The last blackout we had was at least five hours long. Meanwhile, upperclass neighborhoods in DFW continue to have power uninterrupted. You do the math.
Not surprising at all. We had that blackout back in the early 2000s in the NE for almost a week, people went fucking crazy, shit literally almost collapsed lol. Now, Californians cheer em on.
Back in'07 me and a buddy lived near Independence Iowa, in an old country house. That winter an ice storm took out all the power lines and we lost electricity. We made it three days before we each went to our parent's houses, where they had power. It took them almost two weeks to fix the lines. Not sure what we would have done if we didn't have family to stay with.
A friend took a motorcycle trip through part of the area that had been hit and shared a bunch of pictures of all the flattened cornfields and downed trees. The mainstream media hadn't said a peep about it. I didn't even know what a 'derecho' was until he posted the pictures.
Electric company-" wait what you want to not pay this month but still have powr?! Hahahahshshhs! Oh by the way we're going to "control outage," you but make sure you keep paying ok."
Yeah, I've been out 26 hours now. If my energy company tries to charge me for the fucking $9,000 per MWh that it hit this morning while I've been out, I'm going to go ballistic. Fuck this.
They cut the power in CA because the state was trying to shift responsibility for the wildfires from the state's poor forest management to the power companies. So power companies understandably decided to to take the liability of being blamed for burning the state down whenever it gets hot, dry, and windy.
The black out we had was on the entire west coast. It we had weather like Texas right now back than it would of killed a bunch of people. But, it was the middle of summer so no airconditioning.
The power going out means people WILL die as a direct result. That is true. Please people if you're sensitive to elements because your health or whatever is compromised have a plan. No matter where you are in life just try and plan and expect thigs like this to happen.
I'm part of a co-op here in north central Florida: Sumter Electric Cooperative, SECO. They are excellent! And they let it be known on a regular basis they they are beholden only to their customers, as well as employees and shareholders, all who have to be customers of SECO.
Really hoping Texans are based enough to take action against this. And I hope that these companies are liable for their failures. I'd hope that when they were awarded contracts they made promises against this happening.
Oh there will be action taken, the issue will be in which direction. The dems and the media are already out in force trying to protect their precious wind turbines.
Exactly. They’re actually blaming—wait for it—natural gas. What?! Fucking idiots. The only issue we’re having with natural,gas is them not having electric companies use the fucktons of natural gas we have in Texas.
Florida is still using dominion systems, even after the fallout of the election. I wonder why things were so close, and why our amendments went the way that they did?
My house at 2 pm CST was 38 degrees...in my house....not outside...The water is shut off through out the town......since this morning...burst pipes..."We are working on it." Always a good idea to be prepared...except I did not plan well enough...generator is up next on the plan...people in town did not prepare...I had a full tank of gas ...lines up the wazooo at HEB this afternoon they opened at noon...really crazy one local place in town was open but his lights were down dim..I only stopped because of all the pick up trucks parked on the street...really infuriating...this rolling. black out...WTF
For those who can’t afford a generator or don’t have enough weather events to justify the cost of one a portable propane powered heater may help next time.
My plan for times like this is portable heater, lanterns that recharge as well as take batteries (have stocked up) and firewood. We can be warm, see at night, and can heat food outside over the fire pit. So far, never been without power for more than a day but the ice storm heading our way may challenge that record!
I had the misfortune of living in the shit hole otherwise known as Queens in 2006 or 2007 and it got hot enough to melt underground electric cables. Power was out for 13 days in 100 degree heat. The typical piss smell takes on a whole nother level under those conditions
This happens every few years. This is nothing new at all. Why are people so retarded, if they just kept regular power plants or even built modern nuclear plants (which Northern and Western Texas are perfect for) they wouldn't be having this issue. So now people are going to die.8
If this happened when Trump was president he would be blamed.
I don't think it's Biden's fault but I certainly think we should blame him. Dude was playing Mario Kart instead of saving Texas? Where the fuck are his priorities
Yes we should blame him. Give him hell like they did to Trump. This is propaganda warfare and all democrats need to be blamed for anything bad that happens.
It’s technically all their fault. They’re all about government regulation and pushing this unnatural “green” energy bullshit subsidizing the natural, reliable energy producers out of business.
Federal subsidies and the gradual communist invasion? Obama shut down thousands of coal plants, Trump simply stopped more shutdowns. When coal plants are forced to shut down and nuclear is evil all that’s left is subsidized bullshit.
I don't understand how Obama forced texas to shut down their coal plants? Texas isn't part of the grid so they don't have to follow federal regulations.
Nuclear power is like the Donald Trump of energy generation. Revolutionary and ready to change the world, but hated by almost everyone. Nuclear energy is literally Hitler for a lot of people
Doesn't seem reasonable to blame the wind farms though. Isn't part of the inherent problem with wind power that you need a backup source of power for when the wind ain't blowin?
It’s a double edge sword. Short term, give him issues to “solve”, then get some meme material from his abysmal solution to solve “climate change”. Then he enacts it and we are all fucked. Never let a crisis go to waste
Because modern life in America has 'advanced' to the point you can live your life in complete ignorance of everything around you and still function. People have fogotten what it is like to actually suffer. Hell even our 'poor' live better lives than the well to do in other nations. Can't remember the last time I saw a generational welfare recipient who wasn't well fed with nice clothes and a cellphone and a comfy government supplied apartment unless they were a drug addict or mentally ill and homeless but even then they still get cellphones and welfare if they choose.
What is that old saying? Bad times make strong men who bring good times which makes weak men who bring the bad times. Well we are at the point the weak men are the most populous and you can see the result. So prepare for some real bad times to wake the population back up. Our nation has been at this point before and gotten past it stronger than ever and we will do it yet again.
Tired of fat black bitches talking about privilege's and oppression. They tell me they are fat becaue they can't get access to food. Yeah that's why your 400 lbs bitch lol.
lol. In Portland they can stock up on orange soda and dump most of it in a storm drain and turn the bottles in for cash. I've seen that going on at a Safeway there. From the size of the tar pit it looked pretty common.
