If he said that, it only validates what I have come to understand, they really never fully understood their enemy or how they operate and have always operated. They PRECISELY needed to "go through all of this circus just to kill us" … they needed the veneer or authority and the appeal to process. It is extremely important for the very types that control us today as they controlled us back then, they ensnare us in the claim of process having inherent legitimacy because it is methodical and usually complicated and therefore it placates people. It's both lie and a club when they use process to drain energy out of efforts … e.g., want to oppose the inherent and obvious violation of the constitution … well, go through the court system that will try to knee cap you at every level and then when you get to the SCOTUS you will be dismissed just because they are all corrupted. Or another example "vote the change you want to see" … in a clearly rigged system, even simply by importing foreign nationals to dilute American votes by 1.5 million EVERY … SINGLE … YEAR or 6 million every single presidential election.
There was an interesting anecdote from Gulag Archipelago about the quarter of a million trials and prosecutions in West Germany of Nazis yet there were no trials or prosecution of Nazis in East Germany - of course the German armies disappeared into Siberia - I think Solzhenitsyn implied that the Soviets had that Nazi state essentially continue to exist in East Germany because all the government workers were never prosecuted - I’m not sure but it’s interesting
Stalin used communists predominantly ANTIFA to create the police state in Eastern Germany. Erich Mielke the head of the STASI was actually a member of ANTIFA who fled NAZI Germany to the Soviet Union following the kidnap and murder of two police officers. Sound familiar? They even called on of the officers they murdered pig face.
Goring was an absolute beast in a historical sense.
Way, way more complex than the average knowledgeable American thinks:
-Step father was a wealthy Jewish man. Banging his Mom while his dad was doing bureaucratic shit overseas.
-Ran away as a pre-teen.
-Became mountain climber.
-WW1 fighter ace severely wounded. Rehabilitated.
-Commanded the Flying Circus when Richthofen died WW1.
-Was the man who introduced the Swastika to the German party.
-Literally was in pole position to lead the party prior to Beerhall Putsch.
-Started the anti-communist (more appropriately anti-Bolshevik) witch hunt via Reichstag fire. Reportedly later saying, "The only one who really knows about the Reichstag is I, because I set it on fire!"
-Rises to 2nd in command in the country.
-Excommunicated and stripped by Hitler at the end.
A very, very interesting man of history.
Perhaps his most telling quote:
Do you think I give that much of a damn about my lousy life? — For myself, I don't give a damn if I get executed, or drown, or crash in a plane, or drink myself to death! — But there is still a matter of honor in this life! — Assassination attempt on Hitler! — Ugh! — Gott im Himmel!! I could have sunk through the floor! And do you think I would have handed Himmler over to the enemy, guilty as he was? Dammit, I would have liquidated the bastard myself!
But these also add a bit of context to the man himself.
To me there are two Hitlers: one who existed until the end of the French war; the other begins with the Russian campaign. In the beginning he was genial and pleasant. He would have extraordinary willpower and unheard-of influence on people. The important thing to remember is that the first Hitler, the man who I knew until the end of the French war, had much charm and goodwill. He was always frank. The second Hitler, who existed from the beginning of the Russian campaign until his suicide, was always suspicious, easily upset, and tense. He was distrustful to an extreme degree.
I am a man who is basically opposed to atrocities or ungentlemanly actions. In 1934, I promulgated a law against vivisection. You can see, therefore, that if I disapprove of the experimentation on animals, how could I possibly be in favor of torturing humans? The prosecution says that I had something to do with the freezing experiments which were performed in the concentration camps under the auspices of the air force. That is pure nonsense! I was much too busy to know about these medical experiments, and if anybody had asked me, I would have disapproved violently. It must have been Himmler who thought up these stupid experiments, although I think he shirked his responsibility by committing suicide. I am not too unhappy about it because I would not particularly enjoy sitting on the same bench with him. The same is true of that drunken Robert Ley, who did us a favor by hanging himself before the trial started. He was not going to be any advantage for us defendants when he took the stand.
Perhaps my favorite:
I think that women are wonderful but I've never met one yet who didn't show more feeling than logic
He was also a junkie who got addicted to morphine after getting hooked on the pain medication, was notorious for embezzling state funds (money and assets the German state stole from East Euro and jewish civilians) for his own lavish lifestyle, and had a pet lion. When he learned that Hitler planned to kill himself, he actually had the balls to send Hitler a letter proclaiming him the next guy in charge of the Reich after he did it lol.
He had the ball, not the balls. Goering was shot in the groin during the failed Beer Hall Putsch and that began his lifelong morphine addiction. My grandfather told me about a wartime allied jingle, but they got the names all mixed up. 😂
Trust me I hate the Nazis, but Nuremberg was a complete joke. We found Admiral Karl Doenitz guilty of unrestricted submarine warfare, but we decided not to actually punish him for it because some one remembered that the US has carried out unrestricted submarine warfare also, against the Japanese.
