Muh optics fags like bill barr have stated otherwise....would look too politically motivated to arrest a commie shitbag. Gop arrests are simply "protecting democracy"
A) no it’s not illegal, because the rules of evidence do not apply because this isn’t a real trial.
B) we haven’t had a functioning DoJ in this country for generations - nobody is getting arrested for shit.
I'm not paying attention to the current theater show, but from what I recall in the last impeachment the House did not require following rules of evidence, because each branch can set their own rules. In the Senate I'm not sure what power they have to choose rules, but doubt they did have the power to require normal rules of evidence and also doubt they have a majority with motivation to do so.
It would be nice if you could do something like allow a judge to ask lawyers questions regarding the evidence, and make them put in a statement on the record that says something was omitted, and so on. But in the last trial they failed to go forward with getting Schiff to testify under oath. Basically it's open season for lies, there is no active mechanism to cross check besides having the public listen carefully before believing videos. This is half on Democrats for being dishonest pigs and half on the public for being gullible pigs.
Amazingly, no. There is great leniency to say whatever you like (and, unlike in public, have zero liability for doing so) when speaking in the Congress/Senate.
At the very least this just confirms for normies that it's a show trial.
The fact that they are presenting "facts" the same way they do in the media, by leaving out context manipulatively, and are clearly not worried about the repercussions means they are sure it isn't a legally binding procedure.
If Chief Justice was presiding, and this was legal, they wouldn't be so cavalier about skirting the constitution and the law to this level.
A lot of normies are absolute retards. My aunt said Trump had violent rhetoric that encouraged the events of the 6th, I asked for a quote of him doing so, she sent a short video of Trump’s Inauguration video where he said “we are going to give the power back to the people”.
It’s pretty horrifying that these people don’t even know that the foundation of our country is WE THE PEOPLE having the power, not the government. I asked if she understood this but preferred to be ruled over and she didn’t respond kek
Propaganda is very effective. Anyone casually following along by watching the "news" or reading articles posted by their Democrat friends on social media is going to have a view of events that does not match reality. Sadly, this is the case for almost all normies.
In order to be truly informed these days you need to actively seek out the truth, which, which is actively censored and buried beneath a pile of propaganda. Most people aren't doing that, so they end up believing the ubiquitous and heavily promoted Fake News.
Absurd. It’s like they don’t think we actually saw the video. We ALL know what he said you bunch of jackasses. Trying to pull the wool over our eyes in broad daylight. Shameful
Most people didn't see it, and this show trial is aimed at them. The Democrats I follow on social media declared him guilty and demanded his execution long before this kangaroo court even convened.
As for us, the people who did see the video, we're all "white nationalists" and "extremists" and considered to be potential terrorists.
It’s not illegal, because they’re on the “right side of history.” This impeachment shit is just political theater but the democrats don’t realize they’re shitty actors. This is a waste of money and the majority of Americans don’t want it but it ain’t gonna change until we fix things ourselves.
Illegal according to who? According to the people who make the laws? You silly goose. All they have to do is make a rule that it is legal. The way that they ruled this impeachment is constitutional.
And it's also a foreign country so they know, they can say and do anything they want, to lie to the people of the United States, which well soon be the divided states of america, because of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
the whole thing is a sham, any evidence or argument doesnt matter. They already have the votes they want. It is a planned event not one meant for debate or reasoning.
But stay strong, stay righteous. And we will win. Stop engaging liberals and just say what the truth is. It's much less exhausting. Just say the truth of the matter and ignore them. Don't even respond to what they say specifically, it's like all word games, deception, moral grandstanding, and shaming to win the argument with no basis in reality.
We will win. We are the majority. We don't control the media, though. That's where they beat us back. That's why I comment on the NBC/ABC facebook pages a lot. I have Facebook cuz it's tied to my Ebay and I sell a lot on there. Deleted Instagram, though. Fuck them.
At the start of that video Raskin says "...we risk allowing January 6th to become our future." Hell yeah brother, it was 99.9% people singing and waving flags at the people's house.
More egregious is the inevitable censoring of people trying to post short clips of President Trump where he says "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
I guarantee that scummy Big Tech all will coordinate to prevent truth of the actual speech to get out... at least for the duration of the impeachment trial. After which, it won't matter.
He would have been better off playing it. The absence of it has caused it to blow up much bigger than it would have been. Dems are not known for thinking through stuff.
Submitting deceptively edited video evidence is illegal and they should be arrested..
baaaaahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaahahha
Muh optics fags like bill barr have stated otherwise....would look too politically motivated to arrest a commie shitbag. Gop arrests are simply "protecting democracy"
In La La Liberalistan faux video evidence is not illegal and bearing false witness against your fellow man is not a sin.
Also impeaching a citizen is constitutional...🙄
. . . They stole an election, laws mean nothing to these ass hats.
