When members of the military are dishonorably discharged, Vet Verify explains, they lose all veterans' benefits, and are forbidden from owning a firearm, working for the government and taking out bank loans. Often, they also lose the right to vote and accept federal assistance as a civilian.
Just looked it up. That's fucked up, and yet ANOTHER reason why I never enlisted.
They don't care about you, and I ain't bleeding for a paycheck or some Ivy League shit stain!
Because you surrender your personhood when you enlist!
You're no longer a man, you're a tool. A "human asset", to use their language.
The VA was "re-activating" vets between their 50s and 80s under Obama to avoid paying for their healthcare and to keep their families from suing. You can't sue for the negligent death of an "active duty" vet who needs major surgery. Another reason why I never enlisted.
Imagine being "re-activated" in your 60s by a bureaucrat who just wants to fuck with you or that doesn't want to pay out benefits?
You can download a LOT of field manuals and survival guides yourself online. I'm sure there's also a local hunting or outdoors association that would happily take on a newbie to learn practical bushcraft & navigation. First Aid training can be picked up anywhere. Weapons handling and marksmanship is best learned at a gun club. If you're training for the Zombie Apocalypse, your best option is to obtain one of the most popular long arms for your area (not the best, the most popular - ammo and spare parts are critical), and train with it.
You can also find your local militia for practical experience. This is your entry point for training in urban warfare, if that's your jam. Over the last 10 years or so the West has been training their police in urban warfare to engage Active Armed Offenders, plus a lot of battlefield experience from the sand pit is out there, so the pool of men with that knowledge is much larger than it was in the past.
I did five years in the equivalent of the NG; they train you for your corps, not much else. While I was able to access a lot of field time, and enjoyed it for the most part, I can honestly say that my time in my early twenties would've been better spent learning a useful life trade, like construction.
I'd only enlist to get the training, then do whatever it took to get promptly kicked out!
I'm not a pension whore and taxation is theft, but I wouldn't mind training.
DH discharges are life ruining
Just looked it up. That's fucked up, and yet ANOTHER reason why I never enlisted.
They don't care about you, and I ain't bleeding for a paycheck or some Ivy League shit stain!
Years ago a family friend was a union organizer in the 1950's.
He was interviewed by the FBI, they decided he was a "problem" stripped him of his Army Honorable Discharge.
Spent the rest of his life having to deal with what that did to him.
... like I said, no better than a street gang!
How can civilian gov employees do that, let alone without a trial?
HOW THE FLYING FUCK IS THAT LEGAL#
Because you surrender your personhood when you enlist!
You're no longer a man, you're a tool. A "human asset", to use their language.
The VA was "re-activating" vets between their 50s and 80s under Obama to avoid paying for their healthcare and to keep their families from suing. You can't sue for the negligent death of an "active duty" vet who needs major surgery. Another reason why I never enlisted.
Imagine being "re-activated" in your 60s by a bureaucrat who just wants to fuck with you or that doesn't want to pay out benefits?
Fuck that!
Training in what?
Whatever the "basics" are, I guess. 🤷♂️
You can download a LOT of field manuals and survival guides yourself online. I'm sure there's also a local hunting or outdoors association that would happily take on a newbie to learn practical bushcraft & navigation. First Aid training can be picked up anywhere. Weapons handling and marksmanship is best learned at a gun club. If you're training for the Zombie Apocalypse, your best option is to obtain one of the most popular long arms for your area (not the best, the most popular - ammo and spare parts are critical), and train with it.
You can also find your local militia for practical experience. This is your entry point for training in urban warfare, if that's your jam. Over the last 10 years or so the West has been training their police in urban warfare to engage Active Armed Offenders, plus a lot of battlefield experience from the sand pit is out there, so the pool of men with that knowledge is much larger than it was in the past.
I did five years in the equivalent of the NG; they train you for your corps, not much else. While I was able to access a lot of field time, and enjoyed it for the most part, I can honestly say that my time in my early twenties would've been better spent learning a useful life trade, like construction.