Don't cuck yourself like that. There is no reason to declare your compulsory disavowal of "Nazis", but yes, it was an utter charade. EVERYTHING the system tells you is the truth, you can be sure of is not at all the truth even if it's 80% truth by volume, while poisoned in the most critical ways.
Another good example that has stood out to me over time; at Mt. Vernon, George Washington's home, the museum tells visitors that the continental congress/founders "therefore declared that the people would elect the president" … when reality is that that is not actually what they wanted or even what the Constitution says. The President is supposed to be elected by electors chosen by the state house legislatures, i.e., indirect voting by the people who elect the representatives who elect/choose the electors.
This whole let people elect the president business is pure fiction and isn't even exactly how it is done today, which is precisely why the Democrats want to permanently remove the elector clause from the core of the Constitution. Even today, it is not actually the people who elect the President, the state electors just shirk their duty to choose the electors for the President by simply deferring to the "popular vote" to determine the electors and thereby totally disenfranchising the rural districts and empowering urban centers … PRECISELY THE PURPOSE.
It really is. Which is also why the same people perverted the USA and the Constitution with "democracy" even though the word democracy does not even show up a single time in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. Go ahead, check. Not a single time. Because it wasn't a "democracy". Democracy is how the ruling tribe from the middle east manipulates the masses and makes the slaves think they have a say through "voting" while importing 6 million foreigners that dilute American's vote by 6 million every single presidential election in a compounding manner until you have no say in your own country but voting blocks of, e..g, somalis control the government "whites" are deracinated and told they are "individuals" while everyone else is a group.
I feel I have to say I hate Nazis because 90% of Americans would immediately think I was a Nazi sympathizer just for having problems with Nuremberg. Just habit I guess.
I believe these sham trials were the precursor to all the problems we're dealing with today. Here's stock footage of German Nazi industrial war criminals celebrating their pardon from the US High Commissioner.
Fair enough. That is probably true in most European communities after 70+ years of propaganda that has made people's minds into "Is this Nazis" meme mush.
At some point you really have to just accept your fate and not denigrate yourself by trying to resist an inevitable fate. Better yet, realize when things are such that you simply do not let yourself be caught alive.
Funny fact, that whole trial was also a kangaroo court fabrication that had outcomes predetermined.
I forget the exact quote now, but Goring said something like, "There was really no need to go through all of this circus just to kill us"
If he said that, it only validates what I have come to understand, they really never fully understood their enemy or how they operate and have always operated. They PRECISELY needed to "go through all of this circus just to kill us" … they needed the veneer or authority and the appeal to process. It is extremely important for the very types that control us today as they controlled us back then, they ensnare us in the claim of process having inherent legitimacy because it is methodical and usually complicated and therefore it placates people. It's both lie and a club when they use process to drain energy out of efforts … e.g., want to oppose the inherent and obvious violation of the constitution … well, go through the court system that will try to knee cap you at every level and then when you get to the SCOTUS you will be dismissed just because they are all corrupted. Or another example "vote the change you want to see" … in a clearly rigged system, even simply by importing foreign nationals to dilute American votes by 1.5 million EVERY … SINGLE … YEAR or 6 million every single presidential election.
There was an interesting anecdote from Gulag Archipelago about the quarter of a million trials and prosecutions in West Germany of Nazis yet there were no trials or prosecution of Nazis in East Germany - of course the German armies disappeared into Siberia - I think Solzhenitsyn implied that the Soviets had that Nazi state essentially continue to exist in East Germany because all the government workers were never prosecuted - I’m not sure but it’s interesting
Stalin used communists predominantly ANTIFA to create the police state in Eastern Germany. Erich Mielke the head of the STASI was actually a member of ANTIFA who fled NAZI Germany to the Soviet Union following the kidnap and murder of two police officers. Sound familiar? They even called on of the officers they murdered pig face.
East German secret police files highlight role of ex-Nazis in post-war Germany
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/08/stas-a23.html
Book Claims Stasi Employed Nazis as Spies
https://www.dw.com/en/book-claims-stasi-employed-nazis-as-spies/a-1760980
Goring was an absolute beast in a historical sense. Way, way more complex than the average knowledgeable American thinks:
-Step father was a wealthy Jewish man. Banging his Mom while his dad was doing bureaucratic shit overseas.
-Ran away as a pre-teen.
-Became mountain climber.
-WW1 fighter ace severely wounded. Rehabilitated.
-Commanded the Flying Circus when Richthofen died WW1.
-Was the man who introduced the Swastika to the German party.
-Literally was in pole position to lead the party prior to Beerhall Putsch.
-Started the anti-communist (more appropriately anti-Bolshevik) witch hunt via Reichstag fire. Reportedly later saying, "The only one who really knows about the Reichstag is I, because I set it on fire!"
-Rises to 2nd in command in the country.
-Excommunicated and stripped by Hitler at the end.
A very, very interesting man of history.
Perhaps his most telling quote:
Do you think I give that much of a damn about my lousy life? — For myself, I don't give a damn if I get executed, or drown, or crash in a plane, or drink myself to death! — But there is still a matter of honor in this life! — Assassination attempt on Hitler! — Ugh! — Gott im Himmel!! I could have sunk through the floor! And do you think I would have handed Himmler over to the enemy, guilty as he was? Dammit, I would have liquidated the bastard myself!
