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Choomguy 151 points ago +153 / -2

Those things are an eyesore.

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Formerlurker92 98 points ago +98 / -0

An ineffective eyesore

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Gotanidea 61 points ago +61 / -0

Lots and lots and lots of birds. Not environmental for birds at all!

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h3xAd3c1m4L 45 points ago +45 / -0

And you can’t recycle them.

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DoIMAGAYouHornyBaby 64 points ago +64 / -0

They take more energy to make than they produce in their lifetime.

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Darkheartisland 30 points ago +30 / -0

But they fund the lifestyles of the uniparty after leaving office.

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Kamalas_a_Bitch 17 points ago +17 / -0

I saw one of these being transported on the highway. Was like five 90’ long semi trucks. At that was just the propeller part.

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AgentGTO 12 points ago +12 / -0

They also take 7 trucks to deliver 1 windmill to a site. I remember seeing the blades be transported when traveling for work, it requires a specialized trailer, a truck and pilot car to move just 1 blade and I believe the column is 3 pieces as well.

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 9 points ago +9 / -0

True and so fucking ridiculous.

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BasedMechanic 16 points ago +16 / -0

Also there is 18 cubic tons of concrete PER windmill at the base.

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Curlybill 5 points ago +6 / -1

Not familiar with that unit of measure is it akin to square liters

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 5 points ago +6 / -1

No. It is weight.

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apophis2036 2 points ago +2 / -0

18 metric tonnes?

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BeijingJoeHastoGo 7 points ago +7 / -0

18 metric shit tonnes.

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PonySoldier66 1 point ago +1 / -0

notwithstanding the carbon to put it there, IT IS NEVER REMOVED when the inevitable economic failure disables the project.

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z06MAGA 6 points ago +6 / -0

Hahahaha, thank you for this. Guess I'm just buzzed enough to find windmills spontaneously exploding hilarious. Can't believe I've never heard of this before... how are these things even legal?

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apophis2036 6 points ago +6 / -0

When the wind doesn't blow, they burn natural gas. I call that cheating.

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PonySoldier66 1 point ago +1 / -0

oh the wind is blowing, its just too cold to make energy.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

I have not heard of this. What makes them explode?

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hiddensfinger 9 points ago +9 / -0

Moving to fast, they're literally have to be slowed down.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 8 points ago +8 / -0

You use gears for that. I don't think they have a transmission, so you brake to a stop before switching gears.

Exploding brakes?

Gender fluid shift juice is probably the culprit, lol

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apophis2036 6 points ago +6 / -0

They use natural gas as back up and if the motor malfunctions, it can blow up.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

NG as backup for wind.

Wtf

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Nibba 8 points ago +8 / -0

Well maybe they should get jobs building solar panals and they won’t get killed.

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GoldwaterVoter 5 points ago +5 / -0

Wait .. are the eagles going to be trained to make the solar panels?? I am getting really confused with all the buzzing of windmills I hear.

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pede8 7 points ago +8 / -1

American Eagles!

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FliesTheFlag 6 points ago +6 / -0

Seen a windmill farm that has a fucking watch tower that some dude sits in all day looking for them incase they gotta shut the windmills down so the bird doesnt fly into them, smh, windmills are a damn joke and cost more money/energy/environmently wise than they are worth.

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lixa 3 points ago +3 / -0

And since birds kill mosquitos and also spread seeds it destroys the ecosystem. Look at Biden, destroying the ecosystem and causing Texans to freeze to death.

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TD_Covfefe_Crusader 10 points ago +10 / -0

Bats too. They have pushed some European species to the brink of extinction.

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booblitchutz 9 points ago +11 / -2

And they cause cancer

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XERIPHYTE 2 points ago +2 / -0

The noise causes cancer rrrrrrraaaaarrrrrrrrraaaaaa

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Tallsie 2 points ago +2 / -0

I would like an extensive study done to see what they do to rainfall patterns as well. Farmers in my area swear that since these things went up, rainfall doesn’t make it inside the windmill zone like it use to.

Would be interesting to model their airflow disruption similar to a small mountain range and see what the long term effects will be to our nations bread basket.

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NullifyAndSecede 42 points ago +43 / -1

If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in 5 years there'd be a shortage of sand.

— Milton Friedman

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apophis2036 5 points ago +5 / -0

Why are they using shovels? It's a work program. Then they should use spoons.

