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No 50/50! (media.communities.win)
posted ago by PaigeAshley ago by PaigeAshley +2610 / -0
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Farage_massage 5 points ago +5 / -0

Because “Jew” isn’t antithetical to “American”. It doesn’t make sense as a statement, and points to someone perhaps inferring that they may align with the “Jewish homeland” more than America - which would be problematic.

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Liberty_Prime -5 points ago +1 / -6

The Catholic Homeland is Italy.

Would you worry about someone's loyalty to the Vatican overruling their Americanism? Why do you reserve these concers for people of different faiths that basically say the same thing? GOD COMES FIRST.

Besides. This whole dual citizenship is a bullshit trope anyway. Saying Jews have dual citizenship because they're eligible for citizenship in Israel is like saying everybody who's taller than 4.5 feet has ridden every rollercoaster in America...because they're tall enough to ride the ride.

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Farage_massage 8 points ago +8 / -0

First off, the Catholic Church is based out of the Vatican, not Italy.

Secondly, for most Catholics, this is at best equivalent to a pilgrimage site, not a “homeland promised to them by god” - It is far more similar to the relationship a Muslim has to Mecca, though even then, it’s far more watered down, as Catholics aren’t expected to visit per se, unlike Muslims, who are expressly told to do so as a core tenet of their religion (hajj), so your comparison is weak/incorrect on two fronts.

Finally, Muslims, Protestants, Methodist’s, Hindus etc don’t have automatic optional citizenship of their respective countries of interest - so the relationship is quite different.

I don’t begrudge anyone to engage in whatever religion or fantasy they please, but to say you are “Jew first, American second” will likely, for the aforementioned reasons, lead people to the “dual-and-rivaling interests” line of thought.

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Liberty_Prime 0 points ago +1 / -1

I see your argument. I also see that there was a time when being a German citizen was irrelevant if one was a Jew.

I can see that messing up loyalty to country in some.

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Farage_massage 4 points ago +4 / -0

It was irrelevant if you were disabled, sympathized with communists or were otherwise considered untermensch as well, yes.

I’m not sure what that has to do with people in the United States 75 years later though.