We've already seen the media label Trump supporters, who support the activities at the Capitol, to ISIS. Is it possible ISIS isn't as bad and evil as the media makes them out to be?
Are they just the based patriots of the Middle East? Maybe they just want the US out of their region, and the US is framing them and painting them to be terrorists. Maybe any attacks on innocent civilians are simply US created false flags?
I just know if say China for example, was in the US, I know all of us here would probably form a similar "rebellion" against them... and they would probably have propaganda calling us terrorists as well.
Could this be accurate to how things really are?
The offense to get hung up on is: "They're slavers".
The left rejects this idea, but it directly stakes out their entire philosophical structure as bogus every time it is debated.
Yes, there's a laundry list of things worse ... but ... you're dragging the Left into an obvious set of insanities.
There's a reason Obama called ISIS by the name ISIL. Fervently. Until long after even ISIS had dropped the name.
"Islamic State in the Levant" sort of means the same thing ... unless you use some older, more generous maps/ideas of what "The Levant" is. The idea of "The Caliphate" resonates...
He basically felt he got naming rights from how much he was helping and supporting, and "Levant" is far more ambitious than "Syria".
This boggles the mind. But. There are a lot of small supporting dots.Any pattern you make connecting said dots is immediately "A conspiracy theory", but the dots are never disproven.
The simplest explanation, IMO, is that at least some chunk of the CIA/Black Ops guys have gone far enough off the leash (just like they did in the 70s-80s! See: Church commission) that stirring up trouble is how they fund themselves. (Black Ops are notorious for (A) having trouble getting official funding, and (B) resorting to funding methods that are innately problematic.)
Great explanation, and finally I see somebody who truly gets the ISIL tag that Obama was using and why it is a concern.
You can really see the petulant man-child if you line up a slew of videos of him on this. I've lost track of the source, but he get's questioned on it really directly once and whining about it around the edges. "It's not just Syria!"
His open, public, well-documented statements on this are really a comprehensive case (IMO) that lead me to "Ok, now I want to know just WTFBBQ was actually going on in Benghazi/Iran deal, etc. ... because it can't possibly be anything good."
No. Not even close. I would encourage you to read ISIS's own publications where they were VERY clear about what they were doing and what they wanted. In short, ISIS wanted to set up a "pure country of true believers" and attack the world around them. They split the world into two parts: dar al'Islam (world of those who submitted/world of the clean) and dar al'haram (world of the defiled). Their goal can be then further summarized into two parts. 1. Through military conquest (as commanded by their religious writings), gain control of as much of the world as possible in order to cleanse it, and 2. Start a war that would be so great, so utterly huge, that it would kick start the Islamic version of Armageddon.
In their beliefs, this final war would result in God physically coming down to put a stop to all evil and usher in an era of complete peace and heaven on Earth. This is why so many of their followers were so happy to kill, they really and truly thought that their wanton murder would play a part in bringing ultimate paradise to all. There is a further belief that those killed during this time would be resurrected in order to have their "sacrifice" repaid so they could also enjoy the new Earth. Ask the ISIS foot soldier about this, and they would firmly tell you that those they killed would not be dead forever, so they were not really killing anyone.
There is a name for this sort of belief system. It's a sort of completely fanatical blood cult that can be placed with other types of beliefs that can broadly be named "utopianists". Their ideas are ALWAYS the same: that they--this select group-- has the ultimate secret to building a perfect utopia, and all those who oppose them are therefore evil. They have gone by many names: communists, various cult leaders, Shining Path, Maoists, Khemer Rouge, Nazis, etc. In the end, their belief systems, no matter their names or claims of "scienece", "dialectict" or "religious decree" always lead to absolute mass killings, every time, without exception.
To juxtapose those who protested/rioted on January 6th...those protesters just wanted an audit of a vote that was clearly manipulated and wished to hold their representatives accountable and have their voices heard. As we now know, the breaching of the capitol building was not done or lead by those people nor did it happen after President Trump spoke, but beforehand. This even has furthen been used by the media to label any and all who differ with their views on the election, or conservatives in general, as evil.
A closing thought: as to those politicians who have been clamoring in the media for our own citizens to treated like ISIS fanatics in our own country, to actually be hunted down and killed...listen very closely and carefully to their words. Read their writings, watch their speeches, pay close attention to what they believe and what their followers are physically doing...
They are utopianists!
And now the Utopianists want to disarm us. Where gave we seen this movie before? NEVER GIVE UP YOUR GUNS!
This is why the Left has the underlying oxymoronic/hypocritical obsession with so many philosophies that their stated goals would explicitly reject.
Political tags – such as royalist, communist, democrat, populist, fascist, liberal, conservative, and so forth – are never basic criteria. The human race divides politically into those who want people to be controlled and those who have no such desire. -- Robert A. Heinlein
Their viewpoint is a core rejection of the (IMO) core idea of Americanism: What's the minimum set of rules that yields a civilization? (Yes, we're a long way from there.)
ISIS was beheading people for being Christian. Putting them in cages and submerging them in water. Crucifying people. Lighting them on fire.
We need to be out of the Middle East, but in no way is ISIS the good guys. They are pure evil.
I would say our CIA and ISIS are closer in likeness than anything else.
A perspective to add to your considerations.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=fQLG5AvX8v4
Well, the thing is, our stupid US policy under Bush and Obama literally created ISIS. They probably knew ISIS would violent, and that the media would go hysterical about them, and the probably didn't care, because it would just provide more fuel for the fires of war.