Gonna hijack this comment a little to say if any technical Pede can create an app for us it would help make it (the fight) a lot easier.
If millions of us had it and it allowed us to help organize and communicate on a local level, while still keeping us connected country-wide, we could do so many more things.
As an example.....part of the app could let us advertise our businesses locally, helping us to wean ourselves off the big corporate stores.
There are many of us who are thinking exactly this, even at a rough planning stage.
Scott Kesterson did a series last year, “County by County” and Bards is developing either a platform or app(?).
Wallace Farms in Iowa launched “99 Counties” which is primarily focused on food security but depends on retaking leadership at the local level across the state.
Not recommending doxxing oneself but heck if we got a legit working group together, I’m in.
a community ran quick reference resource library with an edit history/log...could double as an faq. Also a basic means of communication with optional filtering components.
I think we can win easily, and it could be yuuugely fun kicking the establishment's cracks in!!!
We just need a way to coordinate our efforts... The game theory is there... full disclosure...I'm an R-Tard when it comes to programming. Microsoft Excel is about my max capability...
Commented over there. I like the idea and think you're right we need some sites/apps in addition to patriots.win. This site is great for discussion, news, memes. But as the dust settles, we need a solid, legal plan and action. Matt Braynard's projects are another to keep an eye on IMO.
Friends said they never heard Lemp espouse any anti-government rhetoric. Sandler said Lemp was not a part of any anti-government or militia-type group.
“He was pro-America and supported wholeheartedly all the protections of the constitution,” she said.
Well you could always just do a web interface, a well designed modern website isn't really much different from a dedicated app, and easy enough to add a homescreen icon to sort of give it that app feel. Hell, for a lot of things I much preffer a web interface over the dedicated app, and try to avoid it if I can help it at all, like Reddit. Plus much less security concern with a web interface vs an apk/ios app.
But with Apple's general track record, them recently banning Parler, and the general political climate, not really any point in even trying to make an ios app, existing apps will just be forced to ban and comply or they'll just ban those apps themselves, no matter how big. I'd highly recommend any patriots with Apple products seriously reconsider alternatives.
Beat me to it. It's not just sticky material, it needs to stay sticked.
I'm sick of all the "waaaaaah, nobody is helping us and they're all rolling over" posts. The people doing this are rolling over themselves.
I get it. We don't want to be involved in government because we like to mind our own business. But here's something we can do. And I guarantee the left has every such seat filled.
That and an obsession with a kindergarten version of the American Revolution, when we currently have more in common with the Jamestown colonists in 1609 than the Founding Fathers in 1776. Too many people on the right think that if you don't suddenly seize power by force with no way to take care of the population when nearly everything we need either comes from China or requires materials or equipment that does, then you might as well just give up.
One thing that might help is doing some fine-tuning to the conservative narrative. When it comes to both illegal immigration and especially our economic and political relationship with China, the affluent and influential will be much more receptive to arguments based on human rights violations than they have been regarding adverse impacts on our own working class. It won't win their actual support for any particular policies, since that demographic shuns meaningful change in favor of empty words and pointless symbolic gestures, but would attach shame to outright opposing our platform.
The system is rigged both ways, not just for the DNC. There is a reason swamp creatures in the GOP are still there. You can trust nobody, Barr is the best example.
It's not a matter of trusting nobody, it's a matter of researching people extensively. I knew Bill Barr would do jackshit the second he got in there, because I saw him in the Bush years.
Because Republicans for the past 10+ years have had an absolutely retarded view of American politics and its function. There was this attitude to not get involved in media or in tech or in academia or even politics but just "hurr muh business" so you can buy a McMansion and go into debt being a giga-Kulak. I clearly remember right wing online chatter that strongly discouraged anyone from even going to college back in like 2008-2012 or getting involved in politics. I remember when the SJW shit first started breaking into the mainstream around 2014 the only reaction from the right was to laugh at them. Well now all those blue haired freaks have positions of instutional power in media, tech, business, government, and academia and they have NO hangups on using that power to utterly brutalize us.
I even had some lolbertarian dork tell me a few days ago on this website that if any of us gain any sort of institutional power, instead of using that power to help each other or create favorable conditions for us, we should just immediately cuck ourselves because "hurr state power is EVIL!" This exact mindset is the reason we havent done shit.
Exactly. Our founders established this system specifically for us to use it and somewhere along the way right leaning or conservative people were convinced that so much as holding office was something bad. I still see people here say shit like anyone in government or in a place of power in the GOP should quit to "hurr show them for shitting on Trumpism!" like how the fuck does that even make sense?
People hate admin, bureaucracy, meetings, and volunteering. This is all of those, but it does give you power as a conservative if you organize enough allies.
Yep. By the early 80s, they had their people all over the GOP to destroy the party from within. In the 2000s, they began pushing a mild version of the color revolution we are seeing today by saying the Republican Party is corporate pro-war establishment. They got some normies and used that as a tailwind to pretend to be the populist party.
This is absolutely what needs to happen. Patriots need to embrace the grind of our own long march through the institutions. Not the mythical, unreachable One Big Thing that happens once and suddenly gives us the country we want. The former is challenging, frustrating, and demanding but grounded in reality. The latter is at best a LARP that will leave you despairing, and at worst a ruinous catastrophe.
Exactly. A big problem for our side is that its all reactionary and way too late in that Leftist are patient and plan things and then when they do something radical, like say make it illegal for you to pull your kids out of state school sponsored tranny story time, all the right can do is lash out and react in an unproductive manner. This only helps the left further because they can point to us and say "lol look at these crazy conservatives freaking out!"
