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posted ago by ghost_of_aswartz ago by ghost_of_aswartz +69 / -0

The midwest is being hammered by extreme cold once again thanks to arctic displacement caused by deranged air currents; collectively called "the polar vortex" There are reports that in Texas they had to shut off the windmills because they were icing over. So basically, windmills are a fair-weather energy producer. Same with solar panels. Not only do they underperform in the cold, they actually get snowed on, and if there is defrost technology, that costs so much energy that it nullifies many of the energy gains.

Everyone knows that the cold causes cars difficulty in starting. This is not because of the combustion, but because of the BATTERIES. Cold batteries struggle to work properly because the cold affects the chemistry of the battery--it slows down chemical reactions and thus it's harder for batteries to deliver sufficient spark to the spark plugs. (they should use high capacity capacitors in addition for the initial crank, imho)

There's going to be a shitton of priuses on the side of the road dead because their batteries just won't work. It's already happening now. With combustion cars, someone can still jump you and you can make it to somewhere warm.

Taken together, GREEN TECHNOLOGY is not cold-compatible---it's at best, wildly problematic in the cold, and at worst a total failure in the cold.

And yet, entire industries are tripping over themselves in order to changeover to electric. I personally really like electric, or getting away from fossil fuels in vehicles, however, we don't have a sufficient infrastructure technology to mitigate combustibles just yet, other than going all-in on nuclear and somehow storing the energy it produces as hydrogen batteries or some other kind of cold-resistant rechargeable battery.

The problem is: BATTERIES. That's the real problem. Storage.

I believe we're going to go back to mechanical storage. As in flywheels and wind-up clocks (advanced springs). Because chemical is bullshit. It just IS bullshit right now. We need to scramble to anything that's better than Lithium Ion batteries. They are total bullshit. Heavy, inefficent, and wildly overhyped in terms of their recharge numbers--everyone knows this. They develop memory and then they become bullshit.

I am not a shill for fossil fuels or nuclear. I personally have a love hate for nuclear. There is no doubt we have to use nuclear because it can be the cleanest energy there is. It just has to be done with SAFETY FIRST.

They need to be STANDARDIZED across the world

Thorium molten salt reactors are the way to go. They don't melt down, you just just them down and they cool off. They are safer in terms of quakes and problems. They use rare earth nuclear fuel more sparingly. They are less efficient than other fission reactors but again, Safety first. They are still 20,000x+ more productive than damned windmills and solar.

Solar and wind will never provide the needs for infrastructure, esp in the case of extreme cold. Run the numbers yourselves. If you're honest, you'll see the same thing I'm seeing. It's just not there. Nuclear is the future. It has to be done right: Safety. No more meltdowns or ruining the earth for millions of years.

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Awakened 0 points ago +3 / -3

Yep. Batteries work better in the cold as well. It’s the spark plugs that freeze up. I had a Maverick that had top of the line spark plugs. Always started when the rest of my families cars wouldn’t. They all had the same exact brand of batteries.

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Waitafriggingminute 1 point ago +1 / -0

????? I hope this is a troll, I really do. Lead acid batteries perform their worst when cold. Spark plugs don't "freeze up". They are made of metal and ceramic, nothing really affected by temperature. Don't even get me started on the "I had a Maverick" line....

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Awakened 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lead batteries do just fine in cold weather, but the kind of batteries that hybrids and full electrical cars use aren’t lead. You seem to conflate the two. And yes, some spark plugs are better than others. Especially for winter. How do you not know this? They sell specific ones for winter.

Yes, I owned a Maverick. Most reliable car I ever owned. I’m very old.

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Waitafriggingminute 1 point ago +1 / -0

Heat range of a spark plug refers to how quickly the end of the plug radiates it's heat back to the engine after cylinder detonation- not how cold it is outside. You may need to change a heat range if your state really changes the mix of your gasoline in the winter time, but that has nothing to do with the plug. Let's see, Maverick. Probably 250 I-6, 2bbl carter carb. The Pinto I owned started pretty easily in the deep freeze of a Michigan winter as well.. But that wasn't due to the spark plugs. (I'm not a spring chicken, either). Lead Acid batteries do NOT perform as well in the winter. According to Industrial Battery Products, a lead acid cell loses approximately 50% of it's ampacity when its temp is lowered to -22 degrees F. At less than 32 degrees F, it's already down 20%.