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fegeline 12 points ago +12 / -0

Just like socialism

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NullifyAndSecede 22 points ago +23 / -1

Socialism is a wonderful idea. It is only as a reality that it has been disastrous. Among people of every race, color, and creed, all around the world, socialism has led to hunger in countries that used to have surplus food to export.... Nevertheless, for many of those who deal primarily in ideas, socialism remains an attractive idea -- in fact, seductive. Its every failure is explained away as due to the inadequacies of particular leaders

― Thomas Sowell

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DisbandTheCIA 6 points ago +6 / -0

And an Inefficient eyesore

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FireannDireach 7 points ago +8 / -1

My dad bought a smaller one in CA back in the 80's, for the tax break. It was broken more than it ran, it never even paid for itself. He dumped it on a sucker for pennies on the dollar when they ended the tax break.

One of my female friends dated a guy who repaired them. She said that he said it was the best job, in terms of job security, ever, but they didn't pay enough. But there was always work.

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DeadRepublic 19 points ago +19 / -0

They are way out by Amarillo. Amarillo is already an eyesore. Its insult to injury.

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labajada 10 points ago +10 / -0

I get a lot of tourists from Amarillo in my business. They say "yes sir", don't steal shit, are pro-Trump, and are delighted they don't have to wear a mask in my store (this usually starts the political discussion). It may be the most based city in Texas.

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ThatsGold 4 points ago +4 / -0

I'm a transplant to Amarillo. I will support your business whether I need your product/service or not

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Choomguy 11 points ago +11 / -0

Funny how a pipeline crossing the appalachian trail puts them in a tizzy, but blot out the sky with windmills and they love it.

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FireannDireach 9 points ago +10 / -1

Or when you're Ted Kennedy and you block them, because they ruin the view from your multi-million dollar summer home on the island.

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Kanan_Jarrus 2 points ago +2 / -0

Lurch opposed it as well.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/ari-fleischer-john-kerry-climate-change-hypocrisy

I guess environmental stuff is only important when it doesn't affect them. Kerry got called out on it at a climate summit and basically said that he was important enough that it shouldn’t apply to him. What ever happen d to lead by example?

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AmericanPatriot6f0 9 points ago +9 / -0

I don't understand how it is environmentally friendly to destroy the landscape with giant, loud, ugly pillars.

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KekistanPM 8 points ago +8 / -0

Not to mention an earsore. I watched videos of people complaining about the incessant humming; I don't know how they could stand it. I would rather move into an apartment that have to live in a nice house near a turbine.

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247MAGA 5 points ago +5 / -0

No joke we looked at a house for sale in amongst those turbines. There was this weird humming that resonated in your body and both my husband and I felt sick and got headaches. We liked the house and property but it was quickly ruled out because of those windmills everywhere.

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AnthonyS 87 points ago +88 / -1

As a Texan, I can tell you I’ve never seen more than half in operation even in the middle of a hot Tx summer. If anyone thinks our electric demand is higher now than on a 100+ day, they are kidding themselves.

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SpaceCadet 68 points ago +69 / -1

^This. The news has been prepped all week to tell us of “rolling outages” because of everyone heating their homes. You can’t tell me the heat usage is more power consumption then weeks of AC use in our 105 degree weather. They knew the windmills would lock up and they are trying to pass it off on anything else they can come up with. My home they are turning the power in and off every 15 minutes to stagger electric consumption. No power lines are down. It’s 7 degrees, I have farm animals and children. So fun...

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TexasPiper 18 points ago +18 / -0

Also a ton of people use NG for their heaters sooo....

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SpaceCadet 18 points ago +18 / -0

We use propane to heat our house but the heater runs on electricity. I have a generator to hook up the heater too but majority of people do not and they are suffering because of governments decision to rely on green energy. With zero back up plans for weather to behave like weather. This chill is expected to stay for an entire week with more snow expected tomorrow. We have gotten 7 inches already

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KekistanPM 13 points ago +13 / -0

Knowing government, their answer will be to do nothing. "Just a once in a fifty year storm folks, no need to get crazy here!"

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Curlybill 13 points ago +13 / -0

All kidding aside usually the best thing the government can do is nothing, when the did something it was to incentivize this scenario.

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Caliprisoner 2 points ago +2 / -0

A do nothing government is actually good

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +5 / -1

Zillions of things government should do nothing about. People freezing in their homes is not one of them.

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TexasPiper 5 points ago +5 / -0

A natural gas genset should be an absolute priority for everyone. Then a gas or diesel backup for if things really get sideways.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

A NG furnace still requires electricity.

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TexasPiper 4 points ago +4 / -0

I know but I mean the loading on the grid is less than a pure electric furnace.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yes. Bigly

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rn10950 1 point ago +1 / -0

I can't imagine anywhere near as much as an electric one.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

True. A small amount to start the fire, and then the blower motor. Electricity is a terrible way to generate heat.

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dldeuce 13 points ago +13 / -0

Yeah, that was the big story all day. Peak demand! We've got peak demand here people because running the central fan unit of course burns as much power as running the central fan and refrigeration compressor unit in the summer! I don't believe it. The whole state is powered off propane or natural gas for heat. Sending people home for covid has been a big power saver as well, and today just about the whole state is closed with icy roads. They want us to believe today is peak demand?

