Vents are harder on the body than anyone can ever imagine. Spouse survived massive heart attack- vent they were put on afterwards screwed them up for life. I could go into detail, but don’t want to tell their business. (But it’s your worst nightmare.)
Serious question: is there any legitimate data on survival rates? I don't see any legitimate sources and I've looked. I can believe it but I have not seen any data.
No shit. I’ve told people that if the shot is going to be mandatory to participate in civil society I’m waiting for the JNJ vax, not the mRNA thing. Vaccines have 70 years of science behind them, but the mRNA thing is a fucking experiment.
A vaccine is old medicine. It gives you a small amount of something so your body learns to fight it and you become IMMUNE.
This shit is a MRNA virus that changes your DNA so that when you get Covid your chance of getting the worst case symptoms are lower. They have no idea what else this might do, since they rushed it out in 9 months and governments gave them blanket immunity to being sued, too.
That's it. It doesn't make you immune. You need to get a new shot every so often etc. This is in no way a vaccine. They just call it that so people aren't freaked out (as they should be!) and stick out their arm for it.
.. and thats if all the conspiracy theories about it are WRONG. It could be worse. Bill Gates lied on tv about how he is looking forward to taking it. People get fake injections on tv etc..
It doesn’t change your DNA. The messenger RNA codes for the spike proteins so that when the virus in the wild enters it is not recognized by your body.
Yes, I never trust what I am seeing when they get a vaccine on TV. Could be saline. I am not sure why anyone would get this shot when we have immunity and recovery is around 99 percent.
This vid has some stuff on the vaccine starting about halfway through. I thought it gave a good overview of what mRNA gene therapies are and how they are different from traditional vaccines. I'm a biologist who worked in pioneering mRNA "vaccine" research back in 2010 for cancer treatments. We had cures for 3 types of cancer and when Merck bought a controlling interest in the company they trashed it all--or so we thought.
As I understand it, a vaccine is where you inject some of the live or inactive virus and your body build antibodies for that. The covid "vaccine" puts mRNA (a type of DNA) that enters all your cells and gives them instructions to grow fake virus out of the cell wall and trick the body into a stress response to create antibodies. It really could be just semantics and maybe we can call this a vaccine technically but my point is really that this is nothing like we've every used before and things like effectiveness, side effects, etc. are still not known. I personally don't want to be injected with DNA at this point. They say it's harmless because the mRNA "should" leave once the body is done with it but that raises a lot of questions for me.
Thanks for clarifying this for me. I agree with you. It raises lots of questions for me too and I would rather not play guinea pig. Especially when I have an immune system and the recovery rate for Covid is around 99 percent. Seems the vaccine is causing some potential deaths, too.
I simply advise people to reflect on the wisdom to let them inject you with a vaccine invented a few months ago, for an illness that's not much worse than a common flu.
Join the herd to help end the pandemic and for your peace of mind. My wife and I contracted Covid in December and took an antibody test in January that showed we had immunity. After studying research literature from University of Arizona and elsewhere (but not the MSM) we found that natural immunity appears to provide long-lasting protection against Covid-19. So, we decided to forgo vaccination for now. You have options. Study them and do what is best for your situation. The faster we get to herd immunity, the sooner we can end this nightmare.
I don't advocate the chicken pox approach, as not everyone gets a mild case. I'm hoping that those of us who had Rona already will get exemptions. PA vacc distribution is so messed up that they couldn't mandate it even if they want to.
I remember when I was a kid my mom purposely took us to get chicken pox. We got it as kids we were ok. My aunt got it as an adult and apparently it was horrible.
Even though Democrats would be killing their own voters, we know they don't even need any real votes anymore to win. And who is most likely to get the vaccine first? Poor people. They don't care about killing 10's of millions of Americans, because they'll just import more immigrants. And where will they come from? India, China, Mexico.
