Thank you for posting this video, u/Salt-E45 ! I had not seen this one, and I appreciate any additional info on this incident (having watched many different angles at great length since that day.)
As I have done myself, I would recommend comparing as many videos as are available rather than basing ones' conclusion on just one video presentation (and as always, raw unedited footage is its own commentary.) Through viewing the various videos taken by different people in the group that day, I have learned many aspects of the incident that may/may not be seen in any one particular video. I recommend this open-minded approach to any video of a controversial nature, in order to truly get to the Real Story.
That said: there will be another post from me in this thread discussing various points of accuracy, with linked illustrations/articles to support my conclusions. I feel that it is important to show how/why I reach these opinions, rather than state the opinion unverified (as the makers of many "conspiracy theory"-related videos tend to do.)
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you - the glass in the door isn’t the point -
I know safety glass does brake out in one sheet - and I know different gun shot wounds bleed in different matters depending on the caliber type of round also what part of the body it hits - still not the point -
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My personal opinion -The thing that stands out the most - she’s got a large backpack on -
To brake the fall - everyone is just standing around- making no real attempt to render aid
To her - the police do next to nothing to Control the scene - almost as if they are posing for pics — and to me the raw audio says it all - it’s not frantic sounding - it’s not Constant - it’s broken up - as if they are takes - just trying to make sound bites - to brake in to individual clips - The cops and rioters are all standing next to each other - almost as if they all know One another and trying to take a group photo - Some points in the video the
“Rioters“ put their hands on the cops back -
No cop would let a suspect stand behind them - let alone touch them - what’s to stop them from attacking or going for the officers weapon with their back turned - doesn’t add up- and the kid at the end during the interview with the “blood” on his hand -
Just looks like bad acting to me —
Also why were they allowed to leave the building - and Walk down the stairs -
You would think everyone in the hallway would have been arrested immediately
That’s my take on it anyway-
I urge everyone to watch the video and make your own conclusion - note the link isn’t to wooz news -
I tried to find it on the official Channel
But it looks like it was deleted or more likely taken down — can’t let something like this get out - right -
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My goal in analyzing any event like this is to address the things that can be verified either visually, by common-sense, or by generally-accepted scientific/medical facts. I'm not saying everything about this video is false or fishy (apart from the editor's motives of self-promotion and/or distracting from facts by making wildly uninformed claims based on nothing more than his need for attention and unicorn farts.)
Example: Another issue I forgot to address: the video-maker obviously knows little about the artistic concept of "perspective," as he illustrates when he mis-interprets the angle of trajectory/the shooter's aim. (And he should probably take a look at this, while he's at it. Moar fun with that here.) He's also not considering that he doesn't understand how wide-angle lenses work, and how that could be distorting the perspective. This is why I'm very interested to see the official ballistics and autopsy reports, the shooter sweeps across the group and targets others trying to decide who to shoot.
As far as the backpack, lots of people had backpacks that day (for provisions etc.) It would be no surprise for someone to have a pillow or sleeping-bag in there, because under those conditions one might have to sleep in a spot of opportunity. (That day was full of unknowns, going in. As a military veteran, she would be well-trained in the ways of outdoor survival skills.) Even so, the padding effect of landing on that wouldn't protect her head (unless it got pulled upward) and could have worsened the stress on her neck upon impact. I'm still on the fence about whether she hit her head on the handrail fixture or the floor (some videos show them moving her slightly to a flatter position.) That's something I'm still trying to put together, so far due to the crowded conditions it's difficult to find an unobstructed video that shows her full path from the window to the floor.
The behavior of the police and SWAT though, I don't need video commentary to tell me that is some very fishy stuff. Cops (especially in a high-profile position like that) tend to be arrogant and demanding when on-duty. Under the circumstances, almost every cop we saw that day was being abnormally calm and non-confrontational. I don't get that at all- if they were that concerned about the doors being breached, they didn't show any sign of it until the shot.
None of the officers' behavior makes sense, and is often completely counter to normal tactics/safety practices/common sense- especially in failing to detain and question every person in that group. Normally, everyone in view of the shooting would be immediately against the wall or on the floor getting cuffed: those people were eyewitnesses to an officer-related shooting, I'm pretty sure that sending them away is not normal police procedure. That is a very serious breach of conduct and I have no explanation for that beyond dirty cops gonna dirty.
I have no explanation (beyond overconfidence) as to why the officers would just push through a group of un-frisked trespassers. That is either unbelievably careless, or utterly incompetent. As I said in another post, any accessories like ammo magazines/flash-bangs/pepper-spray not secured by some form of "retention holster"-style device (with a trick required to deploy) could easily be taken and used against them, were it merely held by a snap or velcro. (My SWAT-veteran associate tells me there are "retention" devices available for those accessories, but due to the "need for speed" these are not SOP except for possibly handcuffs. He also says it would be highly unusual for them to proceed into a group of "active protestors" in that manner without strong intelligence that they would be not likely to be armed or potentially violent. Additionally, he says SWAT officers place high confidence in their backup and are thus not very concerned with the possibility of having accessories snatched from their uniform.)
The video-editing is just messy, and difficult to tell if it is being chopped-up for time/pacing or if he's trying to hide/imply things. The audio is obviously even messier, I have not even started on that aspect (comparing ripped-from-video audio clips to see if certain "transients" line up, and to see if any fake/overdubbed elements are present in one video's audiotrack that are not in an otherwise similar one.)
tl;dr Defense attorneys love me, I'm their nightmare jury-duty candidate : )
Thank you for posting this video, u/Salt-E45 ! I had not seen this one, and I appreciate any additional info on this incident (having watched many different angles at great length since that day.)