Lmfao look at this noob who thinks the law applies to democrats.
A) no it’s not illegal, because the rules of evidence do not apply because this isn’t a real trial. B) we haven’t had a functioning DoJ in this country for generations - nobody is getting arrested for shit.
FTFY
I was talking about this case specifically. But yes, you are 100% correct.
I'm not paying attention to the current theater show, but from what I recall in the last impeachment the House did not require following rules of evidence, because each branch can set their own rules. In the Senate I'm not sure what power they have to choose rules, but doubt they did have the power to require normal rules of evidence and also doubt they have a majority with motivation to do so.
It would be nice if you could do something like allow a judge to ask lawyers questions regarding the evidence, and make them put in a statement on the record that says something was omitted, and so on. But in the last trial they failed to go forward with getting Schiff to testify under oath. Basically it's open season for lies, there is no active mechanism to cross check besides having the public listen carefully before believing videos. This is half on Democrats for being dishonest pigs and half on the public for being gullible pigs.
Does the Senate not have a 'you must not lie' rule, as is in use in parliaments in democracies?
Amazingly, no. There is great leniency to say whatever you like (and, unlike in public, have zero liability for doing so) when speaking in the Congress/Senate.
Congress is immune to any form of legal prosecution from ‘misleading or incomplete’ statements. Censure and removal are about it.
Technically, it violates congressional rules.
But yes, not a "crime."
This is a kangaroo court, and laws dont apply. Its spin & deception vs public opinion
Iraq has weapons of mass destruction
Benghazi was because of a youtube video
Kavanaugh was a gang rapist fo realz dog
Yep they seem to always lie and distort
Isn't that modus operandi for satanists?
It's not a trial but a kangaroo court. I want to raise and release 500 ostriches in dc. Good luck getting rid of them
What do you need to raise and release them for? Going by the shit in the letter agencies, they've been breeding there for decades.
Supposedly the australians trying to cull their emu/ostrich population with the army and they couldn't do it. I think it'd just be hilarious
Ah yes The Great Emu War
Define “legal”... laws don’t apply to Demonrats.
It depends on what the definition of "is" is.
slick Willy! I kinda feel bad for him now, having to hump a side of beef must have caused trauma.
I don't think he ever did. His kid looks like someone else's.
Debbie Wasserman Schultz is the father.
Webb Hubbell
That's who I was thinking of.
Laws don't apply to Democrats and are not necessary to incarcerate Patriots. These thought crimes need no proof.
Everything is "legal" for scumbag Swamp Monsters.
At the very least this just confirms for normies that it's a show trial.
The fact that they are presenting "facts" the same way they do in the media, by leaving out context manipulatively, and are clearly not worried about the repercussions means they are sure it isn't a legally binding procedure.
If Chief Justice was presiding, and this was legal, they wouldn't be so cavalier about skirting the constitution and the law to this level.
Show trial gets show trial behavior.
A lot of normies are absolute retards. My aunt said Trump had violent rhetoric that encouraged the events of the 6th, I asked for a quote of him doing so, she sent a short video of Trump’s Inauguration video where he said “we are going to give the power back to the people”.
It’s pretty horrifying that these people don’t even know that the foundation of our country is WE THE PEOPLE having the power, not the government. I asked if she understood this but preferred to be ruled over and she didn’t respond kek
Propaganda is very effective. Anyone casually following along by watching the "news" or reading articles posted by their Democrat friends on social media is going to have a view of events that does not match reality. Sadly, this is the case for almost all normies.
In order to be truly informed these days you need to actively seek out the truth, which, which is actively censored and buried beneath a pile of propaganda. Most people aren't doing that, so they end up believing the ubiquitous and heavily promoted Fake News.
Holy cow. To think that there are actual people who think like that. Man, that's just crazy.
It probably is illegal, but again, when has that ever stopped them?
"GOOD PEOPLE ON BOTH SIDES"
We're just gonna ignore the part where he says just before that "Not the White Supremacists"
It’s exactly the same thing. If you’re the kind of person who would hold onto that, for four years, you’re not going to care that they edited this.
Next they'll just splice together individual words that Trump has said over the years to make him say whatever they want, then impeach him on that.
Sure, they would get away with it, so why wouldn't they? They can pretty much do whatever they want now.
Just have Alec Baldwin play Trump in a movie and impeach Trump based on the character.
Already happening:
https://youtu.be/Yey5MtACi3g
They just openly stole all three branches of our Government. It's obvious they don't give one single fuck about the law
LOOK LOOK PEACHMENT!!!!!!..................meanwhile Time magazine has admitted the 2020 election was rigged
EXCUSE ME SIR IT WAS FORTIFIED
Heavily fortified, with rigged software and fake ballots.
Which clearly saved the country.
aNd dEmOcRaCy!!!!
