And the Triumvirate probably told him his "rantings" about people taking Liberty away were a "conspiracy theory," right up to the point where they had him beheaded.
Less is more. That is the line and reasonable people can reach that line. The issue is we passed that line 100 years ago and is has been a struggle since.
There is so much to be learned by reading his essays and letters. I read his oratories and hear them in Trump's voice sometimes, the situations and personalities he's dealing with are so alike.
Wow, we should be studying the classics. Just think about that first sentence.
"for the liberty to enslave us is always present under that very liberty."
China is proving that right now
Alinsky and the democrats in their hate for us figured that out too. In order for a few to gain power, they ALL were taught hate us and sneer at our ideals, they were taught make them live up to their "ideals".
And now, because we are human and honest we admit we do not always live up to our ideals - so out of fear of judgement we capitulate.
They do not care a whit that they can't live up to their own, if they have any.
John Adams, said:
Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.
Does that mean we must give up our high ideals of Justice and Liberty for all, along with individual self determination? NO we must re-establish them where they have been eclipsed, and teach renewed dedication to them where they still light the way - however dimly.
So start running for seats on the local school board - that is where Sarah Palin started.
We really should be studying the classics. I've done self study and I've learned way more from the classics than most modern "science" bullshit. These guys from the classic periods were very smart.
“From the fact that people are very different, it follows that, if we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in their actual position, and that the only way to place them in an equal position would be to treat them differently. Equality before the law and material equality are therefore not only different but are in conflict with each other, and we can achieve either one or the other, but not both at the same time”
― Friedrich August von Hayek, The Constitution Of Liberty
Remember when a long time ago America was allowed to have statues honoring other great Americans? Oh wait, that was before last summer and BLM and Antifa and the Dems destroyed them all.
Agreed. Now combine smarts and power together and you have dominance. Cicero was not wrong in this quote but I agree if you truly study him, he wasn't entirely right in all regards and he paid the price for it. But he's still smarter than 99.99% of people living today.
Okay Stalin, I'll remember that. Except... he died and so did his nation... Could be a little more to it?
I appreciate your might is right angle but there's more to success than might alone. The Christians for example are a historic example of people who gained significant influence without actually being a part of votes, words or law. Christians live on today where as Rome is dead for example. You're mostly right but not entirely.
I agree with this. Thought always precedes action. To reduce the whole world into power dynamics is to play the Marxist game. Power is a huge factor, but without ideas, good or bad, that power doesn't last very long.
Your opinion or my opinion is irrelevant, reality doesn’t care, you ignore the mechanisms of civilization at your own peril.
Mamby pamby land < reality
Christians were massacred for centuries until they gained enough political and military power to have a influence in first the senate and then on the emperor himself ...
The stupid story about Constantine converting after a revelation... it’s just ancient world political propaganda by the Roman empire’s CNN... he converted because it was a smart political move and he needed the now militarily powerful Christian nations to expand the Roman Empire.
Stalin lived and died in power for most of his life ... I think he known more about political power than a lawyer killed in a política purge ... one ruled and the other not ... I know it sucks ... but whining at reality never altered history.
History is filled with forgotten self righteous saints that didn’t accomplished anything ... perhaps they could’ve stopped the tyrants if they knew how the game of power is actually played
Ask any conquered nation if being honorable saved them from slavery or genocide?
Weird. That's exactly what Stalin used to say about the kulaks.
There's a massive difference between being a doormat, and surrendering morality because the end justifies the means in your tiny mind. Your arguments would be better if you didn't engage in reductio ad absurdem to make them.
Stalin said that the kulaks need guns and political power to stop him?
That might not be true
There’s a huge difference between whatever two self serving extremes you choose to trap yourself ... because as we all know life presents itself with clear cut moral and ethical decisions
My argument is not to abandon morality you silly goose ... is that politics (and only politics) doesn’t have an arbiter ... there’s no point in playing by the rules if you don’t control or have a reasonable expectation that the rules will be applied consistently
Politics attracts people that want money and power.
Religion does the same. I say follow these rules and will have you can enter heaven. How at least 2 major religions were started by a sci-fi writer and a conman. How the Catholic Church has had evil men in its ranks since its start. In other words take the reins of your life, stop depending on some "being" or infallible men to make things right
And the Triumvirate probably told him his "rantings" about people taking Liberty away were a "conspiracy theory," right up to the point where they had him beheaded.
he was such a racist bigot by the end, he had it coming
Science-deniers deserve what they get.
He probably didn't even believe in the 57 genders.
Octavian and the corrupt old-boy network supporting him were terrified of true leaders that were loved by the people. Hm. Sounds familiar.
it also tells us we will never have peace in politics, because there will never be a defining line on issues
what DOES need to happen is media and corporations need to be stopped from amplifying the voices of the few
these cocksuckers are seditious as fuck
I am Libertarian. Libertarianism is good to fight the causes of problems, but bad at fighting symptoms.
The symptoms have to be fixed, for that, the news + entertainment media and Big Tech cartel has to be destroyed.
And without question - government education and academia have to be abolished entirely.
