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Znut55 106 points ago +106 / -0

Watergate was child's play compared to Obamagate and blatantly spying on an opponent's campaign.

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TruthyBrat 7 points ago +8 / -1

Came here for this. The Democrats owe Nixon a huge apology, the hypocritical bastards.

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WeinerLapTop 2 points ago +2 / -0

An apology? This place has gotten fucking soft.

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myredditnameisfake 65 points ago +68 / -3

Red pills show up at the worst times. Wait until you hear about 9/11

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JamesBlomey 4 points ago +4 / -0

Just some guys that wanted to learn to fly. Just fly.

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Cody1017 -12 points ago +13 / -25

Are there any legitimate theories available besides the "planes were holograms" garbage?

Edit: I'm not trying to dispute these theories. I'm just interested in looking into the ones that are realistic

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DrCowboyPresident 26 points ago +27 / -1

Not only collapse, but collapse vertically lol

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Bald_eagle82 23 points ago +23 / -0

Yup. Trade center 7.never hit by a plane either

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remember1776 16 points ago +16 / -0

Jump into a rabbit hole with me for a while.

If you Goolag search "why did trade center 7 collapse", the first result brings you to a Canadian website:

World Trade Center 7 building did not collapse due to fire: Report

The article states that two of the principal investigators of the building's collapse involves Feng Xiao and Zhili Quan, an associate professor at Nanjing University of Science and Technology and a bridge engineer for the South Carolina Department of Transportation respectively.

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CantStumpTheTrump 7 points ago +9 / -2

Chinese attempting to spread discord and untrust. No way!?

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CantStumpTheTrump 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of my last 18 comments only the one criticizing the chinese was downvoted.

Weird.

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marishiten 1 point ago +4 / -3

Nanjing isn't as bad as Beijing. The South is more 'free' in China than the north is.

I've been to Nanjing. It wasn't bad, politics wise.

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remember1776 4 points ago +5 / -1

You're saying the CCP has no presence in South China?

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JackLemon 1 point ago +6 / -5

Not only that but it and the towers fell at near terminal velocity. That is impossible unless the floor below is blown and begins to fall before the one above hits it.

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mugatucrazypills 12 points ago +14 / -2

If you think the Bush admin was competent enough to manage this level of conspiracy, I think you're mistaken. When you break pancake 3+ floors together each one to follow shears the next slab off and you get a collapse at near terminal velocity. That's the way those buildings were built. 7 fell because large parts of 110 story building fell on it. The scandal of 9-11 is in the security incompetence leading up to it and the response by the neo-con chimp that ended up killing so many more. Saudi-supremacist cash paid for it and everything shrub frat bottom did after.

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worldowedexplanation 1 point ago +4 / -3

It’s like you don’t even know who Mossad is. Amazing, the naivety.

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JamesBlomey 0 points ago +5 / -5

LOL, this is tired. Pancake theory wouldn't even work if the building was constructed with pancakes. Thanks for trying.

This is the modern equivalent : Hey, Clinesmith changed one little email and Russiagate was totally justified. No conspiracy folks, just patriots doing their best to protect the country.

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darkclouds77 1 point ago +3 / -2

At near free fall speed.

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marishiten -1 points ago +6 / -7

It's like, gravity is a thing. Fucking weird right? Shit that is built up with no more support comes down.

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mugatucrazypills -2 points ago +2 / -4

It's a side effect of the way these particular buildings were built (to control costs). Actually very strong and economical of materials, but this failure mode became possible. It's a reasonable decision circa 1972 and gave you almost a full acre of flexible open work space on each floor ... if you mistakenly believed the human race was somehow advancing and not reverting into neo bronze age murder cults that would fly 300,000lbs of jet fuel and metal at 500mph into your building for pedo prophets promising imaginary sky poon or that the president in 2001 would be a mentally disabled frat boy saudi gay bottom cokehead dry drunk with a smaller working vocabulary than bonzo the chimp

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DaayTerkErJerbs 7 points ago +8 / -1

BBC is on tape discussing the collapse of building 7 (which wasn't hit by a plan an collapse into it's own footprint exactly like a demolition does) while building 7 was still standing in the background.