I said it long ago, that with the path Democrats have put us on, when whites become an extreme minority, this country will become a new colony for the Indians and Chinese, where they will collectively battle over the resources of this land until one side wins out. Because those are the two largest countries on the planet that absolutely need to conquer more land to sustain their populations.
And that's exactly what an experimental mRNA can be designed to achieve.
It's part of the "Great Reset". People don't just come up with these plans and not have mass murder in mind. It's literally an unavoidable side effect toward achieving their goals for the "Great Reset". They don't outright say it, but based on the general plan, it's impossible for it to be functionally no different than Hitler's "final solution" in practice.
Democrats don't care who they kill to "achieve their goals." They are proudly The Party Of Crime.
The DNC's long-term strategy of Electoral Takeover Via "New Americans"/"Replacement Voters" imported from the 3rd-World is all they need to ensure future domination of our elections and society.
Dirty Secret: The Uniparty has been lying for decades about the number of illegal aliens in our country, pushing the ludicrous narrative claiming that figure has been "steady at 11 Million" for as long as I can remember. This is obviously false, as illegals have been flooding in for decades and having an above-average number of anchor-babies who have an above-average number of anchor-babies repeat repeat repeat. I trust Ann Coulter's conservative estimate of 40-50 Million much more: her figures are based on school enrollments, free lunches, Section 8 housing, welfare and other freebies, usage of emergency rooms in lieu of doctor visits etc. (The "official" number of illegals the DNC/RINO alliance claims is based on their greed for power and unicorn farts, merely another acceleration down the Slippery Slope that they hope no one will notice and question.)
It is the right move for individuals to decide whether this vaccine is worth the risk to them individually. Not everybody has a 99.7% chance of survival. It is highly dependent on age.
Well, I'm 62 and it's 99.5% for my age range. Plus, do you believe that this vaccine is really beneficial? The more I read and watch about it really makes me wonder.
0.5% risk of death seems like a lot to me. Especially considering the risk of death for a 30 year old is 0.009%. But it should be an individual decision.
The problem is that the numbers are very low on both sides, that should be the real take away. A vaccine is not needed if people are walking around and only 9 out of 20000 are really sick and nobody dies. Does the vaccine "work" against COVID? Yeah, it probably offers some protection. But how many drugs get recalled after they have been approved for many many years? A small percentage, but probably higher than the risk of COVID for young people.
If you are 75+ years old, the risk-reward probably favors the vaccine. If you are under 30, I think the risk-reward favors not taking the vaccine until more data comes in.
More data needed is why I'm waiting. I've had access to the vaccine since January. I'm not high risk or front line so I decline. However, my wife works with covid patients everyday in the hospital, so her risk was much higher. Plus we want to have kids and hospitalization and risk of pregnant woman is much higher if they contract covid.
I'd feel much safer taking J&Js vaccine when approved over pfizer and moderna.
I understand the argument that despite all the side effects, it's marginally better than placebo if you actually get COVID, but I do not want to honor the bad governance that got us here in the first place. Covid was an apocalyptic big deal because they made it an apocalyptic big deal. If it had been reported differently, we wouldve had an unusually strong flu season and that wouldve been it. It's been too politicized and weaponized against people that I will never patronize the oligarchs profiting from this scamdemic if I can help it. Mentally I am DONE with covid, and I was one of the first people to worry about it when the left was still downplaying it before the first week of March 2020 when they realized it could be used against Trump.
Out of the 634 reported eye disorders from people who were administered the vaccine, only 7 went totally blind. And guess what - 2 of them recovered their sight!
i'm actually used to it at this point but i really enjoy discussing things like this with liberals bc they are SHOCKED if you don't agree with them. It's pretty funny. Just matter of factly say cutting your dick off doesn't make you a women to a lefty. they are dumbfounded. half the people i've said you coudln't pay enough to get me to take that vaccine that was rushed through production for a virus i've already had. They look at you like you are a flat earther.