Remember, politics is all about obtaining institutional power and then using that power to help friends. Thats it. Anyone telling you different (especially these lolbertarian telling you to just cuck yourself the moment you get power) are idiots and the reason we are in the mess we're in now. The whole point of our Republic is for us to govern ourselves through this model anyway.
I feel like most people who are moderately right-leaning (myself included) generally don't care much to take political power. We as individuals would rather shitpost about leftists on the internet than campaign to pass a law that hurts them. Unfortunately, the leftists all enjoy seeking political power; even back in high school they would always do stuff like youth in government. Even if you'd rather ignore the government like a lolbertarian, the government won't ignore you so we have to do this.
No kidding right. I don't want to have power over anyone's lives because I don't want anyone having power over mine.
Unfortunately, to fight tyranny, you have to rise up to it's level and make a stand equally. I'm moving in a few months, but when I land I'm going to see what I can do where I am.
Links for Dan Schulz' precinct project @ wordpress as well as his email, and for the Neighborhood Strategy. These are doable activities that can truly make a difference. Obama and Ron Paul both used these strategies in their campaigns. Remember how Ron Paul turned the political world upside down for awhile?
Yes! Ron Paul made waves using this strategy with a fraction of the support MAGA can bring.
In Nebraska back in ‘12, for example, a small number of Paul supporters did exactly this. It forced the state GOP chair to make some desperate moves to keep them from embarrassing Mitt Romney at his RNC coronation that year.
And we have close to 2 years. If we can just get people started early on, like now, I truly believe it will multiply in participation, enthusiasm, and efficiency.
The point is the really good stuff happens AFTER a person gets appointed or voted in -- they get to know the ins and outs, the vulnerabilities, the VIPS, the best way to get things done or blockade them.
I think it is really important to keep Trump affection at a minimum display and work quietly to fill the ranks with people of MAGA thinking. The time for Trump overwhelming support will be later. Get in, get embedded, make friends, consider it a covert mission to begin with ... I find this all very exciting.
Also, share this info WITH your friends. Get them to apply as PCO’s as well. Fill the halls with fellow pedes! This is what I’m doing at my current job. Getting as many like minded frens to apply and get hired in my mostly left leaning company.
At least someone is into political ambitions. More respectable than all those normiefags who don't do much except pontificating about racism and facemasks.
DNC declared annihilation war on us in 1933 and by Re-launching the Rockefeller foundation plan under a new name.
There is this odd reality that Satanic Cannibal Pedophiles, want to kill off two thirds of the human population [of North America for sure] or at least, a desire to murder the inhabitants that have supported your economy for 200 years- destroy it back to pre-industrial forest over a hedge fund scam.
Some of our best inventions/inventors came from independent small farms.
Calling in the AM, all I could find was the executive supervisor of my county and nothing else, I'm from a small precent so theres a chance I could get it easily.
Nevermind the "this needs to be stickied" shit. Every Pede, fag, and asshoe on this site needs to see if their precinct needs a PCO. If so, sign up for it. Who needs a Patriot Party when we can easily take over the GOP and run it from right here on Patriots.win!!!!
FINALLY this fucking post gets stickied! Im not trying to be some no fun asshole, but why the fuck isnt info like this and viable paths and plans for us to take political action stickied more often instead of the same old facebook boomer memes?
Much better than this doomed Patriot Party nonsense. Just take over the GOP at the state level, change state election laws to prevent fraud and then boot the national elected Rs out.
Republicans are majority legislatures in MI, WI, PA; AZ, GA and yet did nothing and infact helped in the coverup. Republicans are the majority in Maricopa county and yet are refusing to have an audit. It is amusing how some are acting like the base in those states did nothing. They gave republicans control and got screwed. Forgive them for thinking the GOP is rotten and corrupt to the core and maybe a new party is needed.
The circumstances we are in are ripe for a new party. There will never be a better time than this. Courage is all that is needed.
And yet people are already telling us seats in those states are vacant. Instead of just shouting "do something" on a forum, get into a position where you decide what to do about those elections.
My experience is similar, but Minnesota is slightly different.
In 2016, I showed up at the caucus and nominated myself as a delegate from my precinct to the county organization. There were only a few people from my precinct there, and they were happy to let me have it. (There are multiple slots per precinct - we all could have had it if we had wanted to.)
Next thing I know, I'm giving a brief speech at the county convention. At the time, I was the only person openly supporting Trump (they are all rabidly pro-Trump now). After that I know, I'm a delegate from the county to the state convention. I'm reasonably sure that I could have managed to win a seat in the national convention if I'd tried.
I go to one or two meetings every month (my local county organization, and my congressional district), and a few conventions per year, where I have voting rights. I get to vote on changes to party rules and bylaws, statewide party director and other officer roles, who we endorse for every seat from state representative up to President.
I'm also on a first name basis with my state rep and my state senator. Normally I wouldn't give a fuck about that, but they are both pretty based guys. I also got to talk to my congressional candidates before they were famous and give them a very pro-MAGA assessment of what the voters expected from them.
The moral of the story is: show up. It isn't hard.
