Gina Carano gets accused of antisemitism... and has been hired by an orthodox Jew.
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Judaism is effectively as separate from Christianity as Islam, what's the point in using the word God here in a mainly Christian forum? As if we share the same understanding of it..
Thread continued #3.
Just want to clarify something here, the Jews will be saved because they will accept Jesus, not for any other reason.
Coming back to the topic at hand:
In verse 7 It says that Israel did not find what it seeks, but that God gave Israel a spirit of stupor. How is Israel the church there? It's about Jews.
In v25, Israel has been partially hardened. How can that be the church? It's the Jews. So in V26, which is the very same sentence as V25, Israel is the Jews, not the church.
V28, which follows on from V25/26, says they are your enemies for the sake of the gospel, but they are beloved for the sake of the fathers. That cannot be the church, can it? It's the Jews.
This is pretzel interpretation on your part to make Israel equal the church in this passage. It's outright contradicted in the three verses I've explained.
It's also bizarre because V1 and the previous chapters have already established Jews as the topic of the passage.
You're not being forthright with me, are you saying all the natural branches will be saved?
No. Only those that are alive at the time of the second coming, i.e. after the fullness of the Gentiles has come in. They will convert and be saved. That's what I think v26/27 implies, assuming Israel means the Jews.
Now, care to tell me how you can interpret Israel in Rom 11 as anything but the Jews, given the descriptions of Israel having a spirit of stupor, not having found what it sought, having been hardened, and being enemies for the sake of the gospel, but beloved for the sake of the father?? Do you think the church is the enemy of the church for the sake of the gospel??
Disagree, they share one of the two parts of the Bible (Islam doesn't), and the NT, particularly Romans 11, instructs Christians not to have contempt for Jews despite their unbelief, but to regard them as the natural branches of God's tree that can be grafted in again alongside the grafted wild branches (Gentiles).
Haven't seen whole chapters of the Bible discussing Islam like that.
Everyone who practices Judaism is going to hell, everyone who practices Islam is going to hell, that is what I mean by 'effectively.'
Everyone who doesn't believe in Jesus is going to hell, with the possible exception of the ignorant.
Doesn't mean we may as well equate Buddhists = atheists = Jews = Muslims for most purposes, let alone how they use the word God.
The judeo christian god is the god of the founding fathers.
The reason the left can be so hypocritical and not even realize it is because they are godless, they are all impulse and feeling, not truth and principles.
That there is a single source of truth which is the source of creation and morally concerned is a unifying principle
It's better to be a sodomite than a Jew who rejects Christ