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Hodor124 16 points ago +16 / -0

Cue all the idiot liberal TV hosts (such as Don Lemon) who are 1) comparing this to California (this is pure stupidity for a variety of reasons) and 2) acting as if Texas's government and people should've been prepared for an event that hasn't happened in over 100 years. And without any suggestions as to how they could have cost-effectively prepared for something like this without completely redoing their entire plumbing (and other) infrastructures.

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45willwinagain 20 points ago +20 / -0

these fucking jerkoffs will never admit that the push to rely on wind and solar is a massive component to this

couple that with a massive spike in nat gas prices once Resident Xiden killed all those jobs on the keystone pipeline and the demand spike generation was going to nearly bankrupt the power companies.

bottom line is just as houses in maine aren't built to handle california earthquakes, texas isn't built to survive artic temps

ice on power lines and blown pipes aren't something texas can "prepare for by being on the national power grid".

fucking retards clamoring to blame texas for this to try to blame shift away from their shoehorning of failed unreliable green power generation.

frozen windmills and solar panels blanketed in ice has nothing to do with not being on the national power grid, it's because texas has been infiltrated with california.

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CertainlyNotEdward 3 points ago +4 / -1

All very true, but we consider 100 and 500 year flood levels when building houses, so why the fuck isn't there insulation on the coolant pipes for the goddamn nuclear reactors?

Why the fuck didn't they retain the 4+ coal power plants they shutdown in the last 3 years on standby, just in case?

Why the fuck can they not even plan for overcast days with no wind?

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45willwinagain 3 points ago +3 / -0

here's a fun fact

the only reason we consider 100 and 500 year flood levels when building houses, is because governments all reclassed properties and flood zones after katrina to placate the insurance industry to fuck over everyone who lives on the waterfront.

"oh sorry mr and mrs jones your insurance costs have gone up substantially because you're in a 500 year flood plane"... "nothing we can do sorry"

they should have retained the coal fired plants for demand spikes but maintaining them and staffing them for "just in case" makes it difficult to justify keeping them on standby.

also coal gets expensive as you slowly kill off coal jobs.

at the end of the day there is no excuse, they should be ready for whatever.

but the flip side of that coin is everyone in texas should have a whole house genny and 500 gal propane buried in the ground out back.

if we want them to be ready for anything then so should we.

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CertainlyNotEdward 1 point ago +1 / -0

The "500 year" flood level really just means annually there's a 1/500 chance of a flood that reaches that level in that area. It's true that a chance that small isn't relevant to a single homeowner, but to an insurance company with tens or hundreds of thousands of customers that's a terrifyingly high risk.

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thekindlyman555 10 points ago +11 / -1

What do you mean you don't have your entire housing, piping, and electrical grid winterized in Texas!? You should be more prepared!

/s

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Examiner1776 3 points ago +4 / -1

What I don't get is why people aren't individually prepared? Aren't Texans used to garbage weather? Why does no one have a backup generator or some form of alternative heat and energy?

It's alarming how everyone is crying to the government to save them. Where is the "rugged individualism" that Texans are supposed to have?

Who knows, maybe it's there. The reality is that the news is probably just showing the same 100 Californians that just moved there and weren't prepared.

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tholins 8 points ago +8 / -0

It’s because the news is focusing on the lower income/welfare crowd that doesn’t keep food in the house. They do this every disaster we have. So you’re hearing from the people who are literally dependent on the government for their entire existence. They never plan ahead.

The real issue right now is that most people, regardless of income bracket, are out of power (or have been... only about 160k out right now). This comes with a lot of consequences; lost food from the fridge, inability to cook if you’ve got an electric range, pets dying, pipes bursting... things like that.

Some people do have generators. My parents, for example. But a whole house generator can cost well over $20k and most people can’t afford that. But I do agree that a portable generator in this state is a very, very good idea.

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Examiner1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

I think you're absolutely right about the news focusing on the lowest rung of society/welfare people. You're dead on and I always forget this. I'm sure the majority of people are fairly well prepared for disasters. And that's exactly right that the welfare crowd gets conditioned to expect the government to do literally EVERYTHING for them, so when something like this happens they naturally start whining about government failing them and demanding government to save them.