This is true and this is a good idea. We did this in 2008 when we were trying to get Ron Paul elected. I became a precinct officer (there is usually more than one position per precinct too). You do get voting rights. They still screwed us over with Ron Paul, but we did not have the majority. They will look at you like “who are you to crash my party I OWN this” so be ready. You need to dress nice, never be late, know Roberts rules of order. It’s stuffy. But he’s right, you can affect change this way. It only requires a few weekends
Yes, and I don't think going in with Trump regala or pepe or anything is a good idea at this time. It will take a long while to prove that you are one with their agenda, while advancing your own. This is how Newt took over the House with republicans for the first time in 40 years. They met in far out of the way cloak rooms because they didn't want to draw undue attention until, that is, election night. This should be considered a covert mission. The people already active for the most part are stuffed shirts and as touchy as most libs when it comes to their turf.
It will also help if you go in with some practical ideas to make things better, based on the local needs/problems. If you can show you have talent, people will follow you.
STICKY!!! Come one mobilize, become PCOs right now!! I am not american, I don't even live in the US, otherwise I would be doing that today! Please frens, save america, save the world!
This is exactly the way that Dems have taken over so many "working level" positions in the country, and there is absolutely no reason that we should not do exactly the same thing. Get involved in politics at the local level. Get out the vote. Ensure that elections are LEGAL and FAIR. Nothing wrong with any of that. We tend to grumble a lot because things are not being done the right way in this country, but how many of us are willing to get off our butts, take one of these unfilled slots, and get busy seeing that our candidates are elected? And then held to the line? Good idea, and its time may have come.
The Ron Paul movement tried all of this in 2008 and again in 2009 and 2010.
The Republican Party welcomed us like a venereal disease.
In Nevada, where the Ron Paul delegates were completely successful, the Reprobate Party degenerates shut down the state convention by telling the legacy members to leave the event. After those members walked out, the degenerates running the meeting said they no longer had a quorum, so they were shutting down the convention. They then rescheduled it for several weeks later on the other end of the state, where they proceeded to ram Juan McAmnesty up America's ass.
The GOP is a degenerate sack of shit, and with any luck, it will burn in hell for all of eternity.
The GOP has offered us nothing except traitors and miscreant grifters. These are the motherfuckers who fought Reagan and fought Trump, but gleefully handed us Bush, Cheney, McCain, Romney the Commie, and a slew of other assholes who should be stripped of their citizenship.
I’ll tell you what you’ve got to to aswell. Quit pornography, reduce screen time, start working out, spend time outdoors, eat natural, read more books, don’t waste your time. Most importantly, find refuge in our Lord Jesus. Do this, and you will have scared the piss out of those in power.
Agree 💯 with this. Embrace all that of what it means to be what they hate. Dumb rednecks and autists who have their shit together as a formidable force collectively.
For me, I am done with the GOP, and its difficult to imagine any scenario where I would ever support them again (and I used to be quite involved and financially supportive). That being said, I definitely support taking back and reforming the GOP. And I would defintly support a good GOP candidate, in spite of party affiliation. In fact, having a healthy GOP and new conservative party could be mutually beneficial. The two parties could actually keep each other sharp, as candidates compete for conservative vote. And once elected, the two parties can team up for America First.
I could see infiltrating the GOP for future destruction, and moving people to a new party. BUT the GOP is a waste of time in the long run. People have been trying to change the Republicans to be more conservative for as long as I can remember, and not even the Tea Party could do it. The GOP needs thrown into the ocean in the long run.
I will do this. Sounds like a good use of some spare time to help bring us back to the America I grew up in. I have good public speaking and argumentation skills. We only need a few percent of us to do this.
Hey mods, make a sub specific for this so people can post information they find on vacancies and and how to apply. Coordination will be key so give a place to work together on it.
Everyone needs to know that the GOP will not give up power willingly. I’ve seen this first hand. I was there at my county meeting that elected representatives to the county and state convention when a large contingent of Ron Paul supporters attempted this. They were very overt in what they were doing. I was a Ron Paul supporter and kept it under wraps. I worked for a few years on this. The Paul supporters were seen as a threat to the party and the county GOP CHANGED AND IGNORED THEIR OWN RULES so to not allow the Ron Paul’s supports to go to on to the state convention or have any say in the process.
They ignored ALL CHALLENGES to the electors list to the state and county conventions. The GOP even ignored a signed request by an elector to willing give up his seat to allow another individual to go in his place. The list or electors was literally made in the back room and it had to be voted on in entirety. If rejected, the entire list would have to be gone through name by name. This was against the rules that they had literally just voted on.
A young patriot pointed this out and was unceremoniously shouted down by the entire crowd. He was right. The GOP is rotten from the local level. These people are NOT YOUR Friends. They can not be trusted and will lie to your face to keep you from any shred of power. It sickened me and I left the GOP that day
We need to do the same. We don't need to follow the rules, because the top is illegitimate. Just kick the RINOs out and ignore any rule that wont allow you to do it.
This is about taking back freedom. We cannot let commies have control of the country.
There are no rules as long as commies are in power.
Wrong, we need to be in a position to MAKE the rules. Follow the rules but say “NO” loudly when they ignore or break them. Do not compromise.
These people try to use procedures to cloud the issues and hide their actions. They also use things like holding back letting everyone go eat to push through their agenda and do the controversial rush voting when everyone wants to just leave and go home.
This isn’t about just getting butts is seats, it’s about the bullshit mechanisms and procedures that keep these clowns in power. Rip it from them and make them suck on it
The motivations behind this post I fully support, but I don't think taking over the GoP is the best path for the long term survival of populism or Trumpism or whatever you want to call it.
The GoP can and WILL alter rules for their political party if we ever did get a lot of traction. You can think about this like the DNC lawsuits in 2016 over how they treated Bernie Sanders. Their defense was essentially "It's our primary and we can rig it if we want too," and the courts were like "Welp OK, Case dismissed!"