Oh the great depression is one. The 60's and the cold war are another though we didn't go far enough to stamp out the commies and they have come back stronger than ever. The civil war seems to come to mind for some reason or another. Burning of the white house by angry british pissed we got away from them and the choking of our sea trade and prosperity by blockades and conscription of any Americans they caught. There are many other stumbling points but not quite as major but still meaningful.
If you're being honest, this is black pill territory. The instances listed below occurred when people still saw themselves and each other as Americans and were proud of it. Those days are dwindling if not already over. Our tribe is being ripped apart from the inside out.
During the civil war the country was literally and politically divided. Both sides considered themselves proud Americans, thought the other side tyrants or traitors. The war itself is what we think of, but this was an awful, ongoing situation for decades before the shooting started.
Interesting to remember that the north and south remained ay great enmity for a hundred years. I well remember as a kid in the early 60s how the southern states voted as a block (the blue dog democrats) and were very hostile to "yankees" passing through. They taught their kids a mythology of honor v tyranny that lasted long after the last vet had died.
Similarly, look into The Fourth Turning theory. Bannon did a documentary on this, Generation Zero....been a while since I watched it, but I don't recall white pills.
And why they don't teach it anymore because if the average person had a good grasp of history then the current leadership wouldn't be getting away with what they are doing.
I've been in TX for 6 years and have never had this happen. A 1 hour rolling blackout maybe, but I've been without power for 10 hours now. 20 out of 24 hours of the last two days with no electricity.
Controlled outages is the only option until power generation can meet demand. If demand exceeds generation then there's risk of more uncontrolled outages when distribution breakers start tripping. Or the electrical utility could tie in generators which feed a few homes but obviously that requires a ton of generators, workers, and time.
Yep. I worked in energy for years, power cos. have a legal responsibility to provide power. Its not an option. In return they get tax breaks, price support, etc. If they fail they should lose their license and be replaced by competitors. Its a good system thats worked for 100 years until federal "green" mandate interference.
I know...and agree. I was just adding my $0.02 since I'm sure some people are wondering why it takes a while to restore power (when I'm restoring power people always ask "How long's it going to take?" or "What's taking so long?"
The main reason is it's ~20 degrees lower than the typical lowest low during the year. Normally 15-25 and it's -2 during the night the last 2 nights. Stupid people running their AC at 65+ when their AC can't heat their house that many degrees above the outside temp so it just runs constantly and never stops. Also many electric companies charge a flat rate per KWH used, and so demand sky rockets but the price does not so people keep using electricity they don't need when others desperately need it. Also electric companies are never held responsible for not being able to deliver electricity, at least as far as I know, so there's no incentive for them to plan for extreme demand. They can just shut of your electric even though you have a contract and there's no repercussions afaik.
It's not full blow socialism, but maybe a little. Also maybe a little of corrupt capitalism. Or it might just be people entering in to stupid contracts. Why would you enter into a contract with a company that can fail to deliver the product you need with no consequences? I don't know much about the legal aspect of how electric delivery is handled but someone who does could probably give more info.
That's not how the relationship between electricity price and demand works. If your electricity price skyrockets it takes about three billing cycles before households say, hmm, maybe we should consider unplugging the toaster when we're not using it, see if that helps, etc. The elasticity doesn't accommodate special time-sensitive circumstances; it would merely be gouging.
Not sure what you mean. Texas has a wholesale electric price that updates every 5 minutes and there are plans you can use that you pay wholesale price at the time + delivery instead of a flat rate. Normally it is around 2 cents a kWh plus 3.92 cents delivery per kWh, but it shot up to over $9 per kWh because demand was so high. That could easily costs you hundreds of dollars to run your HVAC system for an hour. Luckily I saw this coming because I was using Griddy for a while and was able to switch to a plan that charged only 7.5 cents per kWh. Next day that company removed that plan and switched to a 15cents per kWh plan.
Yeah, being on a moment-to-moment plan like Griddy sounds great until you realize it's a lot like shorting stocks, it has infinite downside. You're not going to learn how much the price has shot up for the last 5 minutes until you've already used it.
There are state public utilities commissions in every state that give certain advantages to utilities in exchage for steady production. Extreme cold is not an excuse - they hit 100 year lows today but they have to be prepared for 500 year lows. This is doable with fossill fuels because they can be physically stockpiled in the offseason at lower prices. I dont know to what extent wind and solar can be efficiently stored.
Energy is the post heavily regulated industry in the U.S. They dont have the option of faoling. Contact state PUCOs and tear into them. Hold them accountable.
I thought you were going in a totally different direction.
Yes, this is definitely crony capitalism and overregulation.
The power companies should have sent out a notice to all customers on Friday that electricity was going to be scarce and therefore the price would triple for the next week. That would have gotten people to conserve and it would have encouraged the power company to buy fuel at inflated rates rather than just sustain blackouts.
Dark winter refers to experimenting on the population with biological warfare. They just increased vaccine distribution 50% over when the usurper got installed.
FEMA never helps Texas. FEMA can fuck the hell off! We can take care of ourselves! We'd rather be cold for a few days, than sacrifice our rights and freedom to FEMA's ever encroaching "benevolence"!
They also told them to make preparations. With no notice whatsoever. Because they couldn't look at the weather forecast and know that colder weather means people are going to want to turn on heat?
Cracked is not enough as carbon monoxide doesn't sink, it mixes with the air of the room. Best to open the door entirely or pull outside to be extra safe.
I know folks who've been without power for 2 days.... yet auto dealerships all around the area have EVERY SINGLE LIGHT on all night long despite being closed for business.
Been without power for 26 hours. And that statement is 100% how I know the "lockdowns" were bullshit.
People are at real risk of dying from exposure this week, and yet power is straight being wasted..... but no orders from the governor, or mayors to common sense shit like that.
We had no electricity for 40+ hours. I finally went and sat in my car to warm up, decided to drive around. Every commercial building was lit up, and most had absolutely no reason to be open during this.
I'm about an hour South of you and just got power back on after about 40 hours. Pipes all froze. Thawed out briefly to flood everything. It's pretty freaking bad in my area.