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Taupkek 6 points ago +6 / -0

This will become the new normal. We will ALL be forced into rolling brownouts and blackouts to fight climate change. All part of the Green New Deal. If they can get away with this crap in Texas, they will implement it all over the country.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

It is their plan.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

In one hour of peak usage, heating everyone's home uses less electricity than cooling it? I'm in WI. 7 degrees is cold.

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cook_does 36 points ago +38 / -2

I am here in Dallas, been without power all day. It sort of feels like its on purpose. Wal-mart has power. Fuck them

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Frog_Anne 8 points ago +8 / -0

It's simple, if you donate the same amount to politicians that Walmart does, you'll always have power too. See how it works?

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ThirteenPercenter 3 points ago +4 / -1

There are Walmarts without power in Texas right now. This isn’t a conspiracy.

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RS34ME 8 points ago +8 / -0

I’m north of Dallas and ours was out for 9 hours. Now I’m just praying it stays on.

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cook_does 10 points ago +10 / -0

Same! I have never been so pissed off at some random guy named T. Boon Pickens as I am today. Fuck him and the windmill from west Texas he rode in on.

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residue69 8 points ago +8 / -0

He didn't even build them. He just ordered them from GE then whined about no place to put them till the gov't bailed him out. Then he died.

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DemDestroyer 6 points ago +6 / -0

Didn't know he died... sounded like a good plan, until weather ruins it. Imagine if Pickens got his way and 85% of the country was run on wind... damn probably half the country would be freezing their ASSeS off from Global Warming!

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dnewlander 2 points ago +2 / -0

He got his money from oil. You peons can live on wind.

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FireannDireach 3 points ago +3 / -0

I had one on the east coast, a bit pricey to install, but you can save some pouring the slab for it yourself. I got through many blizzards and a hurricane with it. The key is having a big enough tank(s).

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RS34ME 2 points ago +2 / -0

We are full electric here. No gas. Not sure if that will work in our scenario.🤷‍♀️

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RS34ME 2 points ago +2 / -0

Thanks! I’ll take a look.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Generac is about 30 minutes from here.

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fegeline 14 points ago +14 / -0

Over in Europe they haven't been operational for months, right before the cold arrived they also shut down yet another nuclear reactor "for the environment" and are now burning coal instead. People are told to charge their phones in their gas/diesel cars.

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dldeuce 10 points ago +10 / -0

Don't think for a second that just because the blades are spinning that it's actually producing power. We learned that in California. They leave it spinning intentionally even if it will never produce power again. There's a lot of that going on in the older wind power fields.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Wtf. What would make them outlive their usefulness if they still spin?

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dldeuce 9 points ago +9 / -0

Their internals are broken and the maintenance costs are infeasible. The costs to dismantle are also infeasible. If they shut down the blades, everyone knows and the whole fraudulent gig is up.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

Why do their internals break?

Sounds like a shitshow

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dldeuce 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm no expert. I read an article explaining the nonsense of the big California wind farms. The cost model doesn't include some of the expensive maintenance costs. Rather than lose big money repairing them, they abandon them. Not dismantle and dispose of them, they can't afford that either. They abandon them leaving the blades spinning and killing birds so no one will know how many ugly windmills in the field are never going to work again.

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dldeuce 4 points ago +4 / -0

Oh and btw, let's not forget that when the power plant fails and can't produce power ever again, and while they leave the blades spinning indefinitely until it's eventually abandoned (until ultimately the tax payer has to pay to dismantle it) the windmill will continue to kill birds indefinitely!

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Still confused. They let it spin so the bearing doesn't seize. Got it. Whatever makes it not work can't be repaired noway nohow, for some mysterious reason. What difference does it make if the bearing seizes?

It's almost like you should study the life cycle of a prototype before mass producing them.

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FireannDireach 2 points ago +2 / -0

From what I recall, that's to keep the bearings from locking, which means taking the head off and replacing them, which is more than the cost of buying it.

They break constantly anyway, see my other post.

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Wyrmshadow 7 points ago +7 / -0

I got a phone call 20 minutes ago about rolling blackouts

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zentoco 57 points ago +58 / -1

Impeach Trump for it. The ONLY obvious course of action to take since he allowed the cold air to enter the country.

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NC_patriot 22 points ago +22 / -0

CoLd WeAtHeR iS wHiTe SuPrMaCy hEaT iS rAcIsT

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spelunking_librator 4 points ago +4 / -0

electricity is bigot

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Formerlurker92 9 points ago +9 / -0

This sort of thing is brand new and has never happened before bad orange man. Peach him

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WhitePowerRanger 4 points ago +4 / -0

Should have put windbreakers on the wall. Smh

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spelunking_librator 3 points ago +3 / -0

impeach Arctic!