The best way to focus our political will is to just leave the idiot swamp creatures with their "party" and form our own. We might not win the presidency anytime soon, but WE weren't going to win the presidency any time soon either way, the swamp creatures in the GoP would make certain of that.
That's the 20 year plus plan.
It's not going to take 20 year to work.
It will take 20 years to find out it didn't.
I have a better plan.
We destroy the GOP right now and start our own Party. The person who would have started at the bottom under this ridiculously moronic plan from 4chan, will be in the House and Senate in 4 years.
Also realize that being a PCO (or PCP) is a zero hour/week job. It’s all volunteer and based on your drive to change things in your precinct. Not much is demanded from you, but you can play a very distinct role in your county just by attending and voting in your monthly GOP meeting.
This is a great post and rebuttal to the idea of dropping out of the GOP. I know dropping out has been mentioned frequently and forming our own party, but there is already one built just sitting there.
The biggest problem with the GOP has been the disconnect between the actual politicians and their base to the point where most of us greatly question their sincerity. The leaders seem uncomfortable or uninterested in actually fighting for their base and the base is left with no true representation. It seems like the easiest path then is to replace or augment the existing politicians who aren't representing their base with patriots who will fight for them the way that Trump did.
They will just print illegal ballets and count what ever they want. What we need to do is take over the vote counting operation. We would not even have to break the law like they did we just want to count all the votes
It's not quite as easy as it seems. They pulled it off this time, but very few people thought they would be just brazen, they really caught people by surprise. Hardly anyone even knew about the electronic voting machines, that could count fractional votes etc. Plus it was a perfect storm with the pandemic and the changed voting rules for mail in ballots. Lastly most likely the economy will be weak in 2024 on top of these other things.
That's a sticky material
Yeah, this needs to be stickied. This is direct action people can take, instead of posting shit on here, go and do this!
I mean I've been saying for literally months that it was totally pointless to start a third party when we LITERALLY can take over the GOP.
It's one thing to whine and say "We can take it over!" It's another thing to actually help people find a path to take it over.
Anyone can criticize. Leaders show the way.
This post is simply the next logical step from this:
https://rumble.com/vdmgkl-dan-schultz-on-taking-over-the-gop.html
It's a good step, too.
Just emailed my chairman about the open position my district has on the finance committee.
Gonna hijack this comment a little to say if any technical Pede can create an app for us it would help make it (the fight) a lot easier.
If millions of us had it and it allowed us to help organize and communicate on a local level, while still keeping us connected country-wide, we could do so many more things.
As an example.....part of the app could let us advertise our businesses locally, helping us to wean ourselves off the big corporate stores.
Why not just have a .win dedicated to this?
Yeah. I have asked the mod to create a Voting Community. Probably really busy.
Exactly. We need .wins for each state and each county.
I’m a Dev and have various ideas for apps/sites. I like this idea. What other sort of things would people like to see?
A county map of the US (like those that show how counties voted) that can be tagged as vacant with a link to how you can fill it?
Combined with an organizational chart for each state and links to that states specific party rules.
We are 3100 Counties. (Technically 3143)
There are many of us who are thinking exactly this, even at a rough planning stage.
Scott Kesterson did a series last year, “County by County” and Bards is developing either a platform or app(?).
Wallace Farms in Iowa launched “99 Counties” which is primarily focused on food security but depends on retaking leadership at the local level across the state.
Not recommending doxxing oneself but heck if we got a legit working group together, I’m in.
Data visualization with tools like Tableau or Power BI
Open political seats.
a community ran quick reference resource library with an edit history/log...could double as an faq. Also a basic means of communication with optional filtering components.
Check out my previous post. (It's a bit of a text wall... be warned... but it illustrates the point.)
Game Plan
I think we can win easily, and it could be yuuugely fun kicking the establishment's cracks in!!!
We just need a way to coordinate our efforts... The game theory is there... full disclosure...I'm an R-Tard when it comes to programming. Microsoft Excel is about my max capability...
Commented over there. I like the idea and think you're right we need some sites/apps in addition to patriots.win. This site is great for discussion, news, memes. But as the dust settles, we need a solid, legal plan and action. Matt Braynard's projects are another to keep an eye on IMO.
A "Near Me" option that shows which political seats/offices are close-by and whether they're vacant or filled.
Sub-option: ability to set how close is "close-by."
Uh, that’s why Duncan Lemp was murdered!
How come I never heard about this?
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/duncan-socrates-lemp-maryland-shot-police-officer
The dude was shot because he "confronted" police while asleep in his bed?
That's as absurd as suicide by two shots the head.
Friends said they never heard Lemp espouse any anti-government rhetoric. Sandler said Lemp was not a part of any anti-government or militia-type group.
“He was pro-America and supported wholeheartedly all the protections of the constitution,” she said.
So he was anti-government.
It was a sniper outside the house that shot him. Darn the luck none of the cops had their video cameras turned on.
That's Montgomery county for you. An tyrannical shit hole.
Sadly, I know from first hand experience. I've lived in the county for 35 years
Is there an existing app we can use? because one created by us for this purpose will get banned from the app stores
So what?
You don't need the app store to download an app.
On Android it's easy. Not so much on iOS and there are a lot of iPhone users out there
You don't need an app store to install an apk on android
I know, but iOS users are about half the user base and it's more difficult on apple
Well you could always just do a web interface, a well designed modern website isn't really much different from a dedicated app, and easy enough to add a homescreen icon to sort of give it that app feel. Hell, for a lot of things I much preffer a web interface over the dedicated app, and try to avoid it if I can help it at all, like Reddit. Plus much less security concern with a web interface vs an apk/ios app.