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AmericanJawa 9 points ago +14 / -5

I've come to the opinion that while 9/11 wasn't an inside job, US intelligence agencies knew what the terrorists were planning and stood aside to let it happen.

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Arcynic2 15 points ago +15 / -0

Doesn’t explain building 7.

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MSG1000 3 points ago +4 / -1

Personal theory: they knew it was coming and took advantage of it. IIRC building 7 and the wing the Pentagon was hit both had the right archives for auditing DoD expenditures, assets, budgets, etc.

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JamesBlomey 2 points ago +2 / -0

Hit them right in the audits.

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MO-Carpenter 4 points ago +5 / -1

Dude didn’t Donald Rumsfeld announce they lost an insane amount of money the day before? Too bad the records got blown up next day must be a coincidence lol

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marishiten 0 points ago +2 / -2

Because servers aren't real or anything and shit wasn't connected to the internet for backup, right? You don't need a paper when you have servers all over the world for backups in the event something happens to the buildings.

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MO-Carpenter 5 points ago +6 / -1

Neat story Matlock but which server is the missing 2.3 trillion dollars on?

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marishiten 1 point ago +4 / -3

I think some knew, but like everything else, people sit on information or don't believe it.

The real crime was capitalizing on a tragedy and leveraging it.

Did the US false flag itself? No. Was the patriot act sitting on a shelf somehwere waiting for the time to be brought out? Absolutely.

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Mantis_Toboggan 4 points ago +4 / -0

This is the best documentary that explains the discrepancies with the official story.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Rq9nUPs2RAk

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CucksForTheDonald 3 points ago +3 / -0

Article in Europhysics News, 2016: 15 years later: on the physics of high-rise building collapses Direct link to PDF.

You can also find the videos of the WTC 7 collapse and watch them for yourself. You can see it from multiple angles.

You can also find rumors about how Larry Silverstein signed a 99-year lease on the WTC in June 2001 and insured it for terrorism, then sued for a double payout because there were two attacks. He won and got $7 bln.

Oh, and you could look into the "dancing Israelis":

The 'Dancing Israelis' (referred to after their arrest by the FBI as the 'High Fivers') were a group of five Israelis spotted in Manhattan behaving suspiciously on 9/11. They were arrested the same day in a white van, and at least two of them were Mossad agents.

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tdwinner2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Brennan apparently was CIA station chief in Riyadh and approved the visas of the Saudi hijackers. So at least one of them knew something. And the FBI ignored all the calls from flight schools. My guess is the FBI doesn't want to prevent anything because they love to use and abuse crises to get more power, and look! they got more power out of 9/11. But I don't think 9/11 was an inside job the way some people think it was. The buildings collapsed because of the damage caused by the planes and the fires. The problem is that some members of the deep state knew enough and let it happen anyways, and that's awful enough.

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SliceOFriedGold 52 points ago +52 / -0

Nixon was innocent.

McCarthy was right.

Trump won.

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ForwardObserver 8 points ago +10 / -2

That would make an excellent meme. Wish I had more upvotes to give.

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lurkwellmyfriends 7 points ago +7 / -0

Should make it a shirt.

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Morgoth 49 points ago +49 / -0

Nixon hated communists and wanted them rooted out of America.

He had to be disposed of.

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CisSiberianOrchestra 33 points ago +33 / -0

Nixon also didn't trust the CIA.

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ALargeRock 1 point ago +1 / -0

Me and Nixon have some things in common it seems.

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Singingthebattlecry 1 point ago +1 / -0

Except when he used them world wide to take down leaders he didn't agree with. Examples include Chile and Argentina, but the list is long.

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NoTimeToBleed 9 points ago +10 / -1

He wasn't too fond of Jews either I recall.

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tdwinner2020 0 points ago +1 / -1

Sadly that seems to be so.

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Quixotic 12 points ago +12 / -0

maybe, maybe not

Hillary was on the commission you know

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IncredibleMrE1 19 points ago +19 / -0

And she was fired for being corrupt

Imagine how corrupt you would have to be to get fired by corrupt DC assholes for being corrupt.

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tdwinner2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

He was guilty of the cover-up because he was loyal to his people. Little did he know that the people who did the break-in were not his friends.

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Marshall2 24 points ago +25 / -1

Nixon was a choir Boy compared to Kennedy and Johnson.