My brother just had a pipe burst. I’m waiting a couple of days before turning the water back on. Still have cast iron pipes. My city just sent out a boil drinking water alert because pressure has dropped below safe levels.
I live in Burleson. I had no power Friday, Saturday, and Sunday but I have power now. If anyone needs a generator I have one. Just a small one though 3500/4350 watts.
Speaking as a Canadian, there's a reason there isn't a homelessness problem up here like California's, and it isn't our healthcare or social plans. If you haven't ever seen a frozen corpse, you don't work within a city, that's for sure. All the major cities have departments who need to pick up the frozen dead on the regular. And it isn't like those homeless are transplants from Cali, they're also Canadians, and know how to deal with the cold. The knowledge doesn't change their life expectancy from "next February", though.
Now, these people DO have homes, and given A/C is a thing, I imagine they're insulated homes which would help, but if they aren't, then yeah, gonna have a few not waking up if they're dumb about it. But I think blackouts will not kill from cold so much as from key electronics: People who have at-home medical equipment, in example.
If only we had this technology to take say, a heat producing radioactive element, use it to create steam and run a turbine. They can run 24/7/365 and don't emit any eeeevil Co2.
Ive had 3 hours total since 7:30 am yesterday..its now 4 pm. 32 hours. Everyone I have talked to in Dallas is fine. No outages. Blue areas fine...red areas..not so much. Not trying to be political..but this is more than just weather. I think ther is a serious effort to crush conservative Texas. Just saying.
The spirit of resistance to government is so valuable on certain occasions, that I wish it to be always kept alive. It will often be exercised when wrong but better so than not to be exercised at all. I like a little rebellion now and then. It is like a storm in the atmosphere.
Fuck ERCOT for their incompetence and the Texas legislature for not enacting legislation imposing penalties on utilities that did not follow recommendations after the last winter storm fubar.
How much you fuckers want to bet this is globalist sabotage on one of the countries biggest independent grid systems? Either by RINOs or Dem operatives, take your pick. The weather is obviously key factor, but it seems too widespread than what power outages should've happened in record conditions.
You'll know when you see Biden, media, Dems, social media ass blasting to the public that this is solely Abbott and Republicans fault for wanting to be independent from the Feds, yet another glorious NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE.
Can this all actually be attributed to the Potato In Chief? I have never seen shit so bad. It's not like it doesn't get cold in the United States in FEBRUARY!!
Absolutely has something to do with the shitty response. I had to jump through my own asshole to get power hooked up to a new business because of Covid and it's a fucking power pole outside in the woods with no people.
These temps are actual "historic" lows for February in the areas most affected. We do not set up our systems to handle freak weather events that occur once every 100 years.
CCP buys into the grid. CCP has the Beijing Weather Modification Office. They can do some crazy stuff, we were warned by the reset dummies that this kind of chaos would happen. I guess this is their dark winter. Call me crazy (please do) but I'm living in a post reality where the Chicoms own the US President and have access to power grid, sinister gates does tv interviews about climate disasters the DAY OF climate disasters and pumping us with fake meat, and people are still not open to the fact that this might have something to do with globalists stealing our election to remove populism and patriotism? We're the last continent to not go socialist/communist so hey 2021 why not try on some Commie Pants for a little while. FFS.
AND the soyboy slime minister of Canada tries to train the CCP in winter warfare at the same time the whole continent is cracking down on guns. Coincidences, coincidences, coincidences... should I fact check my thoughts?
Look up HAARP. Weather has been changeable since the 1950’s. Add some of these other variables , and it’s time for a renewable generator, or propane at least. Hoping for the best for all involved.
Wow just checking it out now, thanks. Wasn't there something up with weather in Vietnam too? I feel like I've heard about that somewhere along the way.
I’ve got a 20kw natural gas generator and a 7.5kw gasoline one that can be piped into the same transfer if necessary. It’s almost a must in the PA Wilds where trees like to do battle with power lines.
Fuck that noise. I have a lake property in southern MO near a Nuclear Power Plant. The wildlife there are flurishing. The air is nicer, the water is cleaner. The only down side is we're close enough to hear the hum of the turbines at night. But I live next to an Ameren coal power plant, that's just on the other side of the river here and I can hear the turbines going at night there too. Doesn't bother me a bit. I'm hoping that the plant goes Nuclear soon. I would be fucking thrilled for that.
I lived in Jacksonville Fl . Every house had a fireplace except apartments back then. The worst cold we ever saw was 7 degrees and that was in 1986, and snow in 89. It comes down to not expecting it. Its not a yearly occurrence. It like Miami seeing snow it can happen, but it would be rare
Why wouldn't you ask for the money? They're looking after their constituents, may as well fleece fraud Biden as much as you can. NY and CA can ask for money for "racism" they caused, not sure why Texas can't demand money for this.
My poor parents are in Houston and have had 0 power since snow touched ground. The Downtown Skyline is all lit up though. Glad to see the commies in Htown have their priorities.
Anybody get the feeling this is supposed to be some sort of "message" to Texans? I mean who can't read a weather forecast and get the system ready for it? That's what they do for a living or at least that's what they get paid to do for you. Now people are having to huddle together in "stations" to get warm. Suspicious as hell considering the past year.
Just imagine if China had built this grid. Maybe they did. Maybe they will. One wonders if there will be any investigation into these outages and how they will be prevented in the future.
I'm starting to have a hard time believing coincidences anymore.
Only State with their own power grid... threatening to secede... Suddenly experiencing massive power grid failure during Record cold temps.
I suspect support for Texit just evaporated... How convenient.
I only pray Biden does a fly over of TX very soon as a glorious example of his courage and bravery. The people will thus be honored and blessed and kept warm from his radiating glory. rrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
The last blackout we had was at least five hours long. Meanwhile, upperclass neighborhoods in DFW continue to have power uninterrupted. You do the math.
Welcome to Joe Xiden's America
Not surprising at all. We had that blackout back in the early 2000s in the NE for almost a week, people went fucking crazy, shit literally almost collapsed lol. Now, Californians cheer em on.
