yep. some people when they get a big dose of fentanyl have this happen to them. they are still conscious and basically suffocate. results in cardiopulmonary arrest
It will be interesting to see what happens if it goes to Court. The issue is not the hold, as compared to OP here or if it was approved. The issue is good judgment.
The information you furnish here suggests even more strongly that holding him down like that for so long, even after he lost consciousness, maybe wasn't such a great idea. With 4 cops there, GF wasn't getting away. The first couple minutes you could say were reasonable.
Can an expert testify that GF wouldve died even without Police involvement? That's really what it comes down to, but realistically it's more about do they want riots worse than ever, and preferably Civil War.
as a counter argument to that, he needed an ambulance, and one was promptly called. at the same time it can be impossible to ventilate people with wooden chest, and theres the possibility that absolutely nothing could have been done for him even if he was hooked up to a ventilator before he had trouble breathing
i will say that this is only an opinion. im not a doctor and completely unqualified to come to this conclusion.
still, there was definitely some poor judgement involved there by the cops. i'd expect some kind of punishment to stick
yep. some people when they get a big dose of fentanyl have this happen to them. they are still conscious and basically suffocate. results in cardiopulmonary arrest
It will be interesting to see what happens if it goes to Court. The issue is not the hold, as compared to OP here or if it was approved. The issue is good judgment.
The information you furnish here suggests even more strongly that holding him down like that for so long, even after he lost consciousness, maybe wasn't such a great idea. With 4 cops there, GF wasn't getting away. The first couple minutes you could say were reasonable.
Can an expert testify that GF wouldve died even without Police involvement? That's really what it comes down to, but realistically it's more about do they want riots worse than ever, and preferably Civil War.
as a counter argument to that, he needed an ambulance, and one was promptly called. at the same time it can be impossible to ventilate people with wooden chest, and theres the possibility that absolutely nothing could have been done for him even if he was hooked up to a ventilator before he had trouble breathing
i will say that this is only an opinion. im not a doctor and completely unqualified to come to this conclusion.
still, there was definitely some poor judgement involved there by the cops. i'd expect some kind of punishment to stick