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Why you are warm right now (media.patriots.win) ⚠️ HIGH ENERGY⚠️
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thisisatestof2 47 points ago +47 / -0

Wut? CA has actually banned using natural gas in new construction, one of the most efficient ways to heat, cook, etc.

I don't consider myself a great cook, bur even I know electric stoves and ovens are garbage.

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MarcusAurelius 15 points ago +15 / -0

At first I was thinking that you were shitposting... But, I guess you are right.

At least the ban seems to be only San Francisco, not the entire state, but activists are working on it.

The 100% smooth brained play of this is that 47% of California's electrical generation is from Natural Gas. Even with Combined Cycle, you only get a 60% efficiency with natural gas... along with transmission losses, you'll end up with only ~50% of the energy actually available for thermal purposes at the residence, compared with 100% efficiency, when natural gas is used for thermal purposes.

Now, I'm actually a big fan of electric stoves, microwaves, tankless electrical heaters, etc... But, it's only when it's paired with something like nuclear, hydro, or a renewable behind it. But, banning natural gas for thermal purposes is... just super dumb.

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DZP1 6 points ago +6 / -0

In SF, Berkeley, San Jose, other places, the liberals successfully banned gas.. I view it as Agenda 2030-driven. In Sunnyvale they are replacing old single story dwellings with 7 story rabbit hutch apartments for the proles, all electric, no gas, no yards, no real homes anymore. Sterile blocky monoliths.The idea is to jam people into cities densely. With more people, one needs to reduce carbon use, so they get rid of natural gas. In conjunction with this they banned gas engine vehicle sales starting 2030 for California. It occurs to me that Berkeley's U of Cal chem labs can no longer have Bunsen burners or the like. I am guessing they will need propane tanks in some labs.

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slangin_paint 4 points ago +4 / -0

Chemistry is a tool of the patriarchy. Science is hate.

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thisisatestof2 5 points ago +5 / -0

No one said libs are smart. They will burn nat gas and loose 50% of the energy burned to run a hot water heater or furnace instead of using a 90% or higher efficient furnace or instant hot water heater.

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DrSonicScream 0 points ago +8 / -8

I've used electric stove and convection/microwave for 40 years, they are fine

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trailerman168233 12 points ago +12 / -0

have saw with chain on it. me call it chainsaw!

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jarasan 1 point ago +1 / -0

Got me a Mac10-10 and a new fangled Ryobi with a brake and primer and self lubing the Ryobi is fast but the Mac is a beast.

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RichardNoggin 10 points ago +10 / -0

Fine isn't great. Gas is where it's at

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45454545 8 points ago +8 / -0

Electric stove is fine for mac and cheese. Anything beyond that, you want gas.

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wilstjb 4 points ago +5 / -1

ya wants an gas top and electric oven. daz it

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visorak 2 points ago +7 / -5

Do you have an actual reason why or just elitism? I've never used a gas stove personally, tbh.

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45454545 7 points ago +7 / -0

Heat control, to put it simply. There's a reason every single commercial kitchen uses gas.

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OPsMom 5 points ago +5 / -0

More efficient, better BTU rating, cheaper, and hard faster. Also gas works in a power outage. Many advantages over electricity.

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fegeline 2 points ago +3 / -1

There are many versions these days, first it's the metal plate version everyone knows, this is slow and the plate will stay hot for very long afterwards. Ceramic hob is basically the same principle but heats up and cools down faster. Then there's induction which only works with specific types of frying pans and saucepans.

I'm an average chef, not good not terrible but have never failed simply because of an electric stove. Been cooking on all types of electric and gas stoves and there's not much difference other than the time it takes to reach optimal temperature. The secret is basically to let the pan get hot enough before adding the food, otherwise the food gets dry and taste bad.

Now, the real reason you want gas. Is because it's easy to store in a tank outside of your house, this way you can keep cooking even after the government says your a "domestic terrorist" and shuts your power off.

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thisisatestof2 4 points ago +4 / -0

I will agree that electric stoves do work, I much prefer the instant changes to heat when cooking on a gas stove. That, and you can light a gas stove with a match and be able to use the burners in a power outage is invaluable.

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