Really?
(checks)
You are correct. I chance my comment and thank you.
Enjoy an upvote.
RETORT:
Trump ran "as a" Republican. Is he one?
CNN claims to be a "NEWS" organization. Are they one?
Arnold made a lot of detrimental financial mistakes as Governor,
knocked-up his Mexican maid and criticized Trump at every turn.
Is Arnold a Republican? Was he really one as Governor?
Well I don't really think knocking up the maid is a reflection of politics & with all the stupid shit going on financially in the cities it's hard to say for sure (without a bunch of research) how much he was responsible for the state's financial problems. My main point of reference is that progressives hated him... As far criticizing Trump, could just as easily be socially brain washed.
As far as the semantics about Republican/news/etc... I'm not even sure what Republican means anymore. Frankly Trump was more of an actual liberal than the Democrats are (I don't think you can be a liberal while opposing free speech) while simultaneously being more conservative than much of the Republicans. I think Trump is more accurately describes as an American patriot. Nationalist for sure.
P.S. I do love language and the nature of your retort.
I learn a lot from an argument with an intelligent person.
I learn by thinking about the issue to plan retort. I learn even more if I lose.
(I don't think you can be a liberal while opposing free speech)
"Liberal" is a misnomer; an intentional branding to veil intent,
much like:
"Reproductive Rights" really means "Right to not reproduce = Abortion".
"The Fight for Equal Rights" really means "The Fight for Total Control"
McDonalds sells "100% Pure Beef Patties" - a product which is part Oat Bran and comes from a McDonalds-owned company named "100% Pure Beef Co."
Their "100% Pure Orange Juice" also contains "artificial flavors" like most OJs
Example: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4CEm9yybo&t=5m29s
REAL "Democrats" want straight democracy and no Constitution,
Founders knew was dangerous and created a Constitutional Republic.
REAL "Republicans" want that to remain.
Liberal politics seeks more governmental control over what Citizens do.
Conservative politics seeks less reach for government over what Citizens do.
Leftist politics is pure selfishness, wanting everything without doing anything for it
at any cost to those who pay for it and someone to blame when it fails
Well it's more of a debate than an argument at that point. Agree re: liberal branding
That's hilarious re: McDonald's, didn't know that & also not sure why it surprised me.
While I would intend to agree re: democracy v republic, it seems to be another branding misnomer to some degree. & It seems you're offering modern interpretations of those labels. I would more easily admit that the people considering themselves liberals just flat out aren't, though they share a key component: wanting change... Whereas conservatism wants consistency of the current paradigm.
I'll offer you an epiphany I had a few years back: all things can be broken down into 3 parts: foundation, medium, and change (in psychological or theological discussions I've found they substitute foundation for order and change for chaos while ignoring medium)... It always follows the same principles no matter where you find it. Kind of the "key" to it is that it has to be complete, e.g. time is complete- past, present, future would be the components. In all scenarios they share the same natures... Past/foundation is unified, does not tend to change, there's a certain rigidity to it. Future/change/chaos it's something that doesn't necessarily even exist... Like a hole... You can say surely there's a hole there, but you're talking about the absence of something. Is the difference between positive and negative. Kind of a pure view is that those are absolutes and all that exists are the medium merely polarized towards those absolutes. Anyway the gf is yelling at me and to avoid rambling, I'm going to stop. Is there was a friend feature on this site I would have added you. Thanks for the good conversation
It isn't rambling to someone who understands and appreciates what you're talking about and where you're coming from. lol Thanks for your reply.
You may both wish to come to my new post and destroy me over it, like the other respondents have, rather than post BETTER ideas as the title requests. lol
The comments are ... interesting ... and indicate why we may be losing most of our battles and there are so many divorces in America; many on this side seem to he hard-headed and .... not very bright.
Everything about this is great. He even asks himself his own question and skips letting the interviewer ask anything.