Back in'07 me and a buddy lived near Independence Iowa, in an old country house. That winter an ice storm took out all the power lines and we lost electricity. We made it three days before we each went to our parent's houses, where they had power. It took them almost two weeks to fix the lines. Not sure what we would have done if we didn't have family to stay with.
i'm on day 7 today. Admittedly I do go to a gas station to charge my phone.
Derecho?
A friend took a motorcycle trip through part of the area that had been hit and shared a bunch of pictures of all the flattened cornfields and downed trees. The mainstream media hadn't said a peep about it. I didn't even know what a 'derecho' was until he posted the pictures.
Bullshit.
Taking down the grid periodically will become part of the green new deal.
This is not hyperbole. This is absolute truth.
Like in Cuba
Electric company-" wait what you want to not pay this month but still have powr?! Hahahahshshhs! Oh by the way we're going to "control outage," you but make sure you keep paying ok."
Yeah, I've been out 26 hours now. If my energy company tries to charge me for the fucking $9,000 per MWh that it hit this morning while I've been out, I'm going to go ballistic. Fuck this.
Say what now?
Oh, Cali had a "black out" much worse than 19.
They cut the power in CA because the state was trying to shift responsibility for the wildfires from the state's poor forest management to the power companies. So power companies understandably decided to to take the liability of being blamed for burning the state down whenever it gets hot, dry, and windy.
No kidding, PG&E went bankrupt over this. Given potential bankruptcy over liability claims, I would be shutting down power as well.
but if power companies go out of business that means more less-expensive electricity for everybody, right?
The black out we had was on the entire west coast. It we had weather like Texas right now back than it would of killed a bunch of people. But, it was the middle of summer so no airconditioning.
Which can kill people with respiratory problems.
The power going out means people WILL die as a direct result. That is true. Please people if you're sensitive to elements because your health or whatever is compromised have a plan. No matter where you are in life just try and plan and expect thigs like this to happen.
I'm part of a co-op here in north central Florida: Sumter Electric Cooperative, SECO. They are excellent! And they let it be known on a regular basis they they are beholden only to their customers, as well as employees and shareholders, all who have to be customers of SECO.
We’re with a co-op. They’re still beholden to ERCOT. Doesn’t matter.
Uhhhh, yeah, brainchild...if you’re in north Texas, your electric company is part of ERCOT as well. http://www.aect.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/NERC-entities-in-Texas.jpg
That's not true the local Co-ops have been taken over by a corporate entity called NCG.
Co-ops are not locally owned they are funded by the federal government
Really hoping Texans are based enough to take action against this. And I hope that these companies are liable for their failures. I'd hope that when they were awarded contracts they made promises against this happening.
Oh there will be action taken, the issue will be in which direction. The dems and the media are already out in force trying to protect their precious wind turbines.
Exactly. They’re actually blaming—wait for it—natural gas. What?! Fucking idiots. The only issue we’re having with natural,gas is them not having electric companies use the fucktons of natural gas we have in Texas.
You mean the very same ones that froze solid and aren't generating any power?
Who would have guessed?
Dark Winter...
oh in a GOP majority state won by Trump. I didn't notice. C'mon, man!
It's cause (I shit you not) the wind turbines froze solid and can't generate power.
chynese virus = no work/travel = no demand gas = no fracking = no oil = no jobs = fracking closed = no oil = freezing Texas.
You forgot "Frozen Wind Turbines = No Power = Freezing Texas"
Welcome to California
Florida is now the only chunk of America left. Don’t fuck it up.
We're trying. Convince all your New York and New England friends that Florida sucks.
Panhandle maybe.
Florida man 🤣
Florida is still using dominion systems, even after the fallout of the election. I wonder why things were so close, and why our amendments went the way that they did?
He needs to get all that shit out of our state.
One thing is for sure: we can always count on u/Anaconda to be a left wing operative.
Anaconda is on a future timeline.
Dammit anaconda, you’re up and down. De Santis has seemed pretty good handling covid and the swamp bullshit.
Why is he a beta cuck in your opinion?
On the positive side, this event has had no adverse effects on foreign aid to other countries.
3RD WORLD COUNTRY STATUS HAS NOW BEEN CONFIRMED.
We’ve had 3 hours of power in 30 hours.
That's awful. I thought 2 hours of power in 24 hours was bad!
That's Venezuela type numbers there
That's about how it's been here. Been on for nearly an hour now, bout time for a shut down.
My house at 2 pm CST was 38 degrees...in my house....not outside...The water is shut off through out the town......since this morning...burst pipes..."We are working on it." Always a good idea to be prepared...except I did not plan well enough...generator is up next on the plan...people in town did not prepare...I had a full tank of gas ...lines up the wazooo at HEB this afternoon they opened at noon...really crazy one local place in town was open but his lights were down dim..I only stopped because of all the pick up trucks parked on the street...really infuriating...this rolling. black out...WTF
Power was shut around 2pm with us. Came back at 2am. Cut off again at 6 pm.
No water. Their excuse is the water table is low, and that people letting their spigots to dribble was the cause.... smh on that one.
That’s what you’re supposed to do to avoid busted water pipes. What would they expect people to do?
For those who can’t afford a generator or don’t have enough weather events to justify the cost of one a portable propane powered heater may help next time.
My plan for times like this is portable heater, lanterns that recharge as well as take batteries (have stocked up) and firewood. We can be warm, see at night, and can heat food outside over the fire pit. So far, never been without power for more than a day but the ice storm heading our way may challenge that record!
Small Asian cook tops. Again markets.
ERCOT is Assho!
You’ll love this then. /s
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-heads-of-ercots-board-of-directors-dont-even-live-in-texas/ar-BB1dJpmm
Not just them two, five members of the board don't live in Texas.
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/2021/02/16/ercot-board-under-fire-texas-five-out-state-members/6768919002/
It’s extremely infuriating!😡
I had the misfortune of living in the shit hole otherwise known as Queens in 2006 or 2007 and it got hot enough to melt underground electric cables. Power was out for 13 days in 100 degree heat. The typical piss smell takes on a whole nother level under those conditions
I live in the ghetto and my neighborhood has underground lines. We still got our power cut.
Me to. Power still on.
Math is racist.
Snow is racist.
It has the nerve to be white.