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kosmikdebris 49 points ago +50 / -1

Freezing and starvation is a feature of Marxism - Not a bug.

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Imransgarage 6 points ago +6 / -0

Can’t have people without power in this weather, will be deaths and homes destroyed in that.

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247MAGA 9 points ago +9 / -0

my kid is home from school today because of the extreme cold temps (in the Midwest -10 outside before windchill)

If we lost heat it would quickly become a medical emergency- isn't it in the 30s in Texas right now? That's easily survivable in an unheated house- maybe not for days on end, but for a day? I've done that before in a very drafty house in winter (20s temp)

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 6 points ago +6 / -0

In thread people in TX saying 7.

That's cold. More on the way.

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247MAGA 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oof that is pretty cold if you're not used to it. I swear every time I check the weather it changes forecasts aren't even remotely reliable anymore- when I looked yesterday it said 25-30 for Dallas area- how can they get this shit so wrong?

Same thing for here. They said tomorrow would be around 0 but now school is cancelled again and it's gonna be - teens again somehow.

Y'all I think they're manipulating the weather right now. And I think they're "punishing" Texas for their independence talk. Is that too tinfoil hat?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Anything with water in it never gets used to freezing. It busts, then leaks everywhere when it thaws.

This shit's criminal.

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Imransgarage 3 points ago +3 / -0

IDK but areas of OK were well under zero earlier. Not sure on TX.

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dldeuce 2 points ago +2 / -0

20s

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Curlybill 2 points ago +2 / -0

Low teens my part of God's country

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pmyourcovfefes 1 point ago +1 / -0

I have family in TX who’s power has been out all day. Was in the teens with a real feel of -1 where they’re at. Propane sold out several days ago so they’re roughing it with layers of clothes and cuddling with pets.

I do worry about the elderly in this situation. My grandma is freezing and wearing a light jacket when it’s 75 so I’m hoping all the elderly are doing ok with loss of power and the cold temperatures.

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TGNX 38 points ago +38 / -0

Maybe a nuke plant would work. Since they don't produce the carbons.

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james43552352345 14 points ago +15 / -1

or you know....just buy natural gas plants that are safe and have a reliable fuel source?

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TGNX 21 points ago +21 / -0

I'm saying if they want green stuff, nuclear plants are as green and reliable as you can get.

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Angerisagift 0 points ago +3 / -3

Hydroelectric and geothermal and solar are all pretty green. Nuclear is a marvel, but nuclear ☢️ has its own issues. Fukushima Daiichi could have been much worse and it may be worse than most realize. Experts say another Chernobyl is virtually impossible, but experts are often surprised by things deemed unlikely happening given time and human nature.

And nuclear is not nearly as reliable as advertised. Look up the big fiasco of the San Onofre nuclear plant. Now there’s a radioactive eyesore on the SoCal coast to the tune of billions of dollars.

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TGNX 16 points ago +16 / -0

And nothing is heard about all the other plants in the US and in Europe and Asia. We hear about Fukushima and Chernobyl and San Onofre because they unusual and nuclear power so sensitive a political topic.

Tell me about all the accidents and lives lost during major disasters in coal and gas plants. These places aren't political, so we don't hear about them.

EDIT: And let's not forget the original issue here, that these wind farms and solar farms do not function as intended in all cases. Nuclear, coal, and gas do.

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Angerisagift 1 point ago +1 / -0

The more complicated an engineering project the more possible failure modes. San Onofre was a big deal because it didn’t just lead to the utility screwing all the rate payers in a very populous area, it meant the entire grid supply was compromised. The greedy utility here in San Diego had used the existence of San Onofre as a justification for closing down gas fired turbines by the coast because they weren’t really needed (but in reality San Onofre ended up failing and getting mothballed prematurely but the leaker plants here were already gone and the land sold).

I am not anti nuclear, but it’s simply not accurate to depict it as this great deal that works with no issues.

While coal fired plants don’t have disasters resulting in sudden multi billion dollar losses the burning of coal actually introduces way more radioactivity into the air. Coal mining is obviously dangerous and hard work, but the operation of a coal plant can be akin to having people unknowingly smoke.

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apophis2036 3 points ago +3 / -0

New modular nuclear power plants are safe and run for 20 years. Just pop the lid and replace the reactor core. Recycle the uranium and store the rad waste at Yucca.

Chernobyl had a design flaw, graphite moderators. Fukushima's backup generators worked kept the control rods cool (after a 9.1 mag temblor w/ tsunami) but the replacement batteries were the wrong type. The reactor core melted into a sustained critical mass, along with control rods in cooling tanks. But Japan is using robots to try to separate the melted core into sub-critical segments.