I found out yesterday that like three people at my workplace felt really sick days after getting the vaccine, and have had little to no energy. That’s not normal. I’m pretty sure even flu shots don’t do that to you for that long. I don’t want it. Why should getting the vaccine be worse than the virus?
The party of science hears the word vaccine and think immune and guaranteed.
When this covid vaccine is a preventative treatment and unproven, you can still get the virus but now your cells can identify the virus sooner. You'll still get infected and be a carrier. So it isn't a vaccine as we've known vaccines as but for the people who think climate change is man made ignoring Earth's natural history this really isn't a stretch to their stupidity
it's 99.9% without democrat doctors killing people for 39k
And for that they should not be forgiven
Vents are harder on the body than anyone can ever imagine. Spouse survived massive heart attack- vent they were put on afterwards screwed them up for life. I could go into detail, but don’t want to tell their business. (But it’s your worst nightmare.)
Exact same thing happened to my cousin. I think the damn thing (along with all the goddamn fentanyl) game him brain damage.
Serious question: is there any legitimate data on survival rates? I don't see any legitimate sources and I've looked. I can believe it but I have not seen any data.
you basically have to extrapolate your own from cases and death reporting
I get goosebumps whenever someone mentions mRNA while dropping the use of “vaccine”. This guy gets it.
The lefties who "love science" don't actually know that this is not a vaccine or even what mRNA is.
No shit. I’ve told people that if the shot is going to be mandatory to participate in civil society I’m waiting for the JNJ vax, not the mRNA thing. Vaccines have 70 years of science behind them, but the mRNA thing is a fucking experiment.
I’m getting the J&J vax too, if it becomes mandatory. I don’t want any experimental crap injected in me.
Can you explain this to me? How is it not a vaccine?
I am curious and truly want to know how it works. Thanks!
A vaccine is old medicine. It gives you a small amount of something so your body learns to fight it and you become IMMUNE.
This shit is a MRNA virus that changes your DNA so that when you get Covid your chance of getting the worst case symptoms are lower. They have no idea what else this might do, since they rushed it out in 9 months and governments gave them blanket immunity to being sued, too.
That's it. It doesn't make you immune. You need to get a new shot every so often etc. This is in no way a vaccine. They just call it that so people aren't freaked out (as they should be!) and stick out their arm for it.
.. and thats if all the conspiracy theories about it are WRONG. It could be worse. Bill Gates lied on tv about how he is looking forward to taking it. People get fake injections on tv etc..
It doesn’t change your DNA. The messenger RNA codes for the spike proteins so that when the virus in the wild enters it is not recognized by your body.
Yes, I never trust what I am seeing when they get a vaccine on TV. Could be saline. I am not sure why anyone would get this shot when we have immunity and recovery is around 99 percent.
This vid has some stuff on the vaccine starting about halfway through. I thought it gave a good overview of what mRNA gene therapies are and how they are different from traditional vaccines. I'm a biologist who worked in pioneering mRNA "vaccine" research back in 2010 for cancer treatments. We had cures for 3 types of cancer and when Merck bought a controlling interest in the company they trashed it all--or so we thought.
https://www.bitchute.com/video/KO495u7J749A/
Wow! Thanks for the link. Unbelievable that they trashed the cures for three types of cancer. Cancer is big business, I guess.
As I understand it, a vaccine is where you inject some of the live or inactive virus and your body build antibodies for that. The covid "vaccine" puts mRNA (a type of DNA) that enters all your cells and gives them instructions to grow fake virus out of the cell wall and trick the body into a stress response to create antibodies. It really could be just semantics and maybe we can call this a vaccine technically but my point is really that this is nothing like we've every used before and things like effectiveness, side effects, etc. are still not known. I personally don't want to be injected with DNA at this point. They say it's harmless because the mRNA "should" leave once the body is done with it but that raises a lot of questions for me.
Thanks for clarifying this for me. I agree with you. It raises lots of questions for me too and I would rather not play guinea pig. Especially when I have an immune system and the recovery rate for Covid is around 99 percent. Seems the vaccine is causing some potential deaths, too.