White snow is prettier.😂
White Snow Privilege must be punished!
Go to your assigned warming center where you must wear a mask and not bring anything with which to defend yourself, serf.
In black history month!!! SMH!! SAD
Agreed, it’s too white. We need some coal power plants to turn the snow black and brown.
This happens every few years. This is nothing new at all. Why are people so retarded, if they just kept regular power plants or even built modern nuclear plants (which Northern and Western Texas are perfect for) they wouldn't be having this issue. So now people are going to die.8
If this happened when Trump was president he would be blamed.
I don't think it's Biden's fault but I certainly think we should blame him. Dude was playing Mario Kart instead of saving Texas? Where the fuck are his priorities
Yes we should blame him. Give him hell like they did to Trump. This is propaganda warfare and all democrats need to be blamed for anything bad that happens.
It’s technically all their fault. They’re all about government regulation and pushing this unnatural “green” energy bullshit subsidizing the natural, reliable energy producers out of business.
Not technically, it IS their fault.
Why did Texas switch 17% of their grid to wind?
Federal subsidies and the gradual communist invasion? Obama shut down thousands of coal plants, Trump simply stopped more shutdowns. When coal plants are forced to shut down and nuclear is evil all that’s left is subsidized bullshit.
I don't understand how Obama forced texas to shut down their coal plants? Texas isn't part of the grid so they don't have to follow federal regulations.
EPA has no authority in Texas? https://www.epa.gov/tx/enforcement-and-compliance-assurance-texas#2
These places are all run by communist scum.
Nuclear power is like the Donald Trump of energy generation. Revolutionary and ready to change the world, but hated by almost everyone. Nuclear energy is literally Hitler for a lot of people
Doesn't seem reasonable to blame the wind farms though. Isn't part of the inherent problem with wind power that you need a backup source of power for when the wind ain't blowin?
Doesn't make sense to me 13% of the outages are from wind power.
Faggots.
Unfortunately, people with principles do not control the media – and if they did, the country would have fewer problems.
In any case, the right thing to do is to consistently report fairly.
Shutting down the pipeline means he is to blame for the speculation and shortage of natural gas. So IMO he is partially to blame.
They cut Mexico off too and now they're pissed
I thought you were being hyperbolic... they literally ran a fluff piece of him playing mario kart. Jesus fucking Christ, just nuke us already China.
China already owns us. They wouldn't nuke their own investments.
Why does everyone hype China up, they have 800 million in poverty and its 3/4 desert.
they are the chosen ones of the NWO
China isn't strong enough
It’s a double edge sword. Short term, give him issues to “solve”, then get some meme material from his abysmal solution to solve “climate change”. Then he enacts it and we are all fucked. Never let a crisis go to waste
Especially a crisis that they manufactured . . .
DARK WINTER...sure we can throw his words back at him
He hasn't even made a statement or gone down to do a visit.
I don't expect he will. We gave our electoral votes to the actual President.
He is unwelcome in Texas.
Because modern life in America has 'advanced' to the point you can live your life in complete ignorance of everything around you and still function. People have fogotten what it is like to actually suffer. Hell even our 'poor' live better lives than the well to do in other nations. Can't remember the last time I saw a generational welfare recipient who wasn't well fed with nice clothes and a cellphone and a comfy government supplied apartment unless they were a drug addict or mentally ill and homeless but even then they still get cellphones and welfare if they choose.
What is that old saying? Bad times make strong men who bring good times which makes weak men who bring the bad times. Well we are at the point the weak men are the most populous and you can see the result. So prepare for some real bad times to wake the population back up. Our nation has been at this point before and gotten past it stronger than ever and we will do it yet again.
The most infuriating thing to me is seeing a fat welfare recipient complaining on the news.
Tired of fat black bitches talking about privilege's and oppression. They tell me they are fat becaue they can't get access to food. Yeah that's why your 400 lbs bitch lol.
Lol. Remember when Trump wanted to bring back government cheese instead of giving those moochers cash, and they flipped out? Good times lol.
They take the SNAP card at convenience stores for pork rinds and orange soda . . .
lol. In Portland they can stock up on orange soda and dump most of it in a storm drain and turn the bottles in for cash. I've seen that going on at a Safeway there. From the size of the tar pit it looked pretty common.
My local gas station/convenience store put a new sign up this week that EBT is no longer accepted at their station. Hoping it becomes a trend.
They also act like they lived through slavery despite the fact no black person alive has lived though the Civil War era.
I have to say that at my age I remember a time when dogs were dogs. Now they eat better and have cushier lives than a large % of people in this world.
Got any examples of when this cycle occurred within our nations history? Genuinely curious and hungry for delicious whitepills.
Oh the great depression is one. The 60's and the cold war are another though we didn't go far enough to stamp out the commies and they have come back stronger than ever. The civil war seems to come to mind for some reason or another. Burning of the white house by angry british pissed we got away from them and the choking of our sea trade and prosperity by blockades and conscription of any Americans they caught. There are many other stumbling points but not quite as major but still meaningful.
Read up on how God sent a tornado to DC that stopped the Red Coats from advancing further into DC. Truly a miracle.
If you're being honest, this is black pill territory. The instances listed below occurred when people still saw themselves and each other as Americans and were proud of it. Those days are dwindling if not already over. Our tribe is being ripped apart from the inside out.
During the civil war the country was literally and politically divided. Both sides considered themselves proud Americans, thought the other side tyrants or traitors. The war itself is what we think of, but this was an awful, ongoing situation for decades before the shooting started.
Interesting to remember that the north and south remained ay great enmity for a hundred years. I well remember as a kid in the early 60s how the southern states voted as a block (the blue dog democrats) and were very hostile to "yankees" passing through. They taught their kids a mythology of honor v tyranny that lasted long after the last vet had died.
NO such thing as "yankees" in my grandparents generation. It's damned yankees.
Now, well now it's an explanation. Why in the hell is JesusWept acting like that? Oh, him, he's a yankee. And we all nod knowingly.
Similarly, look into The Fourth Turning theory. Bannon did a documentary on this, Generation Zero....been a while since I watched it, but I don't recall white pills.
