Odd way to put that. A Christian nation is one where people are allowed to pursue their own lives peacefully all with a respect for one another based on a common morality.
The problem with a Christian nation is that it inevitably turns into a nation like we have. Immoral people and those that hate Christ CANNOT coexist with those who love him. Their sin is their God and anything that teaches otherwise (even if it doesn't call for action against them), must be blotted out. Straight from the Bible.
Christian peace is always taken advantage of. Case and point....now.
A Christian nation recognizes Christ as universal King. When Christ is recognized as such over every heart and home, everyone lives their life according to his precepts out of love and fear. We are not a Christian nation by any means. The so called "enlightenment" won that battle across all of western civilization. Much like Reagan said that freedom is only one generation away from being extinguished, so is the human binding to the Sacred Heart.
Christian "peace" didn't give us what we have today. A catastrophic failure to transfer traditions and truth from generation to generation did this - the standard result of decadence born of wealth and power. What good is how you got where you are, if you have so much that you can just hand over money to the next generation and forget how you got it? What use is objective morality and reverence of the Almighty when you have wealth and power? What does it matter if your daughters grow up to be harlots, if you can just sedate yourself with the wealth of the age? So on, and so forth.
It was our separation from the virtue of poverty that led to our separation from the virtue of charity, and the separation from that virtue leads to the rapid separation from the virtue of chastity, and you immediately fall in to what we see today - a mimicry of the end of the Roman Empire, and other such decadent empires.
You're not wrong. I'd argue that the deterioration of national law comes to some degree from peace (better word would be complacency) but definitely the fall of the nation is the responsibility of elders.
I don't support an easy follow-up argument that could arise claiming generational wealth is a "bad thing" (you didn't say that), but definitely people forgetting their "roots" will always lead to errant thinking, Christian or not.
This is not a Christian nation. This is a nation founded by a majority od Christian men and women, but we are by no means a theocracy ruled by Christ. The USA is a constitutional Republic and the power resides with We The People. The reason we have drifted so far from our guiding principles is that not enough good men and women sacrifice their time, effort, and resources to public service.
A theocracy is not a Christian nation. A Christian nation is one where Christianity was the majority religion...which it was. And call it what you will, all the tennets of freedom and personal responsibility....family structure...work ethic....moral code....they're all biblical first, adopted later (insert obscure babylonian reference or hindi paradigm and misplaced old testament context here).
I would never advocate for a theocracy and did not claim the US ever was one.
What I meant is that not enough Christian men and women (i.e. "good people") who actually care about the Republic dedicate enough time and effort to public service.
And I stand by my statement that this is not a Christian nation. It is a nation founded by a majority of Christian men and women, but it is not based directly on the Ten Commandments or the words of Jesus. It is based on an agreement of how men and women are to be governed by themselves, not by a dictatorship and not by God directly.
The argument of whether we are ruled by Christ or men in America can be laid to rest with one simple question: In the USA, is the supreme authority of the land vested in the Constitution or the Word of God?
Excellent point, but to be fair, the Constitution was written by God fearing Christian men...so they are intertwined and if we were to get back to our Christian roots and heritage, we would have absolutely no trouble understanding and following the Constitution.
Christ rules over all. Kinda what the whole King of Kings title is all about. He rules over all because he is in control due to the whole God thing going on. You are right, we are not a Christian Nation, but we used to be a Nation of Christians. This country was made for a moral and Godly people, and when the Christians were in control things trended towards liberty. Now that self worshipers and money worshipers control the government everything has gone Cardi B real fast.
Odd way to put that. A Christian nation is one where people are allowed to pursue their own lives peacefully all with a respect for one another based on a common morality.
The problem with a Christian nation is that it inevitably turns into a nation like we have. Immoral people and those that hate Christ CANNOT coexist with those who love him. Their sin is their God and anything that teaches otherwise (even if it doesn't call for action against them), must be blotted out. Straight from the Bible.
Christian peace is always taken advantage of. Case and point....now.
A Christian nation recognizes Christ as universal King. When Christ is recognized as such over every heart and home, everyone lives their life according to his precepts out of love and fear. We are not a Christian nation by any means. The so called "enlightenment" won that battle across all of western civilization. Much like Reagan said that freedom is only one generation away from being extinguished, so is the human binding to the Sacred Heart.
Christian "peace" didn't give us what we have today. A catastrophic failure to transfer traditions and truth from generation to generation did this - the standard result of decadence born of wealth and power. What good is how you got where you are, if you have so much that you can just hand over money to the next generation and forget how you got it? What use is objective morality and reverence of the Almighty when you have wealth and power? What does it matter if your daughters grow up to be harlots, if you can just sedate yourself with the wealth of the age? So on, and so forth.
It was our separation from the virtue of poverty that led to our separation from the virtue of charity, and the separation from that virtue leads to the rapid separation from the virtue of chastity, and you immediately fall in to what we see today - a mimicry of the end of the Roman Empire, and other such decadent empires.
You're not wrong. I'd argue that the deterioration of national law comes to some degree from peace (better word would be complacency) but definitely the fall of the nation is the responsibility of elders.
I don't support an easy follow-up argument that could arise claiming generational wealth is a "bad thing" (you didn't say that), but definitely people forgetting their "roots" will always lead to errant thinking, Christian or not.
This is not a Christian nation. This is a nation founded by a majority od Christian men and women, but we are by no means a theocracy ruled by Christ. The USA is a constitutional Republic and the power resides with We The People. The reason we have drifted so far from our guiding principles is that not enough good men and women sacrifice their time, effort, and resources to public service.
A theocracy is not a Christian nation. A Christian nation is one where Christianity was the majority religion...which it was. And call it what you will, all the tennets of freedom and personal responsibility....family structure...work ethic....moral code....they're all biblical first, adopted later (insert obscure babylonian reference or hindi paradigm and misplaced old testament context here).
I would never advocate for a theocracy and did not claim the US ever was one.
I totally agree.
If you lived in a theocracy that allowed free will, would you know it was a theocracy. Perhaps you would blame the result of bad decisions on karma.
Wrong...the reason we have drifted so far from our guiding principles is because we drifted away from Christianity.
What I meant is that not enough Christian men and women (i.e. "good people") who actually care about the Republic dedicate enough time and effort to public service.
And I stand by my statement that this is not a Christian nation. It is a nation founded by a majority of Christian men and women, but it is not based directly on the Ten Commandments or the words of Jesus. It is based on an agreement of how men and women are to be governed by themselves, not by a dictatorship and not by God directly.
The argument of whether we are ruled by Christ or men in America can be laid to rest with one simple question: In the USA, is the supreme authority of the land vested in the Constitution or the Word of God?
Excellent point, but to be fair, the Constitution was written by God fearing Christian men...so they are intertwined and if we were to get back to our Christian roots and heritage, we would have absolutely no trouble understanding and following the Constitution.
Exactly
Christ rules over all. Kinda what the whole King of Kings title is all about. He rules over all because he is in control due to the whole God thing going on. You are right, we are not a Christian Nation, but we used to be a Nation of Christians. This country was made for a moral and Godly people, and when the Christians were in control things trended towards liberty. Now that self worshipers and money worshipers control the government everything has gone Cardi B real fast.
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