What's even better is that Arnold bankrupted California as Governor ( state employees weren't paid for months )
> is a Democrat
he was Republican as governor... Kind of was the bogeyman to progressives at the time
Really?
(checks)
You are correct. I chance my comment and thank you.
Enjoy an upvote.
RETORT:
Trump ran "as a" Republican. Is he one?
CNN claims to be a "NEWS" organization. Are they one?
Arnold made a lot of detrimental financial mistakes as Governor, knocked-up his Mexican maid and criticized Trump at every turn.
Is Arnold a Republican? Was he really one as Governor?
Well I don't really think knocking up the maid is a reflection of politics & with all the stupid shit going on financially in the cities it's hard to say for sure (without a bunch of research) how much he was responsible for the state's financial problems. My main point of reference is that progressives hated him... As far criticizing Trump, could just as easily be socially brain washed.
As far as the semantics about Republican/news/etc... I'm not even sure what Republican means anymore. Frankly Trump was more of an actual liberal than the Democrats are (I don't think you can be a liberal while opposing free speech) while simultaneously being more conservative than much of the Republicans. I think Trump is more accurately describes as an American patriot. Nationalist for sure.
P.S. I do love language and the nature of your retort.
I learn a lot from an argument with an intelligent person.
I learn by thinking about the issue to plan retort. I learn even more if I lose.
"Liberal" is a misnomer; an intentional branding to veil intent,
much like:
"Reproductive Rights" really means "Right to not reproduce = Abortion".
"The Fight for Equal Rights" really means "The Fight for Total Control"
McDonalds sells "100% Pure Beef Patties" - a product which is part Oat Bran and comes from a McDonalds-owned company named "100% Pure Beef Co."
Their "100% Pure Orange Juice" also contains "artificial flavors" like most OJs
Example:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8e4CEm9yybo&t=5m29s
REAL "Democrats" want straight democracy and no Constitution, Founders knew was dangerous and created a Constitutional Republic.
REAL "Republicans" want that to remain.
Liberal politics seeks more governmental control over what Citizens do.
Conservative politics seeks less reach for government over what Citizens do.
Leftist politics is pure selfishness, wanting everything without doing anything for it
at any cost to those who pay for it and someone to blame when it fails
Well it's more of a debate than an argument at that point. Agree re: liberal branding
That's hilarious re: McDonald's, didn't know that & also not sure why it surprised me.
While I would intend to agree re: democracy v republic, it seems to be another branding misnomer to some degree. & It seems you're offering modern interpretations of those labels. I would more easily admit that the people considering themselves liberals just flat out aren't, though they share a key component: wanting change... Whereas conservatism wants consistency of the current paradigm.
I'll offer you an epiphany I had a few years back: all things can be broken down into 3 parts: foundation, medium, and change (in psychological or theological discussions I've found they substitute foundation for order and change for chaos while ignoring medium)... It always follows the same principles no matter where you find it. Kind of the "key" to it is that it has to be complete, e.g. time is complete- past, present, future would be the components. In all scenarios they share the same natures... Past/foundation is unified, does not tend to change, there's a certain rigidity to it. Future/change/chaos it's something that doesn't necessarily even exist... Like a hole... You can say surely there's a hole there, but you're talking about the absence of something. Is the difference between positive and negative. Kind of a pure view is that those are absolutes and all that exists are the medium merely polarized towards those absolutes. Anyway the gf is yelling at me and to avoid rambling, I'm going to stop. Is there was a friend feature on this site I would have added you. Thanks for the good conversation
It isn't rambling to someone who understands and appreciates what you're talking about and where you're coming from. lol Thanks for your reply.
You may both wish to come to my new post and destroy me over it, like the other respondents have, rather than post BETTER ideas as the title requests. lol
The comments are ... interesting ... and indicate why we may be losing most of our battles and there are so many divorces in America; many on this side seem to he hard-headed and .... not very bright.
https://patriots.win/p/12hRH24woG/the-abortion-solution--if-you-ha/c/