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posted ago by HighVoltage ago by HighVoltage +10 / -0

Those of us who have been in this game for a long time have already been down this path. Some went down this path when Pat Buchanan was making waves. Some did it when it was Ron Paul in 2008 and the Tea Party movement after that.

In each case, the establishment proved they could produce any number of tricks to keep people from having real influence within the party. It isn't an organic organization that listens to its members. It's a giant club, and they will make sure you're not in it.

Here is one example:

In 2008-2009, Ron Paul supporters had organized very effectively to take over the mass precinct meetings. They were successful in many more instances than you would imagine. Yugely successful in fact.

This sent many Ron Paul delegates from their mass precincts to the county and district conventions, where the real fun began. The goal of course was to make it to the state conventions, where the party would vote on the platform, endorse Juan McNoName, and hear other business.

If you are internet-savvy, you can dig up many many accounts of how this shit show went down. You don't need to look that hard in fact.

Here are two examples:

  1. In Georgia, the man running the convention skillfully changed the rules in mid-process right there on the stage of the state convention. The establishment GOP also tried to force people to pay for entry into the event, which has a cover charge that is not enforced if some one can't pay for it. The state GOP was not at all shy about their hatred of the crowd that showed up with their US Constitutions in hand to advocate a Constitutional government. The GOP was all too happy to applaud human garbage like Johnny Isakson and cheered for the nomination of Juan McAmnesty.

  2. In Nevada, the Ron Paul crowd was so effective that they actually took over the State GOP convention. The people running the convention then told their legacy members to leave the convention. When they did like good little statist sheep and obeyed their degenerate GOP masters, the scum running the meeting then said they no longer had a quorum and therefore must terminate the proceedings. They did exactly that and then rescheduled the convention on the other side of the state many weeks later.

You see, these are just two examples of the malfeasance in the Reprobate Party. The stories of these shenanigans abound, and they aren't hard to find.

Now, you have a few choices. You can either pretend it is possible to reform a broken party that hates America and hates you, or you can accept reality and proceed like an adult.

No one would join the mafia thinking they are going to make it more responsive to the people it fleeces.

All of this babbling, mumbling, hoorah-ing, and jostling to encourage a takeover of the GOP is a colossal waste of time.

It has all been tried before.

The GOP will change the rules on you mid-stream and if you think you are going to win, just wait until they shut down the entire process and return with the rules re-written to make sure you are shut out. You have never seen such smoke and mirrors, deception, and crookedness as what you will see inside the GOP.

But don't worry, it will only take you a lot of money and a few years of your time to realize what I just told you for free in the time it took you to read a few paragraphs.

Put your time into something productive. Don't be a cuck thinking you are going to fix the GOP and use it to MAGA. It is your enemy and it is the enemy of all America-loving Patriots.

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TrumpWinz 2 points ago +2 / -0

Going to do it again anyway, this time in bigger numbers. Building a new party will take decades. Or we could just have a civil war which is probably where we are headed anyway.

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HighVoltage [S] 1 point ago +1 / -0

Please don't encourage people to get involved with the GOP. It is going to end really badly, and absolutely nothing is going to be gained by joining the GOP.

Listen to the people who have already done this. The last two times it was done were not small numbers of people. The groundswell of support was huge.

Building a new party right now would take about 45 minutes, not decades, and there's no reason to pretend we can save the GOP or that we would even want to. Personally, I hope the GOP burns for all of eternity in the hottest corner of hell.

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TrumpWinz 1 point ago +1 / -0

You could build a party tonight. It would be you and 3 other people and that would be it. Building it to any material size would take decades.

I've been involved with local politics in my county. A few years back I helped a guy by the name of Kevin Roberts campaign against Dan Crenshaw. I was not deeply involved but I would help out with fliers, signs, meet and greets, stuff in local chambers of commerce.

There's no way some upstart party could get a ground game going, phone banking, get name recognition, do the legwork etc needed to get meaningful traction. Then there's all the horse trading and insider baseball stuff that goes on once you get in office and have to build a coalition.

What people need to understand is that politics is a dirty game and at the end of the day nobody gives a shit if you cheat and get caught as long as you win.

That is the reality we are dealing with. Boo hoo, you got screwed by some GOP shitheads. That's life and it's time to realize that you may have to thump some skulls and break some rules but that's been the game of politics since ancient Rome.