But with Apple's general track record, them recently banning Parler, and the general political climate, not really any point in even trying to make an ios app, existing apps will just be forced to ban and comply or they'll just ban those apps themselves, no matter how big. I'd highly recommend any patriots with Apple products seriously reconsider alternatives.
I dunno, maybe if we put "daddy" in the title, mods will leave it up for a month.
Start dropping links to this post in relevant places in other comment sections to help keep visibility up until mods hopefully sticky.
Maybe for all of 2021, even. Sidebar this gold bar.
Beat me to it. It's not just sticky material, it needs to stay sticked.
I'm sick of all the "waaaaaah, nobody is helping us and they're all rolling over" posts. The people doing this are rolling over themselves.
I get it. We don't want to be involved in government because we like to mind our own business. But here's something we can do. And I guarantee the left has every such seat filled.
That and an obsession with a kindergarten version of the American Revolution, when we currently have more in common with the Jamestown colonists in 1609 than the Founding Fathers in 1776. Too many people on the right think that if you don't suddenly seize power by force with no way to take care of the population when nearly everything we need either comes from China or requires materials or equipment that does, then you might as well just give up.
One thing that might help is doing some fine-tuning to the conservative narrative. When it comes to both illegal immigration and especially our economic and political relationship with China, the affluent and influential will be much more receptive to arguments based on human rights violations than they have been regarding adverse impacts on our own working class. It won't win their actual support for any particular policies, since that demographic shuns meaningful change in favor of empty words and pointless symbolic gestures, but would attach shame to outright opposing our platform.
This was explained on Bannon's warroom.
https://rumble.com/vdmgkl-dan-schultz-on-taking-over-the-gop.html
Basically, Trump was going to save us. Now it's time to do it ourselves.
Since the scam inauguration I've gotten involved in a very conservative candidate's campaign for governor and got access to VOTER DATA.
The first assignment was to contact the Precinct Committeemen about a vote they were having.
If this doesn't work out, you can walk away with the data and insider contacts to form a new Trump Patriot Party.
Awaiting orders from our MAGA Commander in Chief, but not sitting around.
Trust the chan is the new trust the plan apparently. If it is that easy to take over the GOP, why haven't we done it in the last 4 years.
Because everyone was being complacent instead of actually joining the party.
The system is rigged both ways, not just for the DNC. There is a reason swamp creatures in the GOP are still there. You can trust nobody, Barr is the best example.
It's not a matter of trusting nobody, it's a matter of researching people extensively. I knew Bill Barr would do jackshit the second he got in there, because I saw him in the Bush years.
Nah we just weren't taking action. We need to start taking action now, we have the numbers. We can get shit done.
Because Republicans for the past 10+ years have had an absolutely retarded view of American politics and its function. There was this attitude to not get involved in media or in tech or in academia or even politics but just "hurr muh business" so you can buy a McMansion and go into debt being a giga-Kulak. I clearly remember right wing online chatter that strongly discouraged anyone from even going to college back in like 2008-2012 or getting involved in politics. I remember when the SJW shit first started breaking into the mainstream around 2014 the only reaction from the right was to laugh at them. Well now all those blue haired freaks have positions of instutional power in media, tech, business, government, and academia and they have NO hangups on using that power to utterly brutalize us.
I even had some lolbertarian dork tell me a few days ago on this website that if any of us gain any sort of institutional power, instead of using that power to help each other or create favorable conditions for us, we should just immediately cuck ourselves because "hurr state power is EVIL!" This exact mindset is the reason we havent done shit.
I've seen so many people here refer to government jobs as welfare. Those same people can't figure out why democrats run everything.
rofl
Exactly. Our founders established this system specifically for us to use it and somewhere along the way right leaning or conservative people were convinced that so much as holding office was something bad. I still see people here say shit like anyone in government or in a place of power in the GOP should quit to "hurr show them for shitting on Trumpism!" like how the fuck does that even make sense?
"hurr muh business"** LMAO
People hate admin, bureaucracy, meetings, and volunteering. This is all of those, but it does give you power as a conservative if you organize enough allies.
Because it's easier to tweet than to meet
Because ignorance prevents meaningful action.
This needs to be stikied before leftist larp and take over the gop
That's how they already did it
Yep. By the early 80s, they had their people all over the GOP to destroy the party from within. In the 2000s, they began pushing a mild version of the color revolution we are seeing today by saying the Republican Party is corporate pro-war establishment. They got some normies and used that as a tailwind to pretend to be the populist party.
You meant to say this needs to be stickied so that we can take it back from leftitsts.
This is absolutely what needs to happen. Patriots need to embrace the grind of our own long march through the institutions. Not the mythical, unreachable One Big Thing that happens once and suddenly gives us the country we want. The former is challenging, frustrating, and demanding but grounded in reality. The latter is at best a LARP that will leave you despairing, and at worst a ruinous catastrophe.
Exactly. A big problem for our side is that its all reactionary and way too late in that Leftist are patient and plan things and then when they do something radical, like say make it illegal for you to pull your kids out of state school sponsored tranny story time, all the right can do is lash out and react in an unproductive manner. This only helps the left further because they can point to us and say "lol look at these crazy conservatives freaking out!"
Remember, politics is all about obtaining institutional power and then using that power to help friends. Thats it. Anyone telling you different (especially these lolbertarian telling you to just cuck yourself the moment you get power) are idiots and the reason we are in the mess we're in now. The whole point of our Republic is for us to govern ourselves through this model anyway.