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apophis2036 4 points ago +4 / -0

Three Mile Island never came close to a core meltdown and a very small amount of airborne radioactivity was released into the environment. All hype but effectively killed nuclear power in the U.S.

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Angerisagift 1 point ago +1 / -0

Great history, doesn’t change the fact that there were catastrophic losses of multi billion dollar plants and nuclear radiation escaped. Here in SoCal it was shady dealing and apparently out of spec steam turbines. Now a piece of prized coast is a nuclear containment eyesore for the foreseeable future. I know nuclear can work well (remember when the USNavy was super competent?) but I am reacting to the idiocy that all solar and wind be abandoned because of a record setting I’ve storm.

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Jarlason10 3 points ago +3 / -0

More people die from gas plant malfunctions than nuclear plant ones.

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TGNX 1 point ago +1 / -0

Never said it works with no issues. I said it works as intended, with fewer carbon emissions than coal or gas, as opposed to wind and solar.

I agree that coal has definite long term issues to address (we are paying for it in ways other than carbon, as you have said). Coal and gas plants are better than wind and solar in that they are proven technologies. For some reason, Europe is busy shutting down its nuclear plants in favor of wind and solar and coal and gas.

Clown world confirmed, I'd say.

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Angerisagift 2 points ago +2 / -0

Well France 🇫🇷 gets a huge percentage of its electricity from nuclear. I am with you that it’s a clown world. Thing is where I live solar is already working well for many homes and businesses. Responsible grid management should include multiple power sources. And it wasn’t too long ago that on this very site people were bragging about Texas having a fully independent grid- didn’t look into that then but now I am thinking Texans would love to get power from neighboring states. Abandoning solar or wind because of a record storm is the same sort of thinking that says no nuclear ever cause of Fukushima or Chernobyl or San Onofre...

If you’ve known someone who has suffered a horrible event that is quite rare you can see how some people go to understandable but irrational lengths trying to prevent a recurrence.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 4 points ago +4 / -0

Because obsolete technology is all we've got.

Nothing totally safe that runs on spent fuel rods that we have enough of to power the Country for 500 years. No Sir.

Go crawl back under your rock.

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Aries_cz 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fukishima was built in rather poor place for a nuclear power plant though (in flood zone). And it only fail because the auxiliary power generators (not nuclear) got flooded.

Chernobyl is extremely unlikely to repeat without extrenal involvement (aka someone literally blowing the plant up). First of, the technology used in Cheronbyl was outdated even by the time it happened, and you know, communism forcing people to report good results, no matter what (same as China with the flu, if it wasn't for the overblown bureaucracy and favoritism, it might have remained contained in Wuhan region)

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PrairieRaine88 0 points ago +1 / -1

Interesting you mention Chernobyl, there is a fungus eating the radioactive matter, and I believe it's eating the Elephants Foot also.

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marikiri 8 points ago +8 / -0

yeah but that lowers china's profit margins, we cant have that

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side_o_beef 6 points ago +6 / -0

It would be hilarious to buy coal from China for a year just to see what the left would say. Ha, who am I kidding? They would be silent like a Biden rally.

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Jarlason10 3 points ago +3 / -0

Nuclear power is safer, produces more and is more reliable. Fossil gas and fossil fuel plant malfunctions have killed more than 100x the numbers that nuclear power plants have.

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james43552352345 1 point ago +1 / -0

Except the dirty secret is that nuclear is the most expensive form of power. You have to factor in what they call the lifetime costs of the facility. We have nuke plants in CA that are decommissioned. They produce no power at all but we still have to spend millions in maintenance fixing these facilities. They also keep all the waste in above-ground storage casks because there is no place to put it. The only way I would support nuclear is if it is built deep underground in the earth. That way if there is a disaster we can just block off the facility and abandon it underground. Since it is underground, no risk of nuclear leaks.

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iagreeson -1 points ago +1 / -2

I would American's heating costs stay low rather than have more natural gas power plants increasing the demand for natural gas.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

You can't get more tone deaf than that. US is the Saudi Arabia of NG. We should be using it for everything possible, and producing as much of it as possible. Almost every other type of power plant is more efficient with a NG co-generator.

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iagreeson 1 point ago +1 / -0

Fair enough. For sure, we should be producing as much of it as possible. We should produce as much energy as needed, while keeping the cost down. That's really what my comment was trying to get across, keeping the cost of home heating down while balancing our electrical needs.

The US in 2019 produced 966 billion kwh from coal, down from 1966 billion kwh in 2000. Natural gas is up from 601 billion kwh in 2000 to 1582 billion kwh in 2019.

