, it's dead simple; one guy did it to get a better rate on his insurance.
at the end of day, if you derive any definition of who you are by and m or f on a gov't form, well, you doing life wrong.
There are plenty of men who agree with you.
I could be wrong but aren’t the vast majority of trannies male to “female”?
Most women wouldn’t give up their coddled and protected status for anything, and many men are trying to sneak their way onto that train.
Yes. They're on to us. 😠
It takes a man to be the best woman!
Exactly. Just point and laugh. They had the option to stop this but decided Biden's "equality" plan suited them better.