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Texasgal 3 points ago +3 / -0

Oh it's here. I live rural and for the most part everyone out here is doing fine. Gotta keep in mind, it's texas, we usually only get a couple of freezing days a year. Never in my life has it gotten down into single digits, and for multiple days. We can handle hurricanes, floods, fires but throw snow and ice at us and most people don't know what to do. Our infrastructure isnt built for artic temps at all! We wear flip flops and tank tops all year, and most of us don't own winter coats. That said, it's also been very difficult to find generators since covid or anything to prepare for this really. Give us a break, the sea turtles are freezing too!

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Examiner1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

I'm sure you guys will be fine. Texans are resilient good people. I spent a couple months in Texas last winter and the weather was great too lol.

I'm just curious, what were people around you talking about when it looked like it was going to get down to sub zero temperatures? Were people preparing for it? Learning what to do? Why are we seeing so many photos of flooded water? Did no one know to shut off the water mains in preparation?

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MagaBoardgamer 3 points ago +3 / -0

Urban populations are pretty much the same no matter what state you are in, I've found. The people who are prepared for everything are in the rural areas, breaking ice for their stock, cutting wood for their neighbors . . . basically busying themselves with things that are more important than posting pictures of icicles on the internet.

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Examiner1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

Lol so true. I think I forget how different urban people are from rural people. And in reality, that's where probably 90% of our differences (political and other) come from.

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PlanTruster 3 points ago +4 / -1

Rugged individualism isn’t a good answer to people depending on utilities. They spend money every month and expect the utilities to be be available.

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Examiner1776 1 point ago +1 / -0

Well hopefully this is a good lesson not to count on utilities to always be there. Civilization is nothing more than a thin veneer/illusion. We are always one big disaster from eating (or being eaten by) our neighbors.

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thekindlyman555 2 points ago +2 / -0

I mean, when was the last time Texas even went below zero let alone had a freeze this significant.

Preppers and people with generators are likely rare since they require a large capital investment for something that they're not likely to need except in the most extreme circumstances. I've never had a generator or alternate power source all my life either.

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Examiner1776 4 points ago +4 / -0

I've never run out of food before but I still stockpile food "just in case".

Texas is the land of natural disasters. There are half a dozen ways to lose power in Texas. Everyone with a car owns a generator that can power most necessities in your house. Inverters aren't that expensive.

Or spring for a generator, they aren't that expensive and at least you'd be able to keep your food from rotting someone runs over your power pole and you lose power to your house for a couple days.

Or at the very least buy a $40 Little Buddy propane heater and use that to keep yourself alive in a circumstance like this.

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CertainlyNotEdward 1 point ago +1 / -0

We consider 100 and 500 year flood levels when building houses, but not 50 year storms when building infrastructure that millions rely on?

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thekindlyman555 4 points ago +5 / -1

So, should Texas have a fleet of snow plows and salt trucks ready to go at a moment's notice, as well as trained drivers and support staff to run them, in the event that it snows once every 50 years?

I come from Ontario and we spend MILLIONS of dollars a year on snow removal and ice melting infrastructure, because we need it. But why should Texas invest in this?

You might have a better argument for things like the electric grid, but even that is a substantial cost for something that is one in a million of happening.

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CertainlyNotEdward 6 points ago +6 / -0

Nope! But they should sure as fuck have friends on speed dial in northern states for exactly that. If every other state with snow sent one truck from each of their cities' fleets this would be no big deal at all, and they could have done this a week ago with the first dusting of snow.

This is a shit response from the RINO Texas government and a shit response from the federal government. Trump wouldn't be sitting on his ass playing Mario Kart with his granddaughter.

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Scumcunt 6 points ago +7 / -1

It snowed just is much in Texas in 2011, and 1993, and 1989.

It’s completely reasonable to point out that Texas politicians, in effort to curry favor with the energy oligarchs (many Dems or crypto Dems) did not support regulatory efforts to build sound infrastructure and housing.

This is truly 3rd world shit, and if the Republican Party (and the Dems, but Texas has been one-Party for a quarter century) had been responsible representatives of the people, this wouldn’t have been near as bad.

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memechallenger33 3 points ago +4 / -1

Sadly, there was a similar situation in 2011, for all the same reasons. An investigation was done to see what the problems were.... then nothing was done about it. So, truly, there are some people who work for the energy companies in TX who are either really, really dumb, or really, really lazy.

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Examiner1776 2 points ago +2 / -0

Yea all of the people gloating about this never happening in CA are idiots. Your entire state ANNUALLY finds itself on fire and no one does anything to prepare for it. Also they are underprepared for an earthquake that's long overdue.