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Bonami 12 points ago +12 / -0

Bush Sr lead the pack.

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LevonRiver 23 points ago +24 / -1

He was framed by the CIA—but, yeah, who were mostly Democrats. Read the book Watergate: The Hoax by Ashton Gray and you will have all the details of how the fraud was done, and why.

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Bigdickboi 1 point ago +1 / -0

Wow a book referral. Haven't seen one of those on here in a while. Props to you

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lurkwellmyfriends 18 points ago +18 / -0

He was definitely set up. He was far too effective as an executive. There was zero reason to "spy" on the opposition after winning 49 of 50 states. Nixon's failing was trying to cover it up. He fell into the communist media's trap.

Even failing this, folks need to realize that the media and powers that be have always lied. That should be reason enough to question everything you thought you knew, especially if the source is a government run school or """news""" media.

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Tweedlethree 13 points ago +13 / -0

I agree. He said they were out to get him and he was right.

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Staatssicherheit 13 points ago +14 / -1

The FBI 2nd in command and J Edgar Hoover fuckboi Mark Felt set Nixon up because he was passed over for FBI Director. He colluded with the fake news media (Washington Post) to take down a duly elected US President who had just won re-election by a landslide (500 electoral votes).

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philnmdg 11 points ago +11 / -0

I came to that conclusion a looong time ago.

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Shmioighan 11 points ago +11 / -0

Unpopular opinion(?): Nixon played to win against evil bastards who would have and are going to ruin us under their false god of democracy, wealth distribution and total central planning. He deserves a statue. One specific finger on each hand up. Watergate? Good idea. Fuck the democrats. Made weed/other "harmless" drugs super illegal so as to target hippies and black separatists? Good. Fuck them. Took us off the gold standard? Shit move I suppose, but was a process started long ago and was likely inevitable with what the Federal Reserve is, how we as a nation stopped exchanging gold/silver for cash numerous times before (temporarily) AND he did it when our gold reserve was being drained away by foreigners with currencies on the rise while ours was constantly dipping. Vietnam/cambodia/etc? Didn't start it. Went for the win. Could have had it, too, if we didn't get demoralized. At least the region is fairly anti-commie now that they had their time with it, and they are fairly pro-white people (by today's standards at least). Shame they'll get gobbled up if China's leash slips.

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Everquest4Life 1 point ago +1 / -0

Should be the top comment. Good stuff Pede.

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JamesBlomey 1 point ago +1 / -0

Kissinger didn't respect the Vietnamese and ruined Nixon's foreign policy by decoupling it from domestic affairs. A sad and retarded move not repeated by GEOTUS.

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LoneStarDangler 2 points ago +2 / -0

The Vietnam war was so poorly run on a strategic level that you have to wonder if it was by design. In many way the 2nd Iraq war and Afghanistan followed a similar pattern.

Who got rich from all that war material?

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JamesBlomey 1 point ago +1 / -0

They got rich but also consolidated their system, which seems to be working today.

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ForwardObserver 10 points ago +11 / -1

Nixon was the first President I ever voted for.I like Trump better.

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daveMac 9 points ago +9 / -0

he was set up! if we had the internet back then? well we would have what we have today IMO just my 2 cents..

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Clabber 9 points ago +9 / -0

My dad taught me this years ago. Nixon was a good president.

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jacquire14 1 point ago +1 / -0

Good President, yes.

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TruthyBrat 1 point ago +1 / -0

That's a bridge too far. Wage and Price Controls as a government policy was a disaster.

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Mintap 8 points ago +8 / -0

Whatabout the members of Congress that murdered people?

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FTLRalph 8 points ago +8 / -0

"by the Democrats"

fuck democrats and fuck republicans

are you not paying attention?

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Judicator 1 point ago +2 / -1

This ^

Nixon was probably just swamp like the rest, and he happened to get caught.

Look at the things that happened under him and you'll see he's swamp; his foreign policy is what got us into this mess with China today.

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tdwinner2020 2 points ago +2 / -0

Bush Sr was swamp. That's why Bush Jr didn't fall in the Valerie Plame affair trap: he had daddy to tell him what the deal was. Bush Sr was probably behind Iran-Contra, along with deep state member Bill bagpipes Barr.