My real problem is this whole green energy BS, pretending we are making so much electricity from wind/solar while the reality is that the loss of coal power has entirely been made up from natural gas.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well that's a swap I'll take. NG is significantly better than coal, although industry pros assert it isn't that bad. It got better.

I don't know how much we've been getting from wind and solar, but we've lost a lot by taking nukes off line.

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Couchbeer69 5 points ago +5 / -0

We have two of them in texas, comanche peak and stp. I've heard they're looking to shut comanche peak down. Idiots

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TGNX 3 points ago +3 / -0

I can't facepalm hard enough to convey my disappointment.

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BigDaddyBigTrump 27 points ago +27 / -0

I'm sure this news devastates the Chinaman in Chief.

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Formerlurker92 14 points ago +14 / -0

it makes my nipples hard just thinking about those trump supporters freezing to death

-joe

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SpaceCadet 9 points ago +9 / -0

Wind energy accounted for 23% of Texas energy last year powering over 7 million homes fully in 2020 with natural gas at 45%

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KekistanPM 4 points ago +4 / -0

Meanwhile everyone in Austin is ignoring leftist Mayor Adler. It's big bad Abbott's fault.

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dldeuce 4 points ago +4 / -0

That fraction being almost 1/4. Texas leads the nation in dependence on wind power.

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FuckPlebbit 2 points ago +2 / -0

Nearly 1/4th of the states power is wind, which is crazy considering it’s an oil state but it also loves cheap energy.

Not really Abbott’s fault but will be blamed on him regardless.

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FuckPlebbit 2 points ago +2 / -0

He doesn’t control what power systems are expanded in Texas however, ERCOT doesn’t have that power.

Don’t get me wrong, he’s too much neocon for me and I’m not a fan of him either, all I’m saying is this isn’t his fault directly.

He should be pushing for large scale nuclear power plants if he wants the state to be reliant on itself for energy, but unfortunately oil and “green” energy companies will never let that happen.

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Wyrmshadow 22 points ago +22 / -0

In DFW. I just got a phone call about rolling blackouts. Wtf? This isn't california. It's bad enough that not only did my heater break but I'm running a fever since the snow fell.

There is a lake in front of my house, city park. It's completely frozen. That's never happened.

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Gotanidea 17 points ago +17 / -0

Global warming sure is warm.....

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spelunking_librator 1 point ago +1 / -0

nuke the racist poles... this is a terrorist attack by cold

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Cyborgpatriot 1 point ago +1 / -0

We could sure have some of that by now lol

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dldeuce 5 points ago +5 / -0

Who told you this isn't California? Who do you think is voting for these politicians?

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MSG1000 2 points ago +2 / -0

Dominion!

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rupok2 5 points ago +5 / -0

400k people moved to texas this year alone where u think those people are coming from?

This shitstains will destroy the country even more.

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Major_Nutt 7 points ago +7 / -0

You shouldn't be able to vote in state elections for 5 years after moving, so you don't fuck up the state with your shitty ideas.

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247MAGA 2 points ago +2 / -0

its not completely frozen, you need weeks of low temps for that- it's surface is frozen. Sorry about the rolling blackouts, that sucks. So tired of government-induced malfeasance and mismanagement :(

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C00gsHouse281 21 points ago +21 / -0

Leftists/Fake Environmentalists: We need to build more windmilll and solar farms and eliminate everything else. This will prevent events like this in the future!!!111

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WhitePowerRanger 6 points ago +6 / -0

Username checks out?

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sometimescanbefunny 3 points ago +3 / -0

It's like... he was made for this

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Curlybill 2 points ago +2 / -0

Heard once upon a time they use less than 50% at a given time to compensate for lack of predictability vs grind demands.

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Zadok 19 points ago +20 / -1

More people have died in Ted Kennedy's car than in a US nuclear power accident. Just say'n.

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Keiichi81 18 points ago +19 / -1

Or stop fucking opposing nuclear power, which is the only viable replacement for fossil fuel that can reliably meet energy demand.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Should furnish 60% of baseload to all grids.

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Friar_Pede 14 points ago +14 / -0

Global Warming was supposed to prevent this right?

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bootsy_two_scoops 12 points ago +13 / -1

At least Texas hasn’t banned natural gas. RIP NY and CA

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Bax101 11 points ago +11 / -0

My question is how come they were never installed with anti-ice features like aircraft engines have. Since they're basically massive wind turbines you would think that feature would've been implemented into its design.

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dldeuce 6 points ago +6 / -0

Designed by the same idiots who proposed the idea in the first place.

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magafren 9 points ago +9 / -0

This seems like bullshit because in Texas we have deregulated electricity and lots of businesses sign up for a program that gives them super low rates on commercial electricity in exchange for their agreement to shut down their power on emergency situations to balance the load on the grid

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dldeuce 4 points ago +4 / -0

and what percentage of commercial businesses are drawing their full load with covid and icy roads combined?