I feel like most people who are moderately right-leaning (myself included) generally don't care much to take political power. We as individuals would rather shitpost about leftists on the internet than campaign to pass a law that hurts them. Unfortunately, the leftists all enjoy seeking political power; even back in high school they would always do stuff like youth in government. Even if you'd rather ignore the government like a lolbertarian, the government won't ignore you so we have to do this.
No kidding right. I don't want to have power over anyone's lives because I don't want anyone having power over mine.
Unfortunately, to fight tyranny, you have to rise up to it's level and make a stand equally. I'm moving in a few months, but when I land I'm going to see what I can do where I am.
Yep. This is a life long effort.
Links for Dan Schulz' precinct project @ wordpress as well as his email, and for the Neighborhood Strategy. These are doable activities that can truly make a difference. Obama and Ron Paul both used these strategies in their campaigns. Remember how Ron Paul turned the political world upside down for awhile?
https://theprecinctproject.wordpess.com
[email protected]
The Neighborhood Precinct Committeeman Strategy can be found at http://precinctproject.us
Yes! Ron Paul made waves using this strategy with a fraction of the support MAGA can bring.
In Nebraska back in ‘12, for example, a small number of Paul supporters did exactly this. It forced the state GOP chair to make some desperate moves to keep them from embarrassing Mitt Romney at his RNC coronation that year.
Yes, cleaning up in ones backyard before complaining about any others is alpha and omega.
Headline: "GOP scrambles to handle massive nationwide influx of new pro-Trump precinct committee members"
Hell yeah.
That last link doesn't work (PCS).
And we have close to 2 years. If we can just get people started early on, like now, I truly believe it will multiply in participation, enthusiasm, and efficiency.
The point is the really good stuff happens AFTER a person gets appointed or voted in -- they get to know the ins and outs, the vulnerabilities, the VIPS, the best way to get things done or blockade them.
I think it is really important to keep Trump affection at a minimum display and work quietly to fill the ranks with people of MAGA thinking. The time for Trump overwhelming support will be later. Get in, get embedded, make friends, consider it a covert mission to begin with ... I find this all very exciting.
We also need to start ASAP before the commies larp there way back in since the chairs are asleep at the wheel.
The RINOs might try and end the vacant positions. We need to get in first.
Also, share this info WITH your friends. Get them to apply as PCO’s as well. Fill the halls with fellow pedes! This is what I’m doing at my current job. Getting as many like minded frens to apply and get hired in my mostly left leaning company.
Why not take over democrats? Those people need some deradicalizing
Why not then, BOTH? WE ARE the PEOPLE!
The DNC-anon vs. GOP-anon war will destroy america.
Like we aren't already there...
At least someone is into political ambitions. More respectable than all those normiefags who don't do much except pontificating about racism and facemasks.
DNC declared annihilation war on us in 1933 and by Re-launching the Rockefeller foundation plan under a new name.
There is this odd reality that Satanic Cannibal Pedophiles, want to kill off two thirds of the human population [of North America for sure] or at least, a desire to murder the inhabitants that have supported your economy for 200 years- destroy it back to pre-industrial forest over a hedge fund scam.
Some of our best inventions/inventors came from independent small farms.
Cause it’s fucking hard, you have to pretend to be a commie-hippie for years without slipping up once. I don’t think I’d last more than one meeting.
What the fuck are you reading this comment for?? Go get yourselves a spot! Then recruit your Patriot friends.
OP, this is great. Keep reposting it at different times of the day until it gets stickied.
À and in the comments like many have been doing
Yes. Excellent post that should be stickied.
Out of curiousity, who here is going to be doing this?
i send to 3 friends and all registered
Contact your MAGA family members and friends, get them to register and participate - easy win.
Me! My county GOP had a meeting this week and I was the only person from my precinct who showed up. Guess who’s a precinct captain?
Calling in the AM, all I could find was the executive supervisor of my county and nothing else, I'm from a small precent so theres a chance I could get it easily.
I just downloaded the application from my county’s party. I may apply, but waiting to see what direction Trump goes regarding a possible third party.
Don't hold your breath. Work with what we have until then
Sounds just like the Republican City Committee in my city...
This is par for the course in any kind of meeting. Ever been to a HOA or Condo board meeting? It’s this.
I checked my county GOP and the are going through ReOrg. My county is reorganizing at the precinct level and I am going to get involved!
Great. What did you ask them? I don’t even know how to start. My county is not very transparent about this.
Find their Facebook page and ask how you can become a delegate.
Thx! Calling today! Someone downvoted me lol
This is the way. Lord’s work.
This guy does a tremendous job too ! https://gab.com/scottpresler
Nevermind the "this needs to be stickied" shit. Every Pede, fag, and asshoe on this site needs to see if their precinct needs a PCO. If so, sign up for it. Who needs a Patriot Party when we can easily take over the GOP and run it from right here on Patriots.win!!!!
Exactly this. The fucking boomers that do the majority of the voting are too stupid to vote third party. Our best option is to take the GOP
FINALLY this fucking post gets stickied! Im not trying to be some no fun asshole, but why the fuck isnt info like this and viable paths and plans for us to take political action stickied more often instead of the same old facebook boomer memes?
This post probably needs to be posted every day until it gets stickied.
Each person who gets ready to primary, post somewhere so we can promote that person.
Don't forget to campaign wearing pepe or apu.
Much better than this doomed Patriot Party nonsense. Just take over the GOP at the state level, change state election laws to prevent fraud and then boot the national elected Rs out.
