Gina Carano gets accused of antisemitism... and has been hired by an orthodox Jew.
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Verse 7 is still utter nonsense in the KJV when you swap church for Israel:
What then? The church hath not obtained that which [it] seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded [8] (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
So now the church isn't the elect. This is utter nonsense.
Note also verse 8 drawing from Isaiah; the same passage Jesus quoted to the Pharisees and Paul quoted to the Jews.
What you should come away with from 7 is that the Jews are, generally speaking, irrelevant. It's the elect that are solely important. I said basically the same thing in my previous comment so I don't know why you interpreted me like that.
You said Israel means the church in Romans 11.
I'm refuting that by substituting 'the church' for Israel in v7, and showing you that you get absolute nonsense, like the church not obtaining what it seeks, while the elect has obtained it. It's nonsense and logically implies that the church is not the elect and vice versa.
I'm not saying you think the church is different to the elect, I'm saying your stance that Israel = the church leads to that conclusion. You can't accept that. Therefore you must accept the only other alternative, which is Israel = Jews in this chapter. It's the only coherent reading.
It's not like it would even imply anything you don't accept, except that God still has a plan for the Jews, despite their current unbelief.
God does not have any special plan for Satan worshippers or Muslims, or say that they should be regarded as natural branches.
Which is what our debate was about: God has a plan for Jews, and Christians are instructed by scripture not to be arrogant towards them, nor act like that plan is nothing.
All the promises to Israel are given only to the elect. That should tell you all you need to know.
Romans 11:7 blatantly refutes you.