But these also add a bit of context to the man himself.
To me there are two Hitlers: one who existed until the end of the French war; the other begins with the Russian campaign. In the beginning he was genial and pleasant. He would have extraordinary willpower and unheard-of influence on people. The important thing to remember is that the first Hitler, the man who I knew until the end of the French war, had much charm and goodwill. He was always frank. The second Hitler, who existed from the beginning of the Russian campaign until his suicide, was always suspicious, easily upset, and tense. He was distrustful to an extreme degree.
I am a man who is basically opposed to atrocities or ungentlemanly actions. In 1934, I promulgated a law against vivisection. You can see, therefore, that if I disapprove of the experimentation on animals, how could I possibly be in favor of torturing humans? The prosecution says that I had something to do with the freezing experiments which were performed in the concentration camps under the auspices of the air force. That is pure nonsense! I was much too busy to know about these medical experiments, and if anybody had asked me, I would have disapproved violently. It must have been Himmler who thought up these stupid experiments, although I think he shirked his responsibility by committing suicide. I am not too unhappy about it because I would not particularly enjoy sitting on the same bench with him. The same is true of that drunken Robert Ley, who did us a favor by hanging himself before the trial started. He was not going to be any advantage for us defendants when he took the stand.
Perhaps my favorite: I think that women are wonderful but I've never met one yet who didn't show more feeling than logic
He was also a junkie who got addicted to morphine after getting hooked on the pain medication, was notorious for embezzling state funds (money and assets the German state stole from East Euro and jewish civilians) for his own lavish lifestyle, and had a pet lion. When he learned that Hitler planned to kill himself, he actually had the balls to send Hitler a letter proclaiming him the next guy in charge of the Reich after he did it lol.
He had the ball, not the balls. Goering was shot in the groin during the failed Beer Hall Putsch and that began his lifelong morphine addiction. My grandfather told me about a wartime allied jingle, but they got the names all mixed up. 😂
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K9or6hhjmI&ab_channel=Zarema
Ya. I'm not saying he a good guy lol.
Just that he was an incredibly interesting figure.
I don't know if it's true, but Hitler once said of Goring: "Goring has the constitution of a pig. Because pigs will eat their own."
Trust me I hate the Nazis, but Nuremberg was a complete joke. We found Admiral Karl Doenitz guilty of unrestricted submarine warfare, but we decided not to actually punish him for it because some one remembered that the US has carried out unrestricted submarine warfare also, against the Japanese.
Don't cuck yourself like that. There is no reason to declare your compulsory disavowal of "Nazis", but yes, it was an utter charade. EVERYTHING the system tells you is the truth, you can be sure of is not at all the truth even if it's 80% truth by volume, while poisoned in the most critical ways.
Another good example that has stood out to me over time; at Mt. Vernon, George Washington's home, the museum tells visitors that the continental congress/founders "therefore declared that the people would elect the president" … when reality is that that is not actually what they wanted or even what the Constitution says. The President is supposed to be elected by electors chosen by the state house legislatures, i.e., indirect voting by the people who elect the representatives who elect/choose the electors.
This whole let people elect the president business is pure fiction and isn't even exactly how it is done today, which is precisely why the Democrats want to permanently remove the elector clause from the core of the Constitution. Even today, it is not actually the people who elect the President, the state electors just shirk their duty to choose the electors for the President by simply deferring to the "popular vote" to determine the electors and thereby totally disenfranchising the rural districts and empowering urban centers … PRECISELY THE PURPOSE.
Democracy is Communism in drag
It really is. Which is also why the same people perverted the USA and the Constitution with "democracy" even though the word democracy does not even show up a single time in either the Declaration of Independence or the Constitution. Go ahead, check. Not a single time. Because it wasn't a "democracy". Democracy is how the ruling tribe from the middle east manipulates the masses and makes the slaves think they have a say through "voting" while importing 6 million foreigners that dilute American's vote by 6 million every single presidential election in a compounding manner until you have no say in your own country but voting blocks of, e..g, somalis control the government "whites" are deracinated and told they are "individuals" while everyone else is a group.
I feel I have to say I hate Nazis because 90% of Americans would immediately think I was a Nazi sympathizer just for having problems with Nuremberg. Just habit I guess.
I believe these sham trials were the precursor to all the problems we're dealing with today. Here's stock footage of German Nazi industrial war criminals celebrating their pardon from the US High Commissioner.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39w8rVPDRI8&ab_channel=BritishPath%C3%A9
Fair enough. That is probably true in most European communities after 70+ years of propaganda that has made people's minds into "Is this Nazis" meme mush.
True.
There's books written about the torture endured to get people to 'confess' to prewritten crimes. Can't stray from the narrative!
At some point you really have to just accept your fate and not denigrate yourself by trying to resist an inevitable fate. Better yet, realize when things are such that you simply do not let yourself be caught alive.