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Judicator 2 points ago +2 / -0

Agreed! They're all swamp going back a long time, with possibly an exception in Reagan, but they had insurance on him in the form of VP.

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remember1776 7 points ago +8 / -1

Because of Trump, we now know that for a long time, what was considered the unshakeable truth was actually lies. For that alone, we must give him our eternal gratitude.

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chicago_prisoner 6 points ago +6 / -0

Nixon got us out of the Bretton-Woods agreement for tying the value of the dollar to gold. That was one of the most destructive decisions in U.S. history.

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crazyjackel 5 points ago +5 / -0

Nixon had his faults, under his presidency, we were moved off the gold standard, which was extremely unpopular with people. Because of that move, his own party really didn't like him.

He had no chance of winning if Watergate went to trial because of that, therefore he resigned, despite the American populace liking him. The Carter administration was ultimately disasterous, but then we got Reagan, which saw massive popularity with his deregulation of the economy.

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DonnieT 5 points ago +5 / -0

He also opened up the China Pandora’s box, which may have been the worst move ever looking back... although he couldn’t have known what would come from it.

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crazyjackel 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nixon, from my perspective could easily fall into the category of being the founding father of the Swamp or a betrayer of the Swamp. Like he either was considered a liability to the Swamp or he was ousted for creating an anti-American Swamp.

It is real hard to tell who the historical swamp rats were. FDR was most certainly one, but besides that it is real hard to tell.

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Judicator 3 points ago +3 / -0

Def swamp founder IMO.

Just look at who one of his prominent officials was; Henry Kissinger. Kissinger was only fully removed from being in government in some capacity by Trump this winter. Let that sink in. He's the architect of the plan to whore out the American economy.

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DonnieT 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think it’s possible that there were more splintered factions of elites who wanted to take advantage of the American people battling for supremacy with different end games at that point. Surely there were massive players in that game even in the 70s but maybe one faction took out another kinda like cartels godfathering eachother. It’s clearly much more coalesced now and all them have gotten on board with one specific plan.

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Judicator 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think he and his compatriots (Henry Kissinger!!!) knew exactly what they were doing; they saw an incredibly cheap source of labor for their special interests in big business and industry and he exploited it. This problem we have with China is not new; politicians have been whoring out the American economy for over half a century now.

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DonnieT 2 points ago +2 / -0

Good point. I guess I just meant he may not have known that it would open the door to their owning us... although maybe he did and didn’t care. Clearly he was willing to make a deal with the devil on some level.

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tdwinner2020 3 points ago +3 / -0

Getting off the gold standard put us on the road to ruin. Replacing gold for international trade with nothing meant replacing it with the dollar because ours was the biggest economy in the world at that time and for a long time after. But that means importing ever more. And it means higher and higher budget deficits because the exporters badly want to buy treasury notes with their dollars. And ever higher budget deficits are great for corrupt congresscritters. We now know how they steal: kickbacks from the foreign aid they stuff the budget full of.

Nixon did a bunch of bad, dumb things that dems love, like price controls. He even proposed an extreme nationalized healthcare program that only didn't happen because the dems rejected it as not extreme enough.

But, Nixon was taken out by the deep state.

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HeretostayUSA 4 points ago +4 / -0

Yep, I’ve been thinking a lot about that actually. It’s because Republicans let Democrats make scandals. Watergate = Capital “riots” And now that I’m living through the latter scenario, I’m realizing the former was probably blown way out of proportion as well. Republicans should be fighting this wholeheartedly by staunchly defending the hundreds of thousands of Patriotic Americans who protested that day, yielding only to criticism of the select few Capital Breechers, if at all. This is only a scandal because Republicans let it be a scandal.

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GeneticsGuy 4 points ago +4 / -0

He wasn't even guilty. He found out about it later, AFTER the investigation started and things were public...

It was a massive political hit job with the news media and the deep state.

One of the reasons the deep state hated him so much was because he ended the Vietnam War. They've always loved endless war.

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dorsalmorsel 4 points ago +4 / -0

A few bumbling burglars trying to spy on the Left is what vilifies Nixon. Yet Obama used the entire national security apparatus to spy on his political enemies.

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MsAnthropic 3 points ago +3 / -0

Now read Blacklisted by History, about Joe McCarthy.

