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CuomoisaMassMurderer 7 points ago +7 / -0

Disagree about "average person" and logic. It just ain't that damned hard. The problem is school became designed to make people not think.

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disgruntled_patriot 7 points ago +7 / -0

Precisely. The average sane, level headed person intuitively knows the meaning of words as intended.

It's only insane, unhinged, agenda driven zealots who make mental gymnastics out of the perfectly understandable. Because their minds aren't grounded in reality, they have to twist reality to fit their warped misunderstanding of it.

Now, law should be written precisely so that manipulative hacks can't make pleas on technicalities, or just so that there aren't reasonable disagreements stemming from imprecise language.

But the law is undoubtedly written to be confusing. It's not the legalese per se, it's the sheer massive network of laws on the books, many of which are purposefully vague so as the leave them open to interpretation and specifically designed to contradict each other. All so lawyers can wage legal warfare upon law abiding citizens and let their pet crooks off scott free.

It's not the language that requires simplification. The books just need to be revised. i.e.: heavily truncated.

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randomusers239874 3 points ago +3 / -0

Sorry man, really disagree. "Logic" as understood by lay people is not what I'm talking about, and in fact, is usually not logical at all. It's the same with "common sense", there is no such thing, it's just something people made up to justify their opinion. Logic and mathematics are equivalent to each other, and you need to have a mathematically inclined brain to really grasp it. And I don't mean the ability to do algebra or compute, I mean the ability to write mathematical proofs and such. That ability is somewhat rare amongst the general population. Laws (should be) written and analyzed in the same way mathematical proofs are, which is why the language needs to be complex; simple language has too many holes that can be argued about.

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FetchQuestTroll 1 point ago +1 / -0

Just want to chime in and say how much I despise the "common sense" argument/plea/packaging. It's a shaming mechanism designed to discourage asking "why?" Why? It's just common sense! Now shut up and do what we told you to.

As for your law/math comparison, they're coming after mathematics, as well.

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randomusers239874 1 point ago +1 / -0

Yeah, I know, thankfully it's been more resistant since the field is mostly spergs, but they can only last so long lol.