This is why they’re supposed to teach history in school
And why they don't teach it anymore because if the average person had a good grasp of history then the current leadership wouldn't be getting away with what they are doing.
I've been in TX for 6 years and have never had this happen. A 1 hour rolling blackout maybe, but I've been without power for 10 hours now. 20 out of 24 hours of the last two days with no electricity.
Glen Rose, TX does have a nuclear plan, last time I checked, and it's in North Texas
"controlled outages"
Holy fuck. If my line of work had "controlled outages", they would erect a gallows outside.
Controlled outages is the only option until power generation can meet demand. If demand exceeds generation then there's risk of more uncontrolled outages when distribution breakers start tripping. Or the electrical utility could tie in generators which feed a few homes but obviously that requires a ton of generators, workers, and time.
Yep. I worked in energy for years, power cos. have a legal responsibility to provide power. Its not an option. In return they get tax breaks, price support, etc. If they fail they should lose their license and be replaced by competitors. Its a good system thats worked for 100 years until federal "green" mandate interference.
Or maybe we could get rid of state involvement in this shit entirely and let competition ALWAYS do its thing.
How exactly would that work for power utilities though? You can't have 10 competing companies building utility poles across the city.
That is how ENRON happened. And why these companies are now under so much regulation.
Oh they succeeded alright. This was the goal.
I know...and agree. I was just adding my $0.02 since I'm sure some people are wondering why it takes a while to restore power (when I'm restoring power people always ask "How long's it going to take?" or "What's taking so long?"
It's not controlled. Controlled outages roll between 45 minutes and 2 hours. Not 8-10 hours at a time allowing people's pipes to freeze.
Notice they don’t mention any equipment failures. It is all about demand right now. When the equipment starts to break we are really screwed.
I mean... I guess it's better than "uncontrolled outages"... which I assume is just a transformer exploding somewhere.
Found the Pornhub employee.
Am I the only one who read this as "controlled outrages"?
Everybody enjoying their free trial of socialism?
Sorry I can't hear you over the sound of Florida being awesome.
The main reason is it's ~20 degrees lower than the typical lowest low during the year. Normally 15-25 and it's -2 during the night the last 2 nights. Stupid people running their AC at 65+ when their AC can't heat their house that many degrees above the outside temp so it just runs constantly and never stops. Also many electric companies charge a flat rate per KWH used, and so demand sky rockets but the price does not so people keep using electricity they don't need when others desperately need it. Also electric companies are never held responsible for not being able to deliver electricity, at least as far as I know, so there's no incentive for them to plan for extreme demand. They can just shut of your electric even though you have a contract and there's no repercussions afaik.
It's not full blow socialism, but maybe a little. Also maybe a little of corrupt capitalism. Or it might just be people entering in to stupid contracts. Why would you enter into a contract with a company that can fail to deliver the product you need with no consequences? I don't know much about the legal aspect of how electric delivery is handled but someone who does could probably give more info.
That's not how the relationship between electricity price and demand works. If your electricity price skyrockets it takes about three billing cycles before households say, hmm, maybe we should consider unplugging the toaster when we're not using it, see if that helps, etc. The elasticity doesn't accommodate special time-sensitive circumstances; it would merely be gouging.
Not sure what you mean. Texas has a wholesale electric price that updates every 5 minutes and there are plans you can use that you pay wholesale price at the time + delivery instead of a flat rate. Normally it is around 2 cents a kWh plus 3.92 cents delivery per kWh, but it shot up to over $9 per kWh because demand was so high. That could easily costs you hundreds of dollars to run your HVAC system for an hour. Luckily I saw this coming because I was using Griddy for a while and was able to switch to a plan that charged only 7.5 cents per kWh. Next day that company removed that plan and switched to a 15cents per kWh plan.
Yeah, being on a moment-to-moment plan like Griddy sounds great until you realize it's a lot like shorting stocks, it has infinite downside. You're not going to learn how much the price has shot up for the last 5 minutes until you've already used it.
The grid operator is legally required to shut off all businesses usage first. If it is found out they did not do this there will be hell to pay.
Electricity is totally socialized. At least in my area (not in Texas though). There's one company and they get a monopoly from the local government.
There are state public utilities commissions in every state that give certain advantages to utilities in exchage for steady production. Extreme cold is not an excuse - they hit 100 year lows today but they have to be prepared for 500 year lows. This is doable with fossill fuels because they can be physically stockpiled in the offseason at lower prices. I dont know to what extent wind and solar can be efficiently stored.
Energy is the post heavily regulated industry in the U.S. They dont have the option of faoling. Contact state PUCOs and tear into them. Hold them accountable.
So you'd rather have socialized energy? Fuck that
I thought you were going in a totally different direction.
Yes, this is definitely crony capitalism and overregulation.
The power companies should have sent out a notice to all customers on Friday that electricity was going to be scarce and therefore the price would triple for the next week. That would have gotten people to conserve and it would have encouraged the power company to buy fuel at inflated rates rather than just sustain blackouts.
That's way more thought than anyone should put into anything I say.
Morons gonna downvote because they can't comprehend what you said.
Dark winter refers to experimenting on the population with biological warfare. They just increased vaccine distribution 50% over when the usurper got installed.
Has the fake president called for FEMA to assist?
No, he’s busy being spoon fed banana pudding and losing at Mario Kart.
He upgraded to Gerber
That's nothing to sniff at.
You saw the Mario Kart Bee article too??
Wasn’t a bee article. Mainstream news reported him playing Mario kart with his granddaughter.
One of many, many articles:
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/538896-biden-plays-mario-kart-with-granddaughter-at-camp-david
Oh. The Bee did put out a parody article on the topic though. 🙃
He's too busy barking at windchimes
If Texas gets fucking fema for 48 hours of intermittent power in sorta cold weather I’m gonna laugh my fucking ass off at them
Yeah, Biden approved Abbott's request this weekend, iirc
FEMA never helps Texas. FEMA can fuck the hell off! We can take care of ourselves! We'd rather be cold for a few days, than sacrifice our rights and freedom to FEMA's ever encroaching "benevolence"!
Wow, they really told folks who have no electricity to check for resources online...what the fuck?