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Couchbeer69 5 points ago +5 / -0

Texas is pretty awesome. And coming from Alberta you might feel pretty comfortable. Even the suburbs here are still pretty conservative. There are a few suburbs that are tainted with reckless liberalism, but those generally are within close orbits of urban centers.

There's economic opportunity here. Oil (like Alberta) is volatile but much like Alberta, is a big industry. There's aerospace and tech. And if you're not equipped for hogar industries then real estate might be an avenue. Property is pretty liquid here. Also, there's shit tons of new construction here, all over the state. Residential, commercial, or roads. So that might be an option.

Come on down my Canadian friend. Don't bring any left leaning hacks with you.

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FreeNow 7 points ago +7 / -0

A lot of those old plants they demolished. After all you don't want to pay tax on an asset you aren't going to use. But you can build a new one in a few years for $2B.

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TexasPiper 5 points ago +5 / -0

Even if they weren’t demolished you don’t bring a mothballed plant online without some serious work.

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FreeNow 3 points ago +3 / -0

We have coal plants in the Midwest that get paid $500k per day to be ready to run.

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narvster 1 point ago +1 / -0

In the UK we're spending £328 million over 6 years just to clean up the quality of the energy coming from Wind and Solar. People get lost in the GWh etc but forget without inertia the energy off of a windfarm is quite likely to break your equipment as it's very janky.

I doubt they'll factor that into the "super low cost" of renewable energy.

https://www.current-news.co.uk/news/national-grid-eso-claims-world-first-approach-to-inertia-awarding-328m-in-contracts

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Skyrison 5 points ago +5 / -0

i cant STAND windmills. they look so fucking stupid and are a draconian era of energy failure!

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John_Miller__ 5 points ago +5 / -0

That will never happen under the Chinese Communist regime we live under

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Countess1066 5 points ago +6 / -1

My dad says they're what's actually causing all these weird storms. Changing the air currents

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befehlistbefehl 3 points ago +3 / -0

I wouldn't be surprised. This storm doesn't feel natural.

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dldeuce 5 points ago +5 / -0

Cold weather? Abbott was just interviewed live on local news. He blamed the problem on just "private" energy producers, not private wind energy producers or heavily regulated private energy producers in a heavily government manipulated market place. You know, in a Jedi mind trick moment. In that way fooling the simple minded liberals into believing that the state and federal governments had nothing to do with it.

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2016TrumpMAGA 4 points ago +4 / -0

Nuclear.

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Jarlason10 4 points ago +4 / -0

Or you know, use more nuclear.

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mnguy12000 4 points ago +4 / -0

Imagine if we continued safe nuclear power, our energy problems we be the least of our concerns

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Sporadica 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've worked on wind turbine projects in Alberta where it hits -40 in winter (fun fact, -40 is the same in celcius or farenheit). How the fuck are Texan wind turbines little bitches?

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

I'm thinking it must be the lubricant?

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Sporadica 3 points ago +3 / -0

Hmm I didn't suppose that, the wind turbines I've installed/recommended have all had motor block heaters powered by a solar panel on top of the necell or batteries with stored energy from the turbines. Since it gets to -40 here regularly I just install them with heaters by default.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

I've often thought of learning to service these things. Tons of em throughout WI and you always see big chunks of em down. There's demand.

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Sporadica 2 points ago +2 / -0

One thing I dislike is the stupid implementation of these turbines. Subsidizing them incentivizes people to put them in locations that wouldn't otherwise make sense. Alberta doesn't really subsidize wind so they're only built where economical. In some places, the USA being one who subsidize the installation they can go in areas that aren't windy but who cares if the gov't is paying half the costs.

One thing I dislike with this site is the automatic hatred of renewables, but people are understandably biased due to the fuck up of rolling them out in the past.

Wind is not the cure all, nor is solar, natural gas is great to replace coal but nuke and hydro are best for baseline power.

I did learn that in areas like the North Sea Germany and Denmark build the towers so tall they hit the headwinds, which then makes them as reliable as nuke or hydro or gas, because the headwinds blow ALL the time.

THAT is where you use wind power, and it becomes THE LOWEST cost of electricity, that being said, you don't use valuable farmland for solar or wind in places it only blows to where the turbine hits 20% capacity.

The pay is great for servicing wind turbines but I hate heights so I opted to sit in an office and design them with the rare visits. If you don't mind heights by all means do it.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

Thanks. Some people here are talking about how they go down permanently due to broken internals that are cost prohibitive to replace. Any truth to that idea?

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Sporadica 2 points ago +2 / -0

Not just the turbines but there are coal/gas plants apparently offline because they themselves aren't insulated.