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PraiseBeToScience 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nixon didn't even know or authorize Watergate, he was basically just thrown under the bus for it.

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Conservativechick 1 point ago +1 / -0

Little known fact - Nixon headed up the HUAC hearings that exposed Alger Hiss and others as communist infiltrators in our government.

This is why the left went after them.

Almost completely unknown fact. We never really got rid of the communist infiltrators.

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jacquire14 1 point ago +1 / -0

This is absolutely correct!

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HockeyMom4Trump 1 point ago +1 / -0

I was think8ng the same thing.

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learntocode 1 point ago +1 / -0

AND Republicans

Nixon spied on Kennedy and the DNC to see where they were getting illegal donations from. Many Republicans in on the same sources of finance.

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Basedinaus45 1 point ago +1 / -0

Rethinking everything.....

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tdwinner2020 1 point ago +1 / -0

Of course. I used to think the Valerie Plame affair may have been the first. Then I thought maybe Iran-Contra was a setup too. Now I think this: Watergate was the first. Eventually I may think Teapot Dome was the first, but for now I think Teapot Dome is where they got the idea for Watergate, Iran-Contra, the Plame thing, Russia collusion, and the Ukraine call.

And covid?? Did you know there was a swine flu pandemic in 1976? Did you know President Ford did all the same dog&pony show on TV that Trump did about fighting the flu and getting a vaccine out and all of that?! Did you not?

Well, they got the idea for the pandemic play from the 1918 Spanish flu.

And mail-in voting and mail-in vote fraud? Invented in 1864. See, soldiers were far from home and needed a way to vote, and they had a scheme going to vote for dead and non-existent soldiers that was caught in the nick of time.

Maybe the pattern is that something happens naturally and they think to stage a repeat.

But after 2020 I wonder. They obviously had great but great fucking writers for 2020. Maybe even Teapot Dome was staged. The Spanish flu probably not for technological reasons. But the 1976 pandemic? Well, we'd had bio labs for a couple of decades by then.

Before 2020 I thought the dems were nutty and that the deep state had met its match in Trump because he didn't fall for Russia collusion. Now I think we've had a deep state cabal capable of horrible things since at least the mid-50s, and probably since the end of WWII if not since earlier.

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mercynurse 1 point ago +1 / -0

Technically, both.

But mostly the latter.

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XCorneliusX 1 point ago +1 / -0

It was the party, not Nixon, who did Watergate. It was pinned on him though.

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jacquire14 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then somebody murdered all the people on the planes and in the buildings. Interesting to compare the convenient time of relatively empty buildings with the recent Nashville bombing at Christmas that had an alert for people to stay back. Terrorist usually try to do maximum damage to people; not property.

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motorheaD1340 1 point ago +1 / -0

He also lost a Presidential election to Kennedy due to voter fraud.

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otistoole 1 point ago +1 / -0

NIXON DID NOTHING WRONG

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WEWLADSDALWEW 1 point ago +1 / -0

Dude no way Nixon was a bad guy. He was trying to survive a rigged system. Unfortunately for him, there was yet no Rush, no alternative media, no internet, so he was helpless to defend himself.

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Uzaka123 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nixon's biggest flaw was trying to turn China away from authoritarianism by opening them up to trade with the west. Its a mistake that has the potential to damn the concept of freedom and our way of life. He didn't even give the order for watergate, his "Mistake" there was trying to protect his people.

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ausglitsch 1 point ago +1 / -0

at the time, it was common dinnertable talk that nixon was a "damn n* lover"

my mom lived through it; take that as you will

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DragonEnergy2 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nixon was an outsider. His own side (with help from the Democrats) stitched him up because he couldn't be controlled. The take down of VP Spiro Agnew (who was corrupt) was an early dry run. Nixon had no foreknowledge of Watergate, but was presented with Hobson's choice. Either report the scandal when he did find out just before the election (and lose) or else cover up. He got caught on the cover up, not the break-in.

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Singingthebattlecry 1 point ago +1 / -0

Nixon was not good. He and Kissinger are solely responsible for opening the door with China. They took us off the silver standard. They toppled elected leaders via the CIA. They were not friends whether or not Watergate was a set up. Many of the messes we have today can be traced to these two.