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resoluteAction 9 points ago +9 / -0

We need to stop pissing on NY and CA. Wake the f up, the DEMs have been stealing and not winning those states for years. Yes they have a lot of loud commies and liberals but a majority? Mail in voting, illegal aliens, and dominion voting is their 'majority'.

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somethingnew 2 points ago +4 / -2

Nah, there is some fraud for sure in the more competitive parts of both states like some house seats, DA, and state senate elections, but statewide, there is no chance in hell that they are not full on blue.

Some people here went off the deep end because of the 2020 election theft. No one, and I mean no one, from the Trump camp has ever alleged that we won California or NY. There is a reason for that, and it is because we didn't. Election fraud wins closely tied elections where the winning margin is within reach. It doesn't win a 20+ point election like NY and CA.

We need to separate these things so we don't start living in some delusional land where less than 30% of the country supports the other side and we actually are getting 70+% of the vote. That isn't happening and no serious person has ever claimed that it happened.

There is another discrepancy in your whole argument, any time there is a massive migration from California to some red states (NV, AZ, and OR) somehow, that state starts to turn blue or at least purple. If we aren't losing CA, then how do you explain it? They time it with election fraud?

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resoluteAction 5 points ago +5 / -0

You forget that ca and ny have the largest illegal alien voting popations in the nation. CA has like 80% mail in voting and a large percent of that is fraud. They might still be a majority, but it isn't overwhelming. If you look at the Dominion voting scandal the claim is Biden has 16 to 20 million fraud votes. Most of those are being logged in NY and CA.

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somethingnew 1 point ago +3 / -2

That still doesn't explain my last point. You'd think those fleeing CA are the more conservative voters because their votes don't count and their state is going off the deep end with liberal bullshit, but they aren't. They are a solid blue voting block that move to places like Colorado, Oregon, Nevada, and Arizona and turn them more and more blue. That just can't be explained without the state being full to the brim with dems.