Texas never gets this so it's understandable to not spend money insulating plants and substations and power lines for something that never would've thought to have happened. Texas grid wasn't built for sub 0 temps.

Wind turbines specifically you have to take out bonds that cover the cost of decomisioning. The metal scrap value is worth it without bonds but the fibreglass blades are otherwise garbage. But federal subsidies are only 10 years in the USA, so I've worked on turbines over 20 years old, they have a long life but sometimes it's cheaper to scrap them after 10 and build new so they reset their federal subsidies. Disgusting corporatism in my opinion.

Not sure what you mean by broker internals so I can't answer that sorry.

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 1 point ago +1 / -0

*broken.

Auto-correct strikes again. Someone else said that "broken internals" leaves these never working again but still spinning so that people don't see how many don't work.

Sounds like that's a CA only thing.

Why can't the blades be re-used on a new turbine?

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Shit___taco 2 points ago +2 / -0

It is not the oil, it is ice build up on turbines that cause them to be unbalanced. Texas doesn't have heaters on their turbines to deice them.

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cryptoa 3 points ago +4 / -1

Well maybe Texans shouldn't have voted for Trump. clearly they aren't Climate changing hard enough. And probably don't wear enough masks, masks protect us from Climate change right?

If Texas opened its borders, banned guns, voted Democrat, and didn't erect a coup de titties then their windmills would still be working.

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Ham_Sandwich77 3 points ago +4 / -1

Freezing in your home because the stupid wind turbines you put up to fight global warming filed?

There's some bitter irony here. 😂

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billDwahl 3 points ago +4 / -1

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peaking_power_plant

Peaker Power Plants.... Natural Gas... Cheap Efficient Power

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Pord 3 points ago +3 / -0

15 1/2 hours without power so far, still no estimate on when power will be back. This sucks

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Razorba1 3 points ago +4 / -1

They need 100 gallons of oil for lubricant

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Couchbeer69 3 points ago +3 / -0

AKSHUALLY this is desirable because now the bird population will have a day to repopulate since there's no wind turbine to run into.

Checkmate fossil fuels!

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CuomoisaMassMurderer 2 points ago +2 / -0

I don't think birds copulate at 7 degrees.

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Witchstone 3 points ago +3 / -0

I don't mind having the wind turbines, but if them being out of service means blackouts then we've clearly screwed up. A power grid with multiple sources is a secure grid.

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zerocooltx 3 points ago +4 / -1

can confirm. power has been out 4 to 5 times since 2 am last night.

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Guthy 3 points ago +4 / -1

We lost ours at 2 ish came back on like 40 min later for about 15-20 min and nothing since.

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thebaddyman 2 points ago +2 / -0

the real hazard in texas is a LOT of the locals in the cities dont know how to drive muuch less how to drive in the snow or ice.. thats gonna kill more than the freeze.

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CrackerSmurf2 3 points ago +3 / -0

You mean those things that caused half this countries wealth and ability to operate in winter time?

Get Covid Racist Bigot!

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MI_MAGA 3 points ago +4 / -1

How do you like your Global Warming now

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RussianLimbaugh 2 points ago +2 / -0

Upside-- There will be less mosquitoes & no-see-ums for those who make it to spring/summer, because those things won't be chopping up as many birds this winter.

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Wexit-Delecto 2 points ago +2 / -0

They're trying to make us all up in here Canada "freezing with no heat" with these God damned carbon taxes. Fuck off already!

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Will 2 points ago +2 / -0

I remember some mean orange guy saying "what do you do when there's no wind" and he was mocked for it. I guess we finally got our answer. We burn coal and oil.

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hunterforprison 2 points ago +2 / -0

Tear all those POS down and build a Nuclear Power Plant

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LtPatterson 2 points ago +2 / -0

I moved my investments from traditional energy to green when Biden took "office". The traditional are down 4%+ while the green is up that amount or significantly more. I hate doing it, but I'm gaming this shit like GME.

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befehlistbefehl 1 point ago +1 / -0

Then use the profits to buy a gas generator.

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DragonNRG 2 points ago +2 / -0

lets hook the proppellers all up to a bunch of stationary bikes and then the libs can all ride them to keep the proppellers going, i mean are they serious about green energy or not

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thebaddyman 2 points ago +2 / -0

gonna take u behind the woodshed

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Ch138 2 points ago +2 / -0

Centerpoint sent me an email, asking me to turn my thermostat to 60. Bitch, fuck you... That's cold.

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YouTouchMyTralala 2 points ago +2 / -0

That’s too logical for Pedocrats to understand.

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Jesse3000 2 points ago +2 / -0

So who's idea was this anyway? I'll bet that asshole is all nice and cozy tonight.