And we are all being called domestic terrorists.
I simply advise people to reflect on the wisdom to let them inject you with a vaccine invented a few months ago, for an illness that's not much worse than a common flu.
And compare the # deaths right after the Rona vacc vs flu vacc.
welcome to the club, david!
Join the herd to help end the pandemic and for your peace of mind. My wife and I contracted Covid in December and took an antibody test in January that showed we had immunity. After studying research literature from University of Arizona and elsewhere (but not the MSM) we found that natural immunity appears to provide long-lasting protection against Covid-19. So, we decided to forgo vaccination for now. You have options. Study them and do what is best for your situation. The faster we get to herd immunity, the sooner we can end this nightmare.
I don't advocate the chicken pox approach, as not everyone gets a mild case. I'm hoping that those of us who had Rona already will get exemptions. PA vacc distribution is so messed up that they couldn't mandate it even if they want to.
I remember when I was a kid my mom purposely took us to get chicken pox. We got it as kids we were ok. My aunt got it as an adult and apparently it was horrible.
Pox is worse in adults, and they are at higher risk for shingles.
So is covid, well older adults with comorbidities. Get covid as a young adult and get the antibodies.
Even though Democrats would be killing their own voters, we know they don't even need any real votes anymore to win. And who is most likely to get the vaccine first? Poor people. They don't care about killing 10's of millions of Americans, because they'll just import more immigrants. And where will they come from? India, China, Mexico.
I said it long ago, that with the path Democrats have put us on, when whites become an extreme minority, this country will become a new colony for the Indians and Chinese, where they will collectively battle over the resources of this land until one side wins out. Because those are the two largest countries on the planet that absolutely need to conquer more land to sustain their populations.
And that's exactly what an experimental mRNA can be designed to achieve.
It's part of the "Great Reset". People don't just come up with these plans and not have mass murder in mind. It's literally an unavoidable side effect toward achieving their goals for the "Great Reset". They don't outright say it, but based on the general plan, it's impossible for it to be functionally no different than Hitler's "final solution" in practice.
Democrats don't care who they kill to "achieve their goals." They are proudly The Party Of Crime.
The DNC's long-term strategy of Electoral Takeover Via "New Americans"/"Replacement Voters" imported from the 3rd-World is all they need to ensure future domination of our elections and society.
Dirty Secret: The Uniparty has been lying for decades about the number of illegal aliens in our country, pushing the ludicrous narrative claiming that figure has been "steady at 11 Million" for as long as I can remember. This is obviously false, as illegals have been flooding in for decades and having an above-average number of anchor-babies who have an above-average number of anchor-babies repeat repeat repeat. I trust Ann Coulter's conservative estimate of 40-50 Million much more: her figures are based on school enrollments, free lunches, Section 8 housing, welfare and other freebies, usage of emergency rooms in lieu of doctor visits etc. (The "official" number of illegals the DNC/RINO alliance claims is based on their greed for power and unicorn farts, merely another acceleration down the Slippery Slope that they hope no one will notice and question.)
Welcome to the club.
Yeah join the rest rest of us pal. The only ones who are for it haven't missed a paycheck or are getting paid money by the government.
Welcome to clown world!
It is the right move for individuals to decide whether this vaccine is worth the risk to them individually. Not everybody has a 99.7% chance of survival. It is highly dependent on age.
Well, I'm 62 and it's 99.5% for my age range. Plus, do you believe that this vaccine is really beneficial? The more I read and watch about it really makes me wonder.
Yeah. I do think it is beneficial.
Vaccine:
50 out of 20,000 symptomatic covid
1 out of 20,000 severe covid
Placebo:
275 out of 20,000 symptomatic covid
9 out of 20,000 severe covid
0.5% risk of death seems like a lot to me. Especially considering the risk of death for a 30 year old is 0.009%. But it should be an individual decision.