As I have done myself, I would recommend comparing as many videos as are available rather than basing ones' conclusion on just one video presentation (and as always, raw unedited footage is its own commentary.) Through viewing the various videos taken by different people in the group that day, I have learned many aspects of the incident that may/may not be seen in any one particular video. I recommend this open-minded approach to any video of a controversial nature, in order to truly get to the Real Story.
That said: there will be another post from me in this thread discussing various points of accuracy, with linked illustrations/articles to support my conclusions. I feel that it is important to show how/why I reach these opinions, rather than state the opinion unverified (as the makers of many "conspiracy theory"-related videos tend to do.)
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree with you - the glass in the door isn’t the point - I know safety glass does brake out in one sheet - and I know different gun shot wounds bleed in different matters depending on the caliber type of round also what part of the body it hits - still not the point - — My personal opinion -The thing that stands out the most - she’s got a large backpack on - To brake the fall - everyone is just standing around- making no real attempt to render aid To her - the police do next to nothing to Control the scene - almost as if they are posing for pics — and to me the raw audio says it all - it’s not frantic sounding - it’s not Constant - it’s broken up - as if they are takes - just trying to make sound bites - to brake in to individual clips - The cops and rioters are all standing next to each other - almost as if they all know One another and trying to take a group photo - Some points in the video the “Rioters“ put their hands on the cops back - No cop would let a suspect stand behind them - let alone touch them - what’s to stop them from attacking or going for the officers weapon with their back turned - doesn’t add up- and the kid at the end during the interview with the “blood” on his hand - Just looks like bad acting to me — Also why were they allowed to leave the building - and Walk down the stairs - You would think everyone in the hallway would have been arrested immediately
That’s my take on it anyway- I urge everyone to watch the video and make your own conclusion - note the link isn’t to wooz news -
I tried to find it on the official Channel But it looks like it was deleted or more likely taken down — can’t let something like this get out - right - —
My goal in analyzing any event like this is to address the things that can be verified either visually, by common-sense, or by generally-accepted scientific/medical facts. I'm not saying everything about this video is false or fishy (apart from the editor's motives of self-promotion and/or distracting from facts by making wildly uninformed claims based on nothing more than his need for attention and unicorn farts.)
Example: Another issue I forgot to address: the video-maker obviously knows little about the artistic concept of "perspective," as he illustrates when he mis-interprets the angle of trajectory/the shooter's aim. (And he should probably take a look at this, while he's at it. Moar fun with that here.) He's also not considering that he doesn't understand how wide-angle lenses work, and how that could be distorting the perspective. This is why I'm very interested to see the official ballistics and autopsy reports, the shooter sweeps across the group and targets others trying to decide who to shoot.
As far as the backpack, lots of people had backpacks that day (for provisions etc.) It would be no surprise for someone to have a pillow or sleeping-bag in there, because under those conditions one might have to sleep in a spot of opportunity. (That day was full of unknowns, going in. As a military veteran, she would be well-trained in the ways of outdoor survival skills.) Even so, the padding effect of landing on that wouldn't protect her head (unless it got pulled upward) and could have worsened the stress on her neck upon impact. I'm still on the fence about whether she hit her head on the handrail fixture or the floor (some videos show them moving her slightly to a flatter position.) That's something I'm still trying to put together, so far due to the crowded conditions it's difficult to find an unobstructed video that shows her full path from the window to the floor.
The behavior of the police and SWAT though, I don't need video commentary to tell me that is some very fishy stuff. Cops (especially in a high-profile position like that) tend to be arrogant and demanding when on-duty. Under the circumstances, almost every cop we saw that day was being abnormally calm and non-confrontational. I don't get that at all- if they were that concerned about the doors being breached, they didn't show any sign of it until the shot. None of the officers' behavior makes sense, and is often completely counter to normal tactics/safety practices/common sense- especially in failing to detain and question every person in that group. Normally, everyone in view of the shooting would be immediately against the wall or on the floor getting cuffed: those people were eyewitnesses to an officer-related shooting, I'm pretty sure that sending them away is not normal police procedure. That is a very serious breach of conduct and I have no explanation for that beyond dirty cops gonna dirty.
I have no explanation (beyond overconfidence) as to why the officers would just push through a group of un-frisked trespassers. That is either unbelievably careless, or utterly incompetent. As I said in another post, any accessories like ammo magazines/flash-bangs/pepper-spray not secured by some form of "retention holster"-style device (with a trick required to deploy) could easily be taken and used against them, were it merely held by a snap or velcro. (My SWAT-veteran associate tells me there are "retention" devices available for those accessories, but due to the "need for speed" these are not SOP except for possibly handcuffs. He also says it would be highly unusual for them to proceed into a group of "active protestors" in that manner without strong intelligence that they would be not likely to be armed or potentially violent. Additionally, he says SWAT officers place high confidence in their backup and are thus not very concerned with the possibility of having accessories snatched from their uniform.)
The video-editing is just messy, and difficult to tell if it is being chopped-up for time/pacing or if he's trying to hide/imply things. The audio is obviously even messier, I have not even started on that aspect (comparing ripped-from-video audio clips to see if certain "transients" line up, and to see if any fake/overdubbed elements are present in one video's audiotrack that are not in an otherwise similar one.)
tl;dr Defense attorneys love me, I'm their nightmare jury-duty candidate : )