They also told them to make preparations. With no notice whatsoever. Because they couldn't look at the weather forecast and know that colder weather means people are going to want to turn on heat?
Charge your phone in your car
Cell service was out most of yesterday for me and a lot of others
Remember to leave the garage door cracked. Otherwise, RIP.
Cracked is not enough as carbon monoxide doesn't sink, it mixes with the air of the room. Best to open the door entirely or pull outside to be extra safe.
lmao... or he could drive it around :D
I know folks who've been without power for 2 days.... yet auto dealerships all around the area have EVERY SINGLE LIGHT on all night long despite being closed for business.
How else will they convince you to buy a new car every 2 years?
That’s possibly the most unironicly ironic Texas thing ever.
Been without power for 26 hours. And that statement is 100% how I know the "lockdowns" were bullshit.
People are at real risk of dying from exposure this week, and yet power is straight being wasted..... but no orders from the governor, or mayors to common sense shit like that.
The grid operator is legally bound to shut off business first so, WTF?
We had no electricity for 40+ hours. I finally went and sat in my car to warm up, decided to drive around. Every commercial building was lit up, and most had absolutely no reason to be open during this.
0ncor service map for those curious as I was. We live 30 minutes outside Austin and our power hasn't even flickered. We have been lucky so far.
Spez: Added the link that didn't save in edit.
https://www.oncor.com/SitePages/ServiceAreaMap.aspx
Great thread explaining the situation: https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1361734258629353473.html
Thanks. That helped me understand.
I'm about an hour South of you and just got power back on after about 40 hours. Pipes all froze. Thawed out briefly to flood everything. It's pretty freaking bad in my area.
My brother just had a pipe burst. I’m waiting a couple of days before turning the water back on. Still have cast iron pipes. My city just sent out a boil drinking water alert because pressure has dropped below safe levels.
You just jinxed Austin.
I live in Burleson. I had no power Friday, Saturday, and Sunday but I have power now. If anyone needs a generator I have one. Just a small one though 3500/4350 watts.
Does it run off sun and love or are you DESTROYING THE ENVIRONMENT!! REEEEEE!
Is anyone actually dying? My brother claimed 25 have.
Cold temperatures kill very fast.
Speaking as a Canadian, there's a reason there isn't a homelessness problem up here like California's, and it isn't our healthcare or social plans. If you haven't ever seen a frozen corpse, you don't work within a city, that's for sure. All the major cities have departments who need to pick up the frozen dead on the regular. And it isn't like those homeless are transplants from Cali, they're also Canadians, and know how to deal with the cold. The knowledge doesn't change their life expectancy from "next February", though.
Now, these people DO have homes, and given A/C is a thing, I imagine they're insulated homes which would help, but if they aren't, then yeah, gonna have a few not waking up if they're dumb about it. But I think blackouts will not kill from cold so much as from key electronics: People who have at-home medical equipment, in example.
If only we had this technology to take say, a heat producing radioactive element, use it to create steam and run a turbine. They can run 24/7/365 and don't emit any eeeevil Co2.
Worked fine for the submarines I served aboard...
We have some nuclear in Texas. Need more of it. Takes about 15 years to build.
Comanche Peak is our nuclear plant in Glenn Rose, TX.
Ive had 3 hours total since 7:30 am yesterday..its now 4 pm. 32 hours. Everyone I have talked to in Dallas is fine. No outages. Blue areas fine...red areas..not so much. Not trying to be political..but this is more than just weather. I think ther is a serious effort to crush conservative Texas. Just saying.
They’re always going to prioritize cities first due to population density and cities tend to lean communist.
It’s hard not being political when you know Biden handed over access to our power grid to China. Nothing surprises me anymore.
In order to prevent your power from going out accidentally, we're going to shut it off on purpose. Honk honk.
beautiful
Fuck ERCOT for their incompetence and the Texas legislature for not enacting legislation imposing penalties on utilities that did not follow recommendations after the last winter storm fubar.
Jeff Leach (TX State Rep) is working on legislation for this
Posted this above, too, but it absolutely made my blood boil. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/the-heads-of-ercots-board-of-directors-dont-even-live-in-texas/ar-BB1dJpmm
How much you fuckers want to bet this is globalist sabotage on one of the countries biggest independent grid systems? Either by RINOs or Dem operatives, take your pick. The weather is obviously key factor, but it seems too widespread than what power outages should've happened in record conditions.
You'll know when you see Biden, media, Dems, social media ass blasting to the public that this is solely Abbott and Republicans fault for wanting to be independent from the Feds, yet another glorious NEVER LET A CRISIS GO TO WASTE.
Can this all actually be attributed to the Potato In Chief? I have never seen shit so bad. It's not like it doesn't get cold in the United States in FEBRUARY!!
My two cents... this is related to all of the thousands of administrators involved in the power grid working from home for almost a year.
Absolutely has something to do with the shitty response. I had to jump through my own asshole to get power hooked up to a new business because of Covid and it's a fucking power pole outside in the woods with no people.
Hey there, quit HAARPing on about nonsense.
These temps are actual "historic" lows for February in the areas most affected. We do not set up our systems to handle freak weather events that occur once every 100 years.
That is literally their job though.
He thinks he is currently the President so , absolutely.
Kansas and Missouri have a nuclear power plant and they aren’t having any problems at all it seems.
That check from Biden come in yet? Simping so hard huh
I am in Dallas Fort Worth area and our outages were 13 hours off, 2 hours on then 9 hours off. Now it's averaging 3 hours on and 3 hours off.
Oncor? Isn't that the same company that made those shitty TV dinners?
"Veal" parm for the whole family!
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=C-6mI708yWc
I didnt have power for 48 hours.. It just kicked on!
That's some apocalypse shit right there. Stay safe and find warmth Texas pedes... We need you in this fight.
What about global warming though? Isn't that the crisis? We should shut down more coal fire power plants immediately.
It was the crisis but they stopped calling it that decades ago so they could call us idiots when stuff like this happened.
"Weather isn't climate"...unless it's a big hurricane, apparently.