DOCTORED
Absurd. It’s like they don’t think we actually saw the video. We ALL know what he said you bunch of jackasses. Trying to pull the wool over our eyes in broad daylight. Shameful
The low information people likely didn't see it.
Most people didn't see it, and this show trial is aimed at them. The Democrats I follow on social media declared him guilty and demanded his execution long before this kangaroo court even convened.
As for us, the people who did see the video, we're all "white nationalists" and "extremists" and considered to be potential terrorists.
We all saw the transcript from the Ukraine call and look what happened.
The "funniest" part of that video was the large "JaydenX" watermark on segments of it. Did they not get the memo about Sullivan???
The FBI has lost the memo. Oops.
Step into this Rabbit Hole:
https://communities.win/c/TheDonald/p/12hRCFi4r1/suppression-of-false-flag-discus/
Nothing is illegal if you’re a Democrat.
Like 'legal' matters anymore
Isn't everything they've done illegal? Come on man
Where have you been the last four years? (that is not to you personally but this is how the propaganda machine works).
REEEE! The video was LITERALLY provided by the ministry of truth. It’s legit. Stop with the conspiracy theories, you fascist bigot!
Does it matter anymore whats legal or not anymore? Not to dems.
They dont care about the law, isn't it obvious at this point?
It’s not illegal, because they’re on the “right side of history.” This impeachment shit is just political theater but the democrats don’t realize they’re shitty actors. This is a waste of money and the majority of Americans don’t want it but it ain’t gonna change until we fix things ourselves.
Laws don't apply anymore. The laws are worthless at this point.
Illegal according to who? According to the people who make the laws? You silly goose. All they have to do is make a rule that it is legal. The way that they ruled this impeachment is constitutional.
Needed a "This video has been doctored" disclaimer.
That wasn't even good editing. "We're going to walk down to the-- (completely different tone) CAPITOL."
They sure are living that new stalinist lifestyle aren't they?
Nope Obama removed the law preventing propaganda to be used in this country.
And it's also a foreign country so they know, they can say and do anything they want, to lie to the people of the United States, which well soon be the divided states of america, because of them !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Everything they do is illegal.
So you think pointing out something they did being illegal will do anything...
It's "political" it has nothing to do with the law.
Ignore every ruling this congress takes they are not representing us.
Doesn't matter because the media will repeat the lie.
They are allowed to do it under the slack rules for an impeachment. Would never fly in a real criminal court.
Criminals used to stand before the bench. Now they sit behind the bench.
Legal? I don’t think that matters in communism.
Communism - Legal is whatever I say it is. Sort of like SCOTUS and Constitutional Interpretation.
It’s where we are.
the whole thing is a sham, any evidence or argument doesnt matter. They already have the votes they want. It is a planned event not one meant for debate or reasoning.
Like when Schiff said it was a "parody"?
If Rand Paul did that he'd be charged.
But stay strong, stay righteous. And we will win. Stop engaging liberals and just say what the truth is. It's much less exhausting. Just say the truth of the matter and ignore them. Don't even respond to what they say specifically, it's like all word games, deception, moral grandstanding, and shaming to win the argument with no basis in reality.
We will win. We are the majority. We don't control the media, though. That's where they beat us back. That's why I comment on the NBC/ABC facebook pages a lot. I have Facebook cuz it's tied to my Ebay and I sell a lot on there. Deleted Instagram, though. Fuck them.
At the start of that video Raskin says "...we risk allowing January 6th to become our future." Hell yeah brother, it was 99.9% people singing and waving flags at the people's house.
You're assuming that they care about going things legally in the first place.
More egregious is the inevitable censoring of people trying to post short clips of President Trump where he says "I know that everyone here will soon be marching over to the Capitol building to peacefully and patriotically make your voices heard."
I guarantee that scummy Big Tech all will coordinate to prevent truth of the actual speech to get out... at least for the duration of the impeachment trial. After which, it won't matter.
purposely tampering with evidence and presenting it as real.....yep...illegal and unethical....
TRUMP's lawyers need to do the same thing and play clips of democrats and pair them up with the violence from the ANTIFA/BLM summer riots.
The illegitimate government can do whatever it wants now. Laws don't apply to totalitarians.
Who was in charge of this? They can't keep getting away with it can they?
Accusing someone of treason when they didn't commit treason is itself treason.
Too many non violent pussies on our side want to vote them out for them to be scared of accountability
This would be my response "The deceptively edited video removed exculpatory evidence. This should be grounds for dismissal."
Can't Trump's team show the clip with "peacefully" included to make fools of them?
Yes, MSNDC will break for commercial, but it will at least be shown.
Just like they've done the last 4 years this is nothing but an orchestrated theatre production. We don't need to buy a ticket.
He would have been better off playing it. The absence of it has caused it to blow up much bigger than it would have been. Dems are not known for thinking through stuff.