Never thought of it that way but Damn, you nailed it
Less is more. That is the line and reasonable people can reach that line. The issue is we passed that line 100 years ago and is has been a struggle since.
Uhhh, it's Cicero. Try 99.99999%.
There is so much to be learned by reading his essays and letters. I read his oratories and hear them in Trump's voice sometimes, the situations and personalities he's dealing with are so alike.
Human nature hasn't changed in thousands of years. Still the same problems.
It never will until we are in our true homeland.
Wow, we should be studying the classics. Just think about that first sentence.
"for the liberty to enslave us is always present under that very liberty."
China is proving that right now Alinsky and the democrats in their hate for us figured that out too. In order for a few to gain power, they ALL were taught hate us and sneer at our ideals, they were taught make them live up to their "ideals".
And now, because we are human and honest we admit we do not always live up to our ideals - so out of fear of judgement we capitulate.
They do not care a whit that they can't live up to their own, if they have any.
John Adams, said:
Does that mean we must give up our high ideals of Justice and Liberty for all, along with individual self determination? NO we must re-establish them where they have been eclipsed, and teach renewed dedication to them where they still light the way - however dimly.
So start running for seats on the local school board - that is where Sarah Palin started.
We really should be studying the classics. I've done self study and I've learned way more from the classics than most modern "science" bullshit. These guys from the classic periods were very smart.
“From the fact that people are very different, it follows that, if we treat them equally, the result must be inequality in their actual position, and that the only way to place them in an equal position would be to treat them differently. Equality before the law and material equality are therefore not only different but are in conflict with each other, and we can achieve either one or the other, but not both at the same time” ― Friedrich August von Hayek, The Constitution Of Liberty
But, isn't history racist?
The concept of "Liberty is established by god" fixes this. God already provides us with these freedoms.
All the federal government is good for is maintaining the constitution and they have faild...
Rome had a constitution?
Remember when a long time ago America was allowed to have statues honoring other great Americans? Oh wait, that was before last summer and BLM and Antifa and the Dems destroyed them all.
Cicero was killed by a stronger soldier and although his writings live ... his effect on the politics of his time was null
If you give me a choice between power and smarts ... power always wins ... 9/10
Smart might get you a statue but power makes the world turn
Agreed. Now combine smarts and power together and you have dominance. Cicero was not wrong in this quote but I agree if you truly study him, he wasn't entirely right in all regards and he paid the price for it. But he's still smarter than 99.99% of people living today.
That’s just a long way of saying that I’m right ... don’t be fooled about being right or speaking pretty words
If you learn nothing else from the history you’re living, learn this:
The only thing it matters is who counts the votes, who interprets the words, who enforced the law ... everything else is dead letter
Okay Stalin, I'll remember that. Except... he died and so did his nation... Could be a little more to it?
I appreciate your might is right angle but there's more to success than might alone. The Christians for example are a historic example of people who gained significant influence without actually being a part of votes, words or law. Christians live on today where as Rome is dead for example. You're mostly right but not entirely.
I agree with this. Thought always precedes action. To reduce the whole world into power dynamics is to play the Marxist game. Power is a huge factor, but without ideas, good or bad, that power doesn't last very long.
Your opinion or my opinion is irrelevant, reality doesn’t care, you ignore the mechanisms of civilization at your own peril.
Mamby pamby land < reality
Christians were massacred for centuries until they gained enough political and military power to have a influence in first the senate and then on the emperor himself ...
The stupid story about Constantine converting after a revelation... it’s just ancient world political propaganda by the Roman empire’s CNN... he converted because it was a smart political move and he needed the now militarily powerful Christian nations to expand the Roman Empire.
Stalin lived and died in power for most of his life ... I think he known more about political power than a lawyer killed in a política purge ... one ruled and the other not ... I know it sucks ... but whining at reality never altered history.
This is a beautiful illustration of the mindset of a tyrant.
History is filled with forgotten self righteous saints that didn’t accomplished anything ... perhaps they could’ve stopped the tyrants if they knew how the game of power is actually played
Ask any conquered nation if being honorable saved them from slavery or genocide?
Weird. That's exactly what Stalin used to say about the kulaks.
There's a massive difference between being a doormat, and surrendering morality because the end justifies the means in your tiny mind. Your arguments would be better if you didn't engage in reductio ad absurdem to make them.
Stalin said that the kulaks need guns and political power to stop him?
That might not be true
There’s a huge difference between whatever two self serving extremes you choose to trap yourself ... because as we all know life presents itself with clear cut moral and ethical decisions
My argument is not to abandon morality you silly goose ... is that politics (and only politics) doesn’t have an arbiter ... there’s no point in playing by the rules if you don’t control or have a reasonable expectation that the rules will be applied consistently
Tell me ... do you feel in control?
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Except Cicero lived before Jesus was born...
Except the tenets from God never changed and the Bible was before him. so.. ?
Religion always ties into Politics. Just another avenue to control the masses.
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Politics attracts people that want money and power. Religion does the same. I say follow these rules and will have you can enter heaven. How at least 2 major religions were started by a sci-fi writer and a conman. How the Catholic Church has had evil men in its ranks since its start. In other words take the reins of your life, stop depending on some "being" or infallible men to make things right
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