CCP buys into the grid. CCP has the Beijing Weather Modification Office. They can do some crazy stuff, we were warned by the reset dummies that this kind of chaos would happen. I guess this is their dark winter. Call me crazy (please do) but I'm living in a post reality where the Chicoms own the US President and have access to power grid, sinister gates does tv interviews about climate disasters the DAY OF climate disasters and pumping us with fake meat, and people are still not open to the fact that this might have something to do with globalists stealing our election to remove populism and patriotism? We're the last continent to not go socialist/communist so hey 2021 why not try on some Commie Pants for a little while. FFS.
AND the soyboy slime minister of Canada tries to train the CCP in winter warfare at the same time the whole continent is cracking down on guns. Coincidences, coincidences, coincidences... should I fact check my thoughts?
Look up HAARP. Weather has been changeable since the 1950’s. Add some of these other variables , and it’s time for a renewable generator, or propane at least. Hoping for the best for all involved.
Wow just checking it out now, thanks. Wasn't there something up with weather in Vietnam too? I feel like I've heard about that somewhere along the way.
Never heard about that. I have heard, but can’t verify, that there is never a rainout when Putin has a parade.
Hah, I believe it. When Putin listens to spotify, the artist gets the ads!
This is some fucking ENRON shit
ERCOT...ENRON....we are above the mark.
Pedo Joe turned the power grid over to China. Red state citizens already suffering. All by design.
The federal government is a domestic terror organization.
Texas has a state run power grid, only state that does
I’ve got a 20kw natural gas generator and a 7.5kw gasoline one that can be piped into the same transfer if necessary. It’s almost a must in the PA Wilds where trees like to do battle with power lines.
Recommendations? Going to need one after this blows over.
This is the one I’ve got. We’ve had no problems with it at all. https://www.kohlerpower.com/home/home-generators/products?prodNum=20RESC
No regulated power since 5:30 yesterday.
Two generators are up and running giving us heat and a few amenities like the coffee maker.
No need for the refrigerator -- leaving the doors open keeps the food cold!
Go wind turbines!
THIS IS AMERICA. THIS SHIT DOES NOT HAPPEN HERE. THIS IS A FAILURE OF THE GOVERNMENT. THIS IS A FAILURE OF 'GREEN ENERGY'.
IT IS OUR DUTY TO REMIND EVERY LIBERAL THAT IF WE DID NOT STILL HAVE SOME FOSSILE FUELS AMERICANS WOULD BE FREEZING TO DEATH.
This is why you dont let democrats near your energy infrastructure.
Freezing in TX because of a lack of energy for heat is like dying of dehydration while floating in a lake.
So, not from Texas, and don't really know the full story here, but why is Texas, of all states, relying on wind turbines and not nuclear power?
Dems gotta Dem.
Big Oil hates nuclear almost as much as Big Green does. So the foundation was already set when the transplants yelled "nimby! nimby!"
Fuck that noise. I have a lake property in southern MO near a Nuclear Power Plant. The wildlife there are flurishing. The air is nicer, the water is cleaner. The only down side is we're close enough to hear the hum of the turbines at night. But I live next to an Ameren coal power plant, that's just on the other side of the river here and I can hear the turbines going at night there too. Doesn't bother me a bit. I'm hoping that the plant goes Nuclear soon. I would be fucking thrilled for that.
Is "controlled" outages kinda like the controlled pandemic?
Folks never heard of burn barrels ? Improvise girls
Or a fireplace. We use to have those fake wood stoves in the 80's. Put the wood in and it would heat the whole house.
Everyone can’t have a fireplace, buts it’s nothing to break down old wood furniture and burn it in the garbage can. Turn it into a block party
I lived in Jacksonville Fl . Every house had a fireplace except apartments back then. The worst cold we ever saw was 7 degrees and that was in 1986, and snow in 89. It comes down to not expecting it. Its not a yearly occurrence. It like Miami seeing snow it can happen, but it would be rare
Texas deserves the right to self-determination to prevent lefty disasters in the future.
Windmill stopped going BRRRR
Why wouldn't you ask for the money? They're looking after their constituents, may as well fleece fraud Biden as much as you can. NY and CA can ask for money for "racism" they caused, not sure why Texas can't demand money for this.
I’ve been without power since 3am on Sunday. It’s been 40 degrees in my house.
That's ridiculous!
Don't forget that Xiden has given the CCP control over our electrical grid.
My poor parents are in Houston and have had 0 power since snow touched ground. The Downtown Skyline is all lit up though. Glad to see the commies in Htown have their priorities.
I was really hoping for an "Epstein didn't kill himself" at the end.
Anybody get the feeling this is supposed to be some sort of "message" to Texans? I mean who can't read a weather forecast and get the system ready for it? That's what they do for a living or at least that's what they get paid to do for you. Now people are having to huddle together in "stations" to get warm. Suspicious as hell considering the past year.
Just imagine if China had built this grid. Maybe they did. Maybe they will. One wonders if there will be any investigation into these outages and how they will be prevented in the future.
Obama told ya’ll to set your thermostat to 72, you were warned pedes
I just want to get to the point where the libtards start eating each other to stave off starvation.
Last one standing gets a free education in how to not be a moron.
I'd like to take on the last liberal standing. Win or lose, it'd be a major improvement.
I'm starting to have a hard time believing coincidences anymore. Only State with their own power grid... threatening to secede... Suddenly experiencing massive power grid failure during Record cold temps. I suspect support for Texit just evaporated... How convenient.
Exhibit A as to why you don't let liberals run anything at any level at any point in time for any time period whatsoever.
Retarded gReEn EnErGy takes you here.
If only we had a pipeline that went from Canada to Texas filled with precious energy,...
I only pray Biden does a fly over of TX very soon as a glorious example of his courage and bravery. The people will thus be honored and blessed and kept warm from his radiating glory. rrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Power rationing, welcome to the Soviet Union.
When Democrats are in control it feels like the stone age...
[Chuckles in Californian]
No more bad-mouthing my state after this, folks.
Texas didn't set itself on fire all summer, at least.
Correct. The sun can do that by itself, without any need for ridiculous forest mismanagement or antifa.
I am praying for those warmer days to return. This cold shit sucks!