Where are you getting 0.5% risk of death?
99.5% survival rate.
Which CDC table is that from?
The problem is that the numbers are very low on both sides, that should be the real take away. A vaccine is not needed if people are walking around and only 9 out of 20000 are really sick and nobody dies. Does the vaccine "work" against COVID? Yeah, it probably offers some protection. But how many drugs get recalled after they have been approved for many many years? A small percentage, but probably higher than the risk of COVID for young people.
If you are 75+ years old, the risk-reward probably favors the vaccine. If you are under 30, I think the risk-reward favors not taking the vaccine until more data comes in.
More data needed is why I'm waiting. I've had access to the vaccine since January. I'm not high risk or front line so I decline. However, my wife works with covid patients everyday in the hospital, so her risk was much higher. Plus we want to have kids and hospitalization and risk of pregnant woman is much higher if they contract covid.
I'd feel much safer taking J&Js vaccine when approved over pfizer and moderna.
I understand the argument that despite all the side effects, it's marginally better than placebo if you actually get COVID, but I do not want to honor the bad governance that got us here in the first place. Covid was an apocalyptic big deal because they made it an apocalyptic big deal. If it had been reported differently, we wouldve had an unusually strong flu season and that wouldve been it. It's been too politicized and weaponized against people that I will never patronize the oligarchs profiting from this scamdemic if I can help it. Mentally I am DONE with covid, and I was one of the first people to worry about it when the left was still downplaying it before the first week of March 2020 when they realized it could be used against Trump.
He has CANCER. The cancer is going to kill him. I hate to be the bearer of bad news.
A man with actual balls.
Umm. I was called selfish. He forgot selfish.
HEY YOU FUCKING NAZI, ITS 99.8% SURVIVAL!!!!!!!11111ONE REEEEEEEEE
Good thing this vaccine supposedly won't end the lockdowns and masks anyway...
Don't forget RACIST! He's got all the other labels from the left, might as well throw that one in there as well.
Here's what I say when asked if I'm going to get this: "I have a personal policy that prevents me from injecting myself with experimental mRNA."
Good news from the UK everyone.
Out of the 634 reported eye disorders from people who were administered the vaccine, only 7 went totally blind. And guess what - 2 of them recovered their sight!
https://dailyexpose.co.uk/2021/02/08/official-data-on-adverse-reactions-to-vaccines/
I must be a Anti-Vaxxer. Not injecting myself with this untested crap. Bring back the Nuremberg Courts.
But it's not even going to end the lockdown......
i'm actually used to it at this point but i really enjoy discussing things like this with liberals bc they are SHOCKED if you don't agree with them. It's pretty funny. Just matter of factly say cutting your dick off doesn't make you a women to a lefty. they are dumbfounded. half the people i've said you coudln't pay enough to get me to take that vaccine that was rushed through production for a virus i've already had. They look at you like you are a flat earther.
The media spreading hopeless and fear all year, people became so desperate they will inject anything to their bodies.
Bravo, enemy of the people!
Welcome to the club, Pede...
You forgot insurrectionist and terrorist.
I found out yesterday that like three people at my workplace felt really sick days after getting the vaccine, and have had little to no energy. That’s not normal. I’m pretty sure even flu shots don’t do that to you for that long. I don’t want it. Why should getting the vaccine be worse than the virus?
The party of science hears the word vaccine and think immune and guaranteed.
When this covid vaccine is a preventative treatment and unproven, you can still get the virus but now your cells can identify the virus sooner. You'll still get infected and be a carrier. So it isn't a vaccine as we've known vaccines as but for the people who think climate change is man made ignoring Earth's natural history this really isn't a stretch to their stupidity
Don’t let them call you an antivaxxer unless you are one
If you would take vaccines against West Nile virus or whatever else has been tested for years point out that you’re fine with that but not this
They need to know it’s different because the media sells it as the same as the annual flu shot.