Republicans are majority legislatures in MI, WI, PA; AZ, GA and yet did nothing and infact helped in the coverup. Republicans are the majority in Maricopa county and yet are refusing to have an audit. It is amusing how some are acting like the base in those states did nothing. They gave republicans control and got screwed. Forgive them for thinking the GOP is rotten and corrupt to the core and maybe a new party is needed.
The circumstances we are in are ripe for a new party. There will never be a better time than this. Courage is all that is needed.
And yet people are already telling us seats in those states are vacant. Instead of just shouting "do something" on a forum, get into a position where you decide what to do about those elections.
A PC is not a legislature. PCs do not change state election laws.
Nobody is claiming they do. PCs determine policy however, and get some influence in the party itself.
It's certainly not the only answer either. This is really just adding to a growing pile of actions that can be taken.
Video version of what you said here: https://patriots.win/p/12hRGznbbc/take-over-the-gop--this-is-the-w/
My experience is similar, but Minnesota is slightly different.
In 2016, I showed up at the caucus and nominated myself as a delegate from my precinct to the county organization. There were only a few people from my precinct there, and they were happy to let me have it. (There are multiple slots per precinct - we all could have had it if we had wanted to.)
Next thing I know, I'm giving a brief speech at the county convention. At the time, I was the only person openly supporting Trump (they are all rabidly pro-Trump now). After that I know, I'm a delegate from the county to the state convention. I'm reasonably sure that I could have managed to win a seat in the national convention if I'd tried.
I go to one or two meetings every month (my local county organization, and my congressional district), and a few conventions per year, where I have voting rights. I get to vote on changes to party rules and bylaws, statewide party director and other officer roles, who we endorse for every seat from state representative up to President.
I'm also on a first name basis with my state rep and my state senator. Normally I wouldn't give a fuck about that, but they are both pretty based guys. I also got to talk to my congressional candidates before they were famous and give them a very pro-MAGA assessment of what the voters expected from them.
The moral of the story is: show up. It isn't hard.
Please perma sticky this. Everyone needs to see this.
This is true and this is a good idea. We did this in 2008 when we were trying to get Ron Paul elected. I became a precinct officer (there is usually more than one position per precinct too). You do get voting rights. They still screwed us over with Ron Paul, but we did not have the majority. They will look at you like “who are you to crash my party I OWN this” so be ready. You need to dress nice, never be late, know Roberts rules of order. It’s stuffy. But he’s right, you can affect change this way. It only requires a few weekends
Yes, and I don't think going in with Trump regala or pepe or anything is a good idea at this time. It will take a long while to prove that you are one with their agenda, while advancing your own. This is how Newt took over the House with republicans for the first time in 40 years. They met in far out of the way cloak rooms because they didn't want to draw undue attention until, that is, election night. This should be considered a covert mission. The people already active for the most part are stuffed shirts and as touchy as most libs when it comes to their turf.
Agree 💯
It will also help if you go in with some practical ideas to make things better, based on the local needs/problems. If you can show you have talent, people will follow you.
This is so helpful! Is it possible to get in contact with you? I’m in MI too and have been racking my brain on how to help.
We complain about feeling dis-enfranchised, but we dis-enfranchise ourselves by not getting involved.
Get this stickied!
How do you build a house? You start with the foundation!!!
STICKY!!! Come one mobilize, become PCOs right now!! I am not american, I don't even live in the US, otherwise I would be doing that today! Please frens, save america, save the world!
STICKY
This is exactly the way that Dems have taken over so many "working level" positions in the country, and there is absolutely no reason that we should not do exactly the same thing. Get involved in politics at the local level. Get out the vote. Ensure that elections are LEGAL and FAIR. Nothing wrong with any of that. We tend to grumble a lot because things are not being done the right way in this country, but how many of us are willing to get off our butts, take one of these unfilled slots, and get busy seeing that our candidates are elected? And then held to the line? Good idea, and its time may have come.
The Ron Paul movement tried all of this in 2008 and again in 2009 and 2010.
The Republican Party welcomed us like a venereal disease.
In Nevada, where the Ron Paul delegates were completely successful, the Reprobate Party degenerates shut down the state convention by telling the legacy members to leave the event. After those members walked out, the degenerates running the meeting said they no longer had a quorum, so they were shutting down the convention. They then rescheduled it for several weeks later on the other end of the state, where they proceeded to ram Juan McAmnesty up America's ass.
The GOP is a degenerate sack of shit, and with any luck, it will burn in hell for all of eternity.
The GOP has offered us nothing except traitors and miscreant grifters. These are the motherfuckers who fought Reagan and fought Trump, but gleefully handed us Bush, Cheney, McCain, Romney the Commie, and a slew of other assholes who should be stripped of their citizenship.
The riggers are here. We need to fill these spots before they do.
This needs to happen!
I’ll tell you what you’ve got to to aswell. Quit pornography, reduce screen time, start working out, spend time outdoors, eat natural, read more books, don’t waste your time. Most importantly, find refuge in our Lord Jesus. Do this, and you will have scared the piss out of those in power.
Agree 💯 with this. Embrace all that of what it means to be what they hate. Dumb rednecks and autists who have their shit together as a formidable force collectively.
For me, I am done with the GOP, and its difficult to imagine any scenario where I would ever support them again (and I used to be quite involved and financially supportive). That being said, I definitely support taking back and reforming the GOP. And I would defintly support a good GOP candidate, in spite of party affiliation. In fact, having a healthy GOP and new conservative party could be mutually beneficial. The two parties could actually keep each other sharp, as candidates compete for conservative vote. And once elected, the two parties can team up for America First.
