This is the dumbest "solution" to abortion that I have ever read. It doesn't solve the problem, still leaves no responsibility on the primary person involved (the woman) and would continue to encourage abortions.
The abortion problem isn't because a lack of education on the part of women or men on unintended pregnancy. It isn't a rape or incest problem either (if you do some diligent research, you will see that those are a very small percentage).
It is primarily a problem of women that don't give a shit at the moment, or do make a decision to get pregnant and change their minds later on. It is primarily a problem of guys that don't give a shit because they view abortion as an easy solution (especially for them, since the guy isn't taking any medical risks or inconveniences himself).
Abortion is like drunk driving - it isn't happening because people don't know about it.
The best solution would be to get rid of abortion except in cases where the mother's life was at risk.
If we just wanted to reduce abortion rates while keeping it legal, the next productive steps would be to:
1- get rid of ANY profit/incentive from aborted tissue - no selling, no donating, no 'research" NOTHING.
2 - exempt abortions (that aren't done to save the life of the mother) from standard medical insurance. Like glasses and dental care, let people get separate abortion medical coverage if they want. This would pull the cost away from people who don't get abortions, and put the cost burden back on the people who just don't care and get pregnant.
3 - DNA testing to prove who the father is, and have him be required to pay 1/2 the costs. He could get abortion insurance under same conditions as the woman. There would need to be with mandatory legal reporting where the pregnant woman must identify the father with risk of perjury prison sentence for false reporting.
4 - Strict limits on qualifications of medical staff involved with abortions (yes, including admitting permissions)
5- Strict limits on number of abortions performed and rates charged (this was the only thing the proposed solution got right) so that the procedure is not a money maker for any doctor or facility.
The best solution would be to get rid of abortion except in cases where the mother's life was at risk.
You want a 12 year old White girl to carry the child of a ______ who raped her?
This is the dumbest "solution" to abortion that I have ever read.
You're not intelligent enough to understand.
still leaves no responsibility on the primary person involved (the woman)
She didn't get pregnant on her own. Assuming there was intercourse on the part of a willing male, the primary person responsible for a pregnancy is the male in all cases, no exceptions.
Women have indicated that they will "not" take responsibility. They have long been declared the "weaker sex" due to their inability to take accountability. A man does have a moral responsibility to provide for his children and the woman who reared them. In the old days, a man would be stoned to death for not doing so, because he created a problem for the entire community. When that punishment stopped, then we started to have this problem of "unwanted pregnancy". A man has a responsibility to vet the women he screws to ensure the both want to have a child, or ensure he himself uses a condom or abstains.
Your answer indicates that men are weak and unable to control themselves.
Assuming there was intercourse on the part of a willing male, the primary person responsible for a pregnancy is the male in all cases, no exceptions.
Your level of understanding of this issue, history (see below) and human nature is like a lobotomized rock. With the exception of rape, the primary decision maker on whether intercourse occurs is the woman. Men will pursue and have sex more indiscriminately than women will.
Women have indicated that they will "not" take responsibility.
3 year olds indicate they won't behave. This is no different. People have to be taught right from wrong and held accountable for their actions. The consequences for a three year old might be a time out, a spanking, or denial of some fun activity for a brief time. The consequences for a 30 year old woman having her 3rd abortion should be something severe. The lack of consequences is why this behavior continues and why so many women (and men) think it is no big deal.
In the old days, a man would be stoned to death for not doing so, because he created a problem for the entire community. When that punishment stopped, then we started to have this problem of "unwanted pregnancy"
Stoning was invoke for adultery. Siring a bastard, which is the term for the children fathered out of wedlock and traditionally not care for by the father, was not of itself something that brought about stoning. Abortion existed even before stoning did. You wouldn't know this because you haven't really done any research on the issue. Abortifacients and methods go back to at least ancient Babylonia. There were well known in Egypt, Greece, Rome and were written about by Aristotle and Hippocrates. Abortion started to boom in the United States when SCOTUS made it legal.
It takes two to tango. The primary cause of unwanted pregnancies is promsicuity by both parties. Abortion is no different than drunk driving or a robbery in which an innocent person is killed.
A man has a responsibility to vet the women he screws to ensure the both want to have a child, or ensure he himself uses a condom or abstains.
You don't get out much, do you?
Your answer indicates that men are weak and unable to control themselves.
On the contrary. Men are strong enough and cunning enough to convince women to have sex with them. Men are able to control themselves, but choose not to. Women are able to control themselves, but choose not to.
YOU are exactly the same aas the people who responded to you "the problem is that some people are bigots and bigots need to stop being bigots". How so? You have a one track mind, have poor knowledge of the subject, and your thinking is emotionally driven with no logic involved. You have said NOTHING about the baby in the womb. This tells me and everyone else reading your garbage that you aren't concerned about abortion at all.
With the exception of rape, the primary decision maker on whether intercourse occurs is the woman.
You are retarded. The ratio of male initiated sex vs. female initiated sex is quite unbalanced. The suggestion to punish a man for poor judgement would be more socially acceptable that punishing a woman for same. I know it is a horrible double-standard, but "at this point" you will not get laws which punish women or abortionists, but Congress and most of Senate would vote to punish men for causing unwanted pregnancies, and the fetal DNA would be proof.
Your balking is not about logic; it is about not wanting to hold men accountable for their essential part in unwanted pregnancy and abortion.
The ratio of male initiated sex vs. female initiated sex is quite unbalanced.
It isn't unbalanced at all. It's a product of evolution and the balance has been determined over hundreds of thousands of years. What isn't currently balanced is the lack of consequences for women and men fucking on a whim's notice.
