Gina Carano gets accused of antisemitism... and has been hired by an orthodox Jew.
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You said Israel means the church in Romans 11.
I'm refuting that by substituting 'the church' for Israel in v7, and showing you that you get absolute nonsense, like the church not obtaining what it seeks, while the elect has obtained it. It's nonsense and logically implies that the church is not the elect and vice versa.
I'm not saying you think the church is different to the elect, I'm saying your stance that Israel = the church leads to that conclusion. You can't accept that. Therefore you must accept the only other alternative, which is Israel = Jews in this chapter. It's the only coherent reading.
It's not like it would even imply anything you don't accept, except that God still has a plan for the Jews, despite their current unbelief.
God does not have any special plan for Satan worshippers or Muslims, or say that they should be regarded as natural branches.
Which is what our debate was about: God has a plan for Jews, and Christians are instructed by scripture not to be arrogant towards them, nor act like that plan is nothing.
All the promises to Israel are given only to the elect. That should tell you all you need to know.
Romans 11:7 blatantly refutes you.
God's people are the elect, but to a ignorant layment (like you) God's people are the Jews. Paul has to wrestle with this in his writings.
Haha, are you part of the elect and thus obtained what you're seeking, or are you part of the elect and thus not found what you're seeking? Who cares, right? Let's make scripture into nonsense. Gotta hang onto Israel = the elect in Romans 11 somehow. Also lets insert pretend star and hexagram are direct synonyms.... I've met Jews and progressives that twist scripture less than you.