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lemonjuice 10 points ago +10 / -0

That's not surviving; that's dying.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

I've worked many 20 hr days, back to back. I mean time spent working. Not including commute, eat, shower, etc. I've supported myself for 40 years. Hard work is not lethal.

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lemonjuice 1 point ago +1 / -0

So have I, and I can tell you I don't want to be a cog for some gigacorp to get rich off my labor. I've noticed most people I worked with who work 12hrs/day tend to have shit bodies and don't seem to have great family relations.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Self employment is the only way.