The ratio of final female decision on sex (that isn't rape) is close to 100%.
to punish a man for poor judgement would be more socially acceptable that punishing a woman
It's also socially acceptable right now to "be less white" What kind of cuck upbringing did you have?
Your balking is not about logic; it is about not wanting to hold men accountable for their essential part in unwanted pregnancy
There's no balking here. Your idea wouldn't work, wouldn't do any good and would just end up putting even more abortions onto the tax payers bill.
You aren't smart enough to qualify as retarded. In the thimble full of brain cells that you have, you think women can't be responsible with their actions. Plenty of women are. The declining value placed by society on a traditional family (Husband, Wife and Children) is where abortion began to skyrocket. You wouldn't know any of that because you haven't spent more than 15 minutes researching abortion.
This is the dumbest "solution" to abortion that I have ever read. It doesn't solve the problem, still leaves no responsibility on the primary person involved (the woman) and would continue to encourage abortions.
The abortion problem isn't because a lack of education on the part of women or men on unintended pregnancy. It isn't a rape or incest problem either (if you do some diligent research, you will see that those are a very small percentage). It is primarily a problem of women that don't give a shit at the moment, or do make a decision to get pregnant and change their minds later on. It is primarily a problem of guys that don't give a shit because they view abortion as an easy solution (especially for them, since the guy isn't taking any medical risks or inconveniences himself).
Abortion is like drunk driving - it isn't happening because people don't know about it.
The best solution would be to get rid of abortion except in cases where the mother's life was at risk.
If we just wanted to reduce abortion rates while keeping it legal, the next productive steps would be to:
1- get rid of ANY profit/incentive from aborted tissue - no selling, no donating, no 'research" NOTHING. 2 - exempt abortions (that aren't done to save the life of the mother) from standard medical insurance. Like glasses and dental care, let people get separate abortion medical coverage if they want. This would pull the cost away from people who don't get abortions, and put the cost burden back on the people who just don't care and get pregnant. 3 - DNA testing to prove who the father is, and have him be required to pay 1/2 the costs. He could get abortion insurance under same conditions as the woman. There would need to be with mandatory legal reporting where the pregnant woman must identify the father with risk of perjury prison sentence for false reporting. 4 - Strict limits on qualifications of medical staff involved with abortions (yes, including admitting permissions) 5- Strict limits on number of abortions performed and rates charged (this was the only thing the proposed solution got right) so that the procedure is not a money maker for any doctor or facility.
You want a 12 year old White girl to carry the child of a ______ who raped her?
You're not intelligent enough to understand.
She didn't get pregnant on her own. Assuming there was intercourse on the part of a willing male, the primary person responsible for a pregnancy is the male in all cases, no exceptions.
Women have indicated that they will "not" take responsibility. They have long been declared the "weaker sex" due to their inability to take accountability. A man does have a moral responsibility to provide for his children and the woman who reared them. In the old days, a man would be stoned to death for not doing so, because he created a problem for the entire community. When that punishment stopped, then we started to have this problem of "unwanted pregnancy". A man has a responsibility to vet the women he screws to ensure the both want to have a child, or ensure he himself uses a condom or abstains.
Your answer indicates that men are weak and unable to control themselves.
Your level of understanding of this issue, history (see below) and human nature is like a lobotomized rock. With the exception of rape, the primary decision maker on whether intercourse occurs is the woman. Men will pursue and have sex more indiscriminately than women will.
3 year olds indicate they won't behave. This is no different. People have to be taught right from wrong and held accountable for their actions. The consequences for a three year old might be a time out, a spanking, or denial of some fun activity for a brief time. The consequences for a 30 year old woman having her 3rd abortion should be something severe. The lack of consequences is why this behavior continues and why so many women (and men) think it is no big deal.
It takes two to tango. The primary cause of unwanted pregnancies is promsicuity by both parties. Abortion is no different than drunk driving or a robbery in which an innocent person is killed.
You don't get out much, do you?
On the contrary. Men are strong enough and cunning enough to convince women to have sex with them. Men are able to control themselves, but choose not to. Women are able to control themselves, but choose not to.
YOU are exactly the same aas the people who responded to you "the problem is that some people are bigots and bigots need to stop being bigots". How so? You have a one track mind, have poor knowledge of the subject, and your thinking is emotionally driven with no logic involved. You have said NOTHING about the baby in the womb. This tells me and everyone else reading your garbage that you aren't concerned about abortion at all.
You are retarded. The ratio of male initiated sex vs. female initiated sex is quite unbalanced. The suggestion to punish a man for poor judgement would be more socially acceptable that punishing a woman for same. I know it is a horrible double-standard, but "at this point" you will not get laws which punish women or abortionists, but Congress and most of Senate would vote to punish men for causing unwanted pregnancies, and the fetal DNA would be proof.
Your balking is not about logic; it is about not wanting to hold men accountable for their essential part in unwanted pregnancy and abortion.
It isn't unbalanced at all. It's a product of evolution and the balance has been determined over hundreds of thousands of years. What isn't currently balanced is the lack of consequences for women and men fucking on a whim's notice.
The ratio of final female decision on sex (that isn't rape) is close to 100%.
It's also socially acceptable right now to "be less white" What kind of cuck upbringing did you have?
There's no balking here. Your idea wouldn't work, wouldn't do any good and would just end up putting even more abortions onto the tax payers bill.
You aren't smart enough to qualify as retarded. In the thimble full of brain cells that you have, you think women can't be responsible with their actions. Plenty of women are. The declining value placed by society on a traditional family (Husband, Wife and Children) is where abortion began to skyrocket. You wouldn't know any of that because you haven't spent more than 15 minutes researching abortion.