I could see infiltrating the GOP for future destruction, and moving people to a new party. BUT the GOP is a waste of time in the long run. People have been trying to change the Republicans to be more conservative for as long as I can remember, and not even the Tea Party could do it. The GOP needs thrown into the ocean in the long run.
Notice how almost all the posts in this thread are constructed.
-what you have here is an entire thread filled with chinese wumao steering you to an action that would take a generation to accomplish.
yeah... Organizing legitimate political activity is stupid and not what this site was made for.
This is what this site was made for: To log in and look at memes of veggie pizza being offered to a dog and read high grade stickies like
I guess our new plan is to quietly seethe in our little containment zone, forever.
A generation? 2/3 of these seats were unoccupied in the poster's region, and possibly in yours as well. This could happen overnight.
What is your alternate method?
I will do this. Sounds like a good use of some spare time to help bring us back to the America I grew up in. I have good public speaking and argumentation skills. We only need a few percent of us to do this.
Just 3% per some estimates.
THIS. 100% THIS.
STOP DOOMING. START DOING.
This is the 3rd time I've seen this posted here. Glad it's finally getting some attention!
I signed up and will get other america first citizens to add well.
Thank you, I will keep on it for mine. Follow up and actually talk to someone.
Hey mods, make a sub specific for this so people can post information they find on vacancies and and how to apply. Coordination will be key so give a place to work together on it.
Everyone needs to know that the GOP will not give up power willingly. I’ve seen this first hand. I was there at my county meeting that elected representatives to the county and state convention when a large contingent of Ron Paul supporters attempted this. They were very overt in what they were doing. I was a Ron Paul supporter and kept it under wraps. I worked for a few years on this. The Paul supporters were seen as a threat to the party and the county GOP CHANGED AND IGNORED THEIR OWN RULES so to not allow the Ron Paul’s supports to go to on to the state convention or have any say in the process.
They ignored ALL CHALLENGES to the electors list to the state and county conventions. The GOP even ignored a signed request by an elector to willing give up his seat to allow another individual to go in his place. The list or electors was literally made in the back room and it had to be voted on in entirety. If rejected, the entire list would have to be gone through name by name. This was against the rules that they had literally just voted on.
A young patriot pointed this out and was unceremoniously shouted down by the entire crowd. He was right. The GOP is rotten from the local level. These people are NOT YOUR Friends. They can not be trusted and will lie to your face to keep you from any shred of power. It sickened me and I left the GOP that day
We need to do the same. We don't need to follow the rules, because the top is illegitimate. Just kick the RINOs out and ignore any rule that wont allow you to do it.
This is about taking back freedom. We cannot let commies have control of the country.
There are no rules as long as commies are in power.
Wrong, we need to be in a position to MAKE the rules. Follow the rules but say “NO” loudly when they ignore or break them. Do not compromise.
These people try to use procedures to cloud the issues and hide their actions. They also use things like holding back letting everyone go eat to push through their agenda and do the controversial rush voting when everyone wants to just leave and go home.
This isn’t about just getting butts is seats, it’s about the bullshit mechanisms and procedures that keep these clowns in power. Rip it from them and make them suck on it
The motivations behind this post I fully support, but I don't think taking over the GoP is the best path for the long term survival of populism or Trumpism or whatever you want to call it.
The GoP can and WILL alter rules for their political party if we ever did get a lot of traction. You can think about this like the DNC lawsuits in 2016 over how they treated Bernie Sanders. Their defense was essentially "It's our primary and we can rig it if we want too," and the courts were like "Welp OK, Case dismissed!"
The best way to focus our political will is to just leave the idiot swamp creatures with their "party" and form our own. We might not win the presidency anytime soon, but WE weren't going to win the presidency any time soon either way, the swamp creatures in the GoP would make certain of that.
That's the 20 year plus plan. It's not going to take 20 year to work. It will take 20 years to find out it didn't. I have a better plan. We destroy the GOP right now and start our own Party. The person who would have started at the bottom under this ridiculously moronic plan from 4chan, will be in the House and Senate in 4 years.
Also realize that being a PCO (or PCP) is a zero hour/week job. It’s all volunteer and based on your drive to change things in your precinct. Not much is demanded from you, but you can play a very distinct role in your county just by attending and voting in your monthly GOP meeting.
This is a great post and rebuttal to the idea of dropping out of the GOP. I know dropping out has been mentioned frequently and forming our own party, but there is already one built just sitting there.
The biggest problem with the GOP has been the disconnect between the actual politicians and their base to the point where most of us greatly question their sincerity. The leaders seem uncomfortable or uninterested in actually fighting for their base and the base is left with no true representation. It seems like the easiest path then is to replace or augment the existing politicians who aren't representing their base with patriots who will fight for them the way that Trump did.
I saved this post for future reference. I'll look into Riverside County GOP on what is available here in the county.
San bernardino here, hi neighborino! Ill be doing the same.
They will just print illegal ballets and count what ever they want. What we need to do is take over the vote counting operation. We would not even have to break the law like they did we just want to count all the votes
It's not quite as easy as it seems. They pulled it off this time, but very few people thought they would be just brazen, they really caught people by surprise. Hardly anyone even knew about the electronic voting machines, that could count fractional votes etc. Plus it was a perfect storm with the pandemic and the changed voting rules for mail in ballots. Lastly most likely the